Lugnut Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Hi, I am considering getting a '12 Sport and have been playing around with configurations. I am wondering if most buyers get the Navigation option? It seems all Edge Sports at my local dealers do have it. Personally, I'm not crazy about Nav as an installed option, just because it's become so ubiquitous in mobile devices and is relatively expensive (initial cost as well as updates). Also, is the Driver Entry package pretty standard on these? Do most of you have it? I appreciate any help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Hi, I am considering getting a '12 Sport and have been playing around with configurations. I am wondering if most buyers get the Navigation option? It seems all Edge Sports at my local dealers do have it. Personally, I'm not crazy about Nav as an installed option, just because it's become so ubiquitous in mobile devices and is relatively expensive (initial cost as well as updates). Also, is the Driver Entry package pretty standard on these? Do most of you have it? I appreciate any help! Once you get MFT nav is only a $800 option which is a lot cheaper than it used to be. There are advantages to having it built-in and integrated with the voice commands and large screen. The downside is map updates are expensive ($200) and MFT has been problematic although that should be fixed within the next month or two. It really comes down to convenience (integrated, larger screen, voice commands, etc.) versus smaller, cheaper and more flexible but not integrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurphieNB Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Hi, I am considering getting a '12 Sport and have been playing around with configurations. I am wondering if most buyers get the Navigation option? It seems all Edge Sports at my local dealers do have it. Personally, I'm not crazy about Nav as an installed option, just because it's become so ubiquitous in mobile devices and is relatively expensive (initial cost as well as updates). Also, is the Driver Entry package pretty standard on these? Do most of you have it? I appreciate any help! I just recently bought an Edge Limited, and specifically sourced out one that did not have the navigation system. I'm with you that they're readily available in mobile devices, I also have a fairly recent stand-alone GPS unit, and besides that, I very seldom need one. Before buying, the one thing that scared me the most was MFT, but I've come to the conclusion (my opinion only) that most of the problems that people have with MFT seem to be targeted toward the nav system. I'm not saying that otherwise MFT is without issues, but they seem to be relatively minor - and hopefully will be corrected in the Spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlepse Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 I would agree with Akirby. Originally I was going to pass on the nav because of the same issues but the two options I had were either not cost effective or no simple enough for the wife. I was going to run a car computer and output to the MFT but the module alone was over 400 bucks. Also the wife tends to make a lot of wrong turns and needs a GPS to be ready right away. So portable devices get to be difficult in this respect unless you always leave them connected. But with that said our unit has a horrible lag. Just this morning I was comparing it to a TomTom unit and it is always 50 feet behind your actual position. It makes it difficult to know which turn is the one you want in a busy interchange. Currently the dealer is replacing the APIM; I doubt this will help this issue since I think it is an antenna issue but I a hoping it gets sorted soon. If they can get this right I would say the integration of the system is worth the added cost. Also it should be noted many other people are not seeing the same issue I am and if you get a vehicle with nav make sure you test it first. I never actually tested our vehicles nav except on delivery and sitting in the parking lot you don't see the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpio Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Stock system integration (and related warranty) was my reason for opting for the factory setup as well. With that said, it's not something I use often, but on the occasions I have employed it, it worked as well as any others I've tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJG Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Mine has NAV also. I probably will use it rarely except for trips. My salesman says you still get turn by turn directions without NAV on my model. He thinks that's all he would need for around town use, and his wife understands how to use that. I like to have more info than that on on a trip. I do have to say my portable Garmin works very well, and I can up date it so easily. Before every trip, I at least up date the points of interest. Besides the other advantages you folks mention for a built in unit, I assume the screen is shaded better than my portable unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwolson Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Besides added convenience of a built in Nav system and it's always with you less worry about thieves breaking in and stealing your portable GPS. They won't see rings on the windhield nor dash mounts for a GPS. BTW, some trips I do run both the MFT Nav system and a Garmin Vocie activated GPS. The downside, sometimes when Samanatha (MFT states, say a command, the Garmin chimes in asking for a command. Yes, very entertaining on a long, boring trip. