danikwood75 Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 I bought my 2007 Edge SEL at the begining of Febuary. I love driving it, however, I noticed that when I turn left while excellerating, it seems like it looses power, or the transmission slips. I took it back to the dealership and they said it was the traction control. I am not sure if I believe that is what it is, and I wanted to know if anyone else is expierencing this. Other than that I love the power, the feel of driving, and everything else about the vehicle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
us11csalyer Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 I dont lose traction but you can find out by turning it off. I think the button on the center dash turns it off. I have 07 SEL PLUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danikwood75 Posted March 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 It is wierd, this only happens when I turn left, the car jerks forward and then no power eventhough I am pressing the excellerator...I will try turning off the traction control tomorrow. I recreated this problem with the mechanic, who says he used to work at Ford, and it is the traction control...I don't know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonedge+ Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I had an incident once where the traction control kicked in twice on the way home. Dry pavement, normal acceleration and nothing out of the ordinary. The traction control light came on, you could hear it engage and it lost power. Hasn't happened again since. Strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordGuru Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I bought my 2007 Edge SEL at the begining of Febuary. I love driving it, however, I noticed that when I turn left while excellerating, it seems like it looses power, or the transmission slips. I took it back to the dealership and they said it was the traction control. I am not sure if I believe that is what it is, and I wanted to know if anyone else is expierencing this. Other than that I love the power, the feel of driving, and everything else about the vehicle! Ā you sure you're not experiencing a downshift? but then again, you will have an instantaneous sensation of power loss during Traction Control activations. thats the purpose of the system. if its happening during left turns only and the depth of the curve isn't that great, you could also be having issues with your Steering Angle Sensor (commonly called a yaw sensor). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 you sure you're not experiencing a downshift? but then again, you will have an instantaneous sensation of power loss during Traction Control activations. thats the purpose of the system. if its happening during left turns only and the depth of the curve isn't that great, you could also be having issues with your Steering Angle Sensor (commonly called a yaw sensor). Ā Steering wheel angle sensor and yaw sensor are two totally different parts with totally different functions. However if either one of them has a problem, it could explain the issue. Does the traction control light in the cluster come on while the incident is occurring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordGuru Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Steering wheel angle sensor and yaw sensor are two totally different parts with totally different functions. However if either one of them has a problem, it could explain the issue. Does the traction control light in the cluster come on while the incident is occurring? Ā Ā i thought that on the edge they were one in the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 i thought that on the edge they were one in the same? Ā They measure different things - how could they be the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordGuru Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 They measure different things - how could they be the same? Ā Ā yaw is the measurement of rotation on a central axis. steering angle is the same thing. the degree of rotation of the wheel in relation to vehicle at static. Ā i understand what you guys are saying. but IIRC the edge uses a combo sensor pack at the base of the column Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpio Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 yaw is the measurement of rotation on a central axis. steering angle is the same thing. the degree of rotation of the wheel in relation to vehicle at static. Ā Yaw is the actual degree of rotation, whereas steering angle is the commanded value, so therein lies the difference. Or as it's used in my marine world. Hey, it's a slow day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 yaw is the measurement of rotation on a central axis. steering angle is the same thing. the degree of rotation of the wheel in relation to vehicle at static. Ā i understand what you guys are saying. but IIRC the edge uses a combo sensor pack at the base of the column Ā I don't know whether it's one part or two but it has to be 2 different sensors. I thought the yaw sensor was typically in the center of the vehicle while the steering angle is just a sensor on the steering column and measures steering angle mechanically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordGuru Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 it could be i'm having a bad day and not thinking clearly. instead of opening my mouth before i'm sure i'm just gonna jump in the WSM and get it verbatim, lol....been a rough week already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 it could be i'm having a bad day and not thinking clearly. instead of opening my mouth before i'm sure i'm just gonna jump in the WSM and get it verbatim, lol....been a rough week already Ā Think of it this way. You could be sitting still but still turning the steering wheel back and forth thereby changing the steering angle but the yaw is not changing. Ā Conversely - you could be in an oversteer situation where the yaw sensor says the rear end is coming around and the steering angle could start out in the same direction of the turn but change quickly to the opposite direction as the driver starts to correct. Ā They're 2 totally different measurements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordGuru Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Think of it this way. You could be sitting still but still turning the steering wheel back and forth thereby changing the steering angle but the yaw is not changing. Ā Conversely - you could be in an oversteer situation where the yaw sensor says the rear end is coming around and the steering angle could start out in the same direction of the turn but change quickly to the opposite direction as the driver starts to correct. Ā They're 2 totally different measurements. Ā Ā word. Ā yeah i've been having one of those brain fart days all day to day...i had to read the WSM about 8 different times before everything sank in...i should have kept my happy butt at home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Been out for a week, but I think you're confusion is because Ford integrated the yaw sensor into the RCM module, which also has the accelerometers for the airbag. those used to be separate sensors but are now integrated into one module, located in the middle of the vehicle. The steering wheel angle sensor is still a unique part installed on the column. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Denning Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Danikwood75 did you ever get your problem resolved? I have a 2007 Lincoln MKX and it is having the same problem, except that it is when I turn right. Loss of power and a sudden jerk. The OBDII scanner that I use says that I have a B1278 error, Steering wheel angle sensor 1 & 2. I have it at a dealer right now to get it looked at and I think that it is the steering angle sensor, but I am just wondering what you did to get yours fixed. Ā Thanks Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Denning Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Danikwood75 did you ever get your problem resolved? I have a 2007 Lincoln MKX and it is having the same problem, except that it is when I turn right. Loss of power and a sudden jerk. The OBDII scanner that I use says that I have a B1278 error, Steering wheel angle sensor 1 & 2. I have it at a dealer right now to get it looked at and I think that it is the steering angle sensor, but I am just wondering what you did to get yours fixed. Ā Thanks Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnfocusedEdge Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Wondering on results. I'm having the same issues with an 07 edge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnfocusedEdge Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 I just replaced my steering angle position sensor. I'll be doing a right up later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnfocusedEdge Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Okay did the write up. Here you guys go. http://www.fordedgeforum.com/index.php?/topic/11434-steering-angle-position-sensor-replacement-instructions/page__pid__86949#entry86949 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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