HDRadioFarce Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 I got the HD Radio option in my new vehicle, and I absolutely hate it! There are numerious problems like constant flipping from HD to analog, skipping, digital artifacting, bland programming, and lack of HD Radio stations. Ford has been pleading with broadcasters to install more HD Radio, but the trend is that many AM HD and FM HD Radio stations are turning off their signals. Only about 15% of broadcasters have installed the equipment. I complained to my dealership, but got nowhere with them! And, I paid good money for this? I found a link to a couple of law firms that are taking complaints about HD Radio: http://representingpeople.com/hdradio/index.html What's so maddening is that Ford is an investor in HD Radio, and carmakers have know about the problems with HD, but keep installng it in their vehicles. I feel sorry for the dealerships having to deal with all the angry customers. Also, both BMW and Volvo has outstanding Technical Service Bulletins against HD Radio. B652505TroubleshootingGuide.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 ?? How is this a Ford issue? They are simply providing the option to use HD radio if it's in your area. In the area where I live, we have numerous HD station options which are a nice feature. (Though I still prefer Sirius) Some flip depending on signal strength but that's the technology being new and again, not a Ford issue. Seriously, you joined the forum to complain about HDRadio? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDRadioFarce Posted January 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 ?? How is this a Ford issue? They are simply providing the option to use HD radio if it's in your area. In the area where I live, we have numerous HD station options which are a nice feature. (Though I still prefer Sirius) Some flip depending on signal strength but that's the technology being new and again, not a Ford issue. Seriously, you joined the forum to complain about HDRadio? Wow. This IS partly a Ford issue, because they have known all along about the problems with HD Radio, and should not be installing it at consumers' expense. This situation is going to catch up to the automakers, one way or another, eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingo Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 That is a link to one attorney. It's the one that I think the dude works for. A simple google search can show you a number of forums that a user from "Maryland" has gone into, made an account, and posted the same misleading info and links to that attorney. His username with .com after it is a blog pointing people to that same attorney. I also want to point out that the service bulletins that that dude refers to and the attorney's site refer to are telling dealerships how to troubleshoot cars that are having reception issues. Let's say we all join a class-action suit over HD radio. It'll settle out of court, and we'll all get our checks for 7 cents or something ridiculous. The one that'll profit is the attorney handling the suit, including insane fees and expenses. I don't use my vanity mirrors. Let's all sue Ford for making us pay for them. Get real. *eyeroll* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDRadioFarce Posted January 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) That is a link to one attorney. It's the one that I think the dude works for. A simple google search can show you a number of forums that a user from "Maryland" has gone into, made an account, and posted the same misleading info and links to that attorney. His username with .com after it is a blog pointing people to that same attorney. I also want to point out that the service bulletins that that dude refers to and the attorney's site refer to are telling dealerships how to troubleshoot cars that are having reception issues. Let's say we all join a class-action suit over HD radio. It'll settle out of court, and we'll all get our checks for 7 cents or something ridiculous. The one that'll profit is the attorney handling the suit, including insane fees and expenses. I don't use my vanity mirrors. Let's all sue Ford for making us pay for them. Get real. *eyeroll* Keefe Bartels uses their clerk to post links in forums under the username "Clerk". I am just helping Mr. Keefe with the investigation, as a group of us are feeding them information. There is another law firm working in concert with Keefe, who specializes in litigation: http://www.galexwolf.com/sub/Galex-Wolf-HD-Radio.jsp Damages in New Jersey are tripled. And yes, I do run an extensive HD Radio blog, which has been highly sucessful. There is nothing misleading about these links, as they refer directly to the law firms investigating iNiquity and the automakers. Expect non-HD broadcasters to file class-actions, too. Once this goes to litigation, all parties involed will be locked in for the durtation, which can take many years, and cost a fortune. You are totally clueless about the investigations, as you are not part of them. Belittle them all you want, but everyone is going to be in for a rude awakening. As soon as I posted this information, I knew there would be personal attacks. Edited January 8, 2012 by HDRadioFarce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingo Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Keefe Bartels uses their clerk to post links in forums under the username "Clerk". I am just helping Mr. Keefe with the investigation, as a group of us are feeding them information. There is another law firm working in concert with Keefe, who specializes in litigation: http://www.galexwolf.com/sub/Galex-Wolf-HD-Radio.jsp Damages in New Jersey are tripled. And yes, I do run an extensive HD Radio blog, which has been highly sucessful. There is nothing