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbf2530 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) Hi, I am considering getting a '12 Sport and have been playing around with configurations. I am wondering if most buyers get the Navigation option? It seems all Edge Sports at my local dealers do have it. Personally, I'm not crazy about Nav as an installed option, just because it's become so ubiquitous in mobile devices and is relatively expensive (initial cost as well as updates). Also, is the Driver Entry package pretty standard on these? Do most of you have it? I appreciate any help! Hi Lugnut. :D Everyone above has given excellent advice and reasons to purchase/not purchase the factory NAV unit. I would only add this: Don't worry about what other people order or don't order. Get what you want. That goes for the Navigation system, the Drivers Entry Package, wheel styles/sizes, etc. etc.. And don't worry about resale value later. You rarely if ever get back what you paid for any option, so it still winds up a net loss. In the end, you are the one who will need to drive it and make the payments, so buy what you want. And if you can't find what you want in your local Dealers inventory, ask them to locate it at another Dealership or factory order it for you (although I believe 2012 orders are closed out so you may need to order a 2013, but check with your Dealer for the latest information). In fact, for my own very good reasons, I always factory order my cars, even when one that is exactly what I am looking for may be sitting on my Dealers lot or available for trade from another Dealership (but that is a whole other story). Again, not knocking any previous advice since they are all very well thought out replies, just expressing another perspective (which you are also free to ignore). :grouphug: Whatever you decide to do, good luck. :beerchug: Edited January 5, 2012 by bbf2530 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbf2530 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) Double post. Edited January 5, 2012 by bbf2530 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingo Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Nav matters at resale time, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lugnut Posted January 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Thanks for all the replies! I certainly don't dismiss the added convenience of the integrated Nav, but between phones, tablets, and handheld GPS units, I'm of mixed mind about it. My primary intent was to understand how likely I was to find a Sport without Nav at a dealer, or if I was going to have to order one from the factory. I've searched inventory at about 20 dealers now through the Ford site, and I'm not sure I've seen one AWD Sport without Nav! And as some are reporting that model year '12 production is all allocated, that complicates things a bit and delays timing. Also, resale is somewhat of a concern - for me primarily whether not having Nav is going to make it harder to sell the vehicle in 3-5 years (or whenever). That's the reason why I was trying to get a handle on whether the majority of people get it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbf2530 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) Thanks for all the replies! I certainly don't dismiss the added convenience of the integrated Nav, but between phones, tablets, and handheld GPS units, I'm of mixed mind about it. My primary intent was to understand how likely I was to find a Sport without Nav at a dealer, or if I was going to have to order one from the factory. I've searched inventory at about 20 dealers now through the Ford site, and I'm not sure I've seen one AWD Sport without Nav! And as some are reporting that model year '12 production is all allocated, that complicates things a bit and delays timing. Also, resale is somewhat of a concern - for me primarily whether not having Nav is going to make it harder to sell the vehicle in 3-5 years (or whenever). That's the reason why I was trying to get a handle on whether the majority of people get it or not. Hi Lugnut. :D I completely understand what you are saying. However, out of all the variables, I would probably worry about resale the least (my personal opinion, of course). Short version? For every person who would not buy a used Edge Sport without factory NAV 3-5 years from now or whenever, there is another person just like you. One who has some other type of portable GPS system and will be looking for a used Edge Sport without the added cost of factory NAV and/or vice-a-versa. Therefore, whichever way you choose to go, you lose one prospective buyer and gain another. So there is no way to predict either way what someone will or will not want who looks at your Edge Sport in 3-5 years or whenever. And if you trade it in, it is a moot point anyway. Either way, like any option the overall purchase will still result in a net loss. That is why your best bet is always to get what you want. Also, please note I am not telling you not to get the factory NAV. In fact, if I was purchasing, I would probably order the NAV myself. I usually purchase fully loaded with every option that does not require a moonroof (my own personal preference). I am not trying to influence you either way, other than to convince you to do what you feel is best for you. Whatever you decide to do, good luck. :beerchug: Edited January 6, 2012 by bbf2530 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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