Sweet and Simple

[gehlsurf]

So yeah, looked all over the site, couldn't find where anyone has replaced the factory sub with an aftermarket sub and talked about results...... good or bad. I found alot of arguing, haha, but no results of it being done, and correctly at that. To save the trouble, I don't want a JL Stealth box, and I get those at cost, so don't even try to talk me into it, please. And I have some old Zapco and A/D/S amps that at 400 watts would knock out today's "2000" watt systems, so again, please, save me the agony. I would just like this system to be simple, if it isn't feasible, I understand, just haven't ripped into it yet and would like to see if I can save myself the trouble. I understand totally the draw to building big car steros, but I'm burnt out on custom stuff in the car arena (to me a car's sound isn't custom until you're in the 5th order home made crossover genre). So I'm just trying to go back to simple. Thanks for any replies, sorry if I sounded like a jerk, kinda amped up/frustrated I think from reading some past posts, haha.

[Eatinitup]

So yeah, looked all over the site, couldn't find where anyone has replaced the factory sub with an aftermarket sub and talked about results...... good or bad. I found alot of arguing, haha, but no results of it being done, and correctly at that. To save the trouble, I don't want a JL Stealth box, and I get those at cost, so don't even try to talk me into it, please. And I have some old Zapco and A/D/S amps that at 400 watts would knock out today's "2000" watt systems, so again, please, save me the agony. I would just like this system to be simple, if it isn't feasible, I understand, just haven't ripped into it yet and would like to see if I can save myself the trouble. I understand totally the draw to building big car steros, but I'm burnt out on custom stuff in the car arena (to me a car's sound isn't custom until you're in the 5th order home made crossover genre). So I'm just trying to go back to simple. Thanks for any replies, sorry if I sounded like a jerk, kinda amped up/frustrated I think from reading some past posts, haha.

 

 

Sounds like you work in an area that has a ton of experience with Car Audio and it sounds like you know what you are doing.. Be innovative and creative.. Nobody here talks about doing it and hasn't posted pictures of it, so do it yourself and post pictures to us of what it looks like and how it sounds!

 

I don't have the stock sub setup in my Edge but I do have a custom made box for my JL Audio 12 W7 accompanied with my 1000W Mono JL AMP that I am sure would take out those Zapco 400 watters any day!!

[gehlsurf]

Haha, well, JL has my respect, but just mainstream stuff, look it up sometime, these amps (not the Zapcos, but the A/D/S power plates) are actually balanced, like commercial set ups are. But they are a fuck load of money, and I got them as a hand me down from a buddy (they were in a Lambo to give you an idea), but on my own, I wouldn't buy them, I'd stick to companies like JL, Alpine, etc. Actually, I once owned a pair of JL 12w3 DVC's (it was like 2001, haha), pushed by a Kenwood amp that I got cheap as an Open Box item for cheap at a Bestbuy, and have always like Kenwood for budget. The box said it was 1 ohm stable pushing 1K watts, so I paralled all voice coils, surer than shit it actually pushed them hard as all hell! My buddy's made fun of me, but it was WAY louder and would push your hair and cigarette smoke like crazy (ghetto SPL test, haha). So since then, I've always been interested in the mainstream amps, because "you never know", there are cars that are sleepers, and there are stereo systems that are sleepers, haha!!

 

On another note: I fuckin know right!?!?!?!? I like this site, but sometimes these guys are just not into answering stuff, just arguing it. haha, so I'm gonna get some capacitors and block off the bass at the stock speakers, then replace the sub and post what I find, hell, it's a lil 8", what do I have to lose? Not much for R and D, cause I'll keep the capacitors, and if need be put another system in, and all I waisted was like $60. Fuck it, I'm doin it, haha, thanks for the push!!! Oh, and on another note, I've noticed that the stock sub seems to be DVC, ssssssoooooo, maybe instead of 1 DVC sub, maybe 2? The stock box, and another tuned another way? Now that's intuition and ingenious!! .......in theory..... haha, we'll see, I'll for sure let ya know!! Thanks again!

[Eatinitup]

Haha, well, JL has my respect, but just mainstream stuff, look it up sometime, these amps (not the Zapcos, but the A/D/S power plates) are actually balanced, like commercial set ups are. But they are a fuck load of money, and I got them as a hand me down from a buddy (they were in a Lambo to give you an idea), but on my own, I wouldn't buy them, I'd stick to companies like JL, Alpine, etc. Actually, I once owned a pair of JL 12w3 DVC's (it was like 2001, haha), pushed by a Kenwood amp that I got cheap as an Open Box item for cheap at a Bestbuy, and have always like Kenwood for budget. The box said it was 1 ohm stable pushing 1K watts, so I paralled all voice coils, surer than shit it actually pushed them hard as all hell! My buddy's made fun of me, but it was WAY louder and would push your hair and cigarette smoke like crazy (ghetto SPL test, haha). So since then, I've always been interested in the mainstream amps, because "you never know", there are cars that are sleepers, and there are stereo systems that are sleepers, haha!!

 

On another note: I fuckin know right!?!?!?!? I like this site, but sometimes these guys are just not into answering stuff, just arguing it. haha, so I'm gonna get some capacitors and block off the bass at the stock speakers, then replace the sub and post what I find, hell, it's a lil 8", what do I have to lose? Not much for R and D, cause I'll keep the capacitors, and if need be put another system in, and all I waisted was like $60. Fuck it, I'm doin it, haha, thanks for the push!!! Oh, and on another note, I've noticed that the stock sub seems to be DVC, ssssssoooooo, maybe instead of 1 DVC sub, maybe 2? The stock box, and another tuned another way? Now that's intuition and ingenious!! .......in theory..... haha, we'll see, I'll for sure let ya know!! Thanks again!

 

 

You have the right envision, just gotta apply it. The stock sub set up looks so good but I honestly couldn't get the UMPH out of it that I was looking for in a system. If I could of run a stealth box with a JL 12 w6v2 then hell ya, I would of all day long.

 

As for the guys on this site, they are all really good guys.. You just gotta warm up to them and hope they dont give you a negative number for something you say. Akirby, Dingo, Cal3thousand, loosecannon, and a few others are really really helpful. They will help you a lot once they open up to you!