misleading about these links, as they refer directly to the law firms investigating iNiquity and the automakers. Expect non-HD broadcasters to file class-actions, too. Once this goes to litigation, all parties involed will be locked in for the durtation, which can take many years, and cost a fortune. You are totally clueless about the investigations, as you are not part of them. Belittle them all you want, but everyone is going to be in for a rude awakening. As soon as I posted this information, I knew there would be personal attacks. It's not a personal attack. What that I posted was personal OR an attack? I called it how it is, and you verified it. The point that I was making is that it's not an earth-shattering topic. I personally have never had a problem with HD radio, but even if it disappeared tomorrow, there's still FM, AM, Sirius, CD, and USB that supports hard drives, ipods, etc. There's even an auxiliary input that you can plug anything into that you'd like. I'm just tired of people trying to find loopholes to sue others. If you don't like the HD radio, turn it off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDRadioFarce Posted January 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 It's not a personal attack. What that I posted was personal OR an attack? I called it how it is, and you verified it. The point that I was making is that it's not an earth-shattering topic. I personally have never had a problem with HD radio, but even if it disappeared tomorrow, there's still FM, AM, Sirius, CD, and USB that supports hard drives, ipods, etc. There's even an auxiliary input that you can plug anything into that you'd like. I'm just tired of people trying to find loopholes to sue others. If you don't like the HD radio, turn it off. There are no loopholes - it is a very legitimate investigation. Keefe has gotten a significant number of complaints. BMW was charging from $350 - $500 for optional HD Radio while having an outstanding TSB against HD Radio. Volvo includes stand-alone HD Radio as standard, as it is included in the cost of their vehicles, while having outstanding HD Radio TSBs, too. Interesting that iBiquity is hiding their HD Radio chipsets in expensive navigation systems, now. I don't know of any automakers outside of BMW and Volvo that offers stand-alone HD radios, including Ford who is an investor in iNiquity. i can't wait for this to hit the Press, as it will be national news. This is a clear case auto fraud that falls under the Federal Court system. Let's hope that Bob Struble's day is coming, and it will be interesting to see all of the names on the iBiquity HD Radio payroll. As in Usenet, it appears that iBiquity and their minions stand guard over HD Radio forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 This is borderline ambulance chasing IMO. I'll leave what you posted but you're on a short leash from here on out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDRadioFarce Posted January 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 This is borderline ambulance chasing IMO. I'll leave what you posted but you're on a short leash from here on out. So, if an automaker charged from $350 - $500 for an option that did not work as claimed, then their dealerships ignored complaints from their customers that would qualify as ambulance chasing? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingo Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 I didn't pay Ford a penny extra for HD radio. Nobody else has, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDRadioFarce Posted January 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 I didn't pay Ford a penny extra for HD radio. Nobody else has, either. If HD came as optional equipment, then it certainly cost you. I believe even with Sync, and the optional nav system, HD Radio is still an option. If it was included as standard in navigation systems, it still costs you. There are costs to install it, plus iNiquity's royalty fees. All of these costs are hidden in the final price of these vehicles. This is why none of the automakers are offering stand-alone HD radios, including Ford. BMW and Volvo tried it, and all it got them were Technical Service Bulletins, and angry customers that demanded replacement radios. When HD Radio is burried with other devices, such as nav systems, dealers are far less likely to replace the whole unit, due to HD Radio's flaws, and makes it easier to blow off their customers. What is good news is that MSN Direct just shut down their traffic services, as they had partnered with Clear Channel HD Radio back in 2007. Also, Garmin just layed off 1,300 people from their traffic services, and they just started using HD Radio as the delivery platform. These nav systems are being killed by such smartphone apps as Google Maps and Aha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingo Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 No it's not an option. It's included. This takes me back to the vanity mirror comment. You really need a hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDRadioFarce Posted January 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 No it's not an option. It's included. This takes me back to the vanity mirror comment. You really need a hobby. So, I guess this means you won't be contacting Keefe Bartels? LMAO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 The HD Radio in my daughter's Focus seems to work just as well as FM. Of course the quality depends on the broadcasters, just like HDTV in the early days (and yes, I understand that HD radio is not High Definition). Take your conspiracy theories elsewhere. I'll leave the info here but I'm locking the thread. Don't open any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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