rcbbdl1 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Just wanted to see if anyone else has experienced any problems with the Fram Tough Guard TG3600. This was my first oil change with the 08 Edge and changed everything started the car just to hear some noise and see oil going everywhere from the filter. Filter looks fine but I think it blew out the seal, even though it looks fine. I know everything was done right (this isn't my first rodeo) just woundering if there is a problem with the fram 3600 for the edge the top of the filter looks alot different then the motorcraft filter (that I now have and $48 for one oil change later) or did I just have some sh**ty luck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroad Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 (edited) I do not know if you are using the correct part number, but if you are, check to see if the rubber seal from the old filter was stuck to the engine. Make sure the new filter seal is pressed into its groove. Use oil only on the rubber seal and tighten 3/4 turn after good contact of the filter and mating surface. If the filter application is in question compare the diameters of the rubber seals and the threaded hole. On a separate note, Fram would be the last choice for a filter. Use a Motorcraft, Purolator or NAPA. Edited May 16, 2011 by railroad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Fram There's your problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdaniel Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 There's your problem. X2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evh Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 X3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1duFos Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 X3 XX4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdave Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Fram sucks. Go with Wix/Napa, K&N, or Motorcraft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishx65 Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 I do not know if you are using the correct part number, but if you are, check to see if the rubber seal from the old filter was stuck to the engine. Make sure the new filter seal is pressed into its groove. Use oil only on the rubber seal and tighten 3/4 turn after good contact of the filter and mating surface. If the filter application is in question compare the diameters of the rubber seals and the threaded hole. On a separate note, Fram would be the last choice for a filter. Use a Motorcraft, Purolator or NAPA. I'm also gonna go with the old filter gasket stuck to the block . Kind of embarrassing but I've been there and done that myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal3thousand Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 I do not know if you are using the correct part number, but if you are, check to see if the rubber seal from the old filter was stuck to the engine. Make sure the new filter seal is pressed into its groove. Use oil only on the rubber seal and tighten 3/4 turn after good contact of the filter and mating surface. If the filter application is in question compare the diameters of the rubber seals and the threaded hole. On a separate note, Fram would be the last choice for a filter. Use a Motorcraft, Purolator or NAPA. I'm also gonna go with the old filter gasket stuck to the block . Kind of embarrassing but I've been there and done that myself. I'm going with this one too... I've done it myself in a rush. And shamefully, I have used Fram before too... But never on the Edge and never will. Trust everyone else above on this one: FRAM sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinLine Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 I wouldn't use fram anything even if they were free !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyerjmr33 Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 I wouldn't use fram anything even if they were free !! Why not? What actual problems have you or any of you other "experts" had with a Fram Filter? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinLine Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 I used a fram filter on our Edge and the damn pleats came apart and were almost sucked into the intake. I know a friend who used a fram oil filter and after 500 miles the filter looked like it was crushed by andre the giant.....may he rest in peace ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyerjmr33 Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 I used a fram filter on our Edge and the damn pleats came apart and were almost sucked into the intake. I know a friend who used a fram oil filter and after 500 miles the filter looked like it was crushed by andre the giant.....may he rest in peace ! At how many miles on the filter? Did it get wet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablb Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Why not? What actual problems have you or any of you other "experts" had with a Fram Filter? Here’s a pretty good filter test, by some "experts." Notice ACDelco failed. http://www.gmtruckcentral.com/articles/oilfilterstudy.html Here’s the gradesheet. http://www.gmtruckcentral.com/articles/oilfilter/gradesheet.htm Note to self: Next oil/filter change use Mobil1 filter. I already use Mobil1 oil. ab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinLine Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 At how many miles on the filter? Did it get wet? I had 5,000 miles on the filter. I don't see how it could have gotten wet, as this has never happened with any other filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdave Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Note to self: Next oil/filter change use Mobil1 filter. Have you been able to find one anywhere? I ended up getting the K&N filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal3thousand Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Why not? What actual problems have you or any of you other "experts" had with a Fram Filter? Fram often make filters that will fit your car and will interchange in their book, but will not meet manufacturer's build. Case in point, Volvo filters have a back flow valve intended to keep oil primed in the filter for start up. Fram does not include this in their version, which can lead to valvetrain wear due to lack of oil pressure during the first instant of startup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinLine Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 It is a silicone anti-drainback valve. Motorcraft has them and for $3 at wally world and $28 for a 5 gallon jug of pennzoil ultra, your motor will thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablb Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Have you been able to find one anywhere? I ended up getting the K&N filter. I changed the oil/filter last month. But will be buying a M1-209 next time, here or ??? http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/search/Oil+Filter/C0289/C0023.oap?keyword=oil+filter&year=2008&make=Ford&model=Edge&vi=1441681 more info here http://www.showmetheparts.com/mobil/# ab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pxb006 Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 I've been using Fram filters for almost 30 years and have never had an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablb Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 I've been using Fram filters for almost 30 years and have never had an issue. I too used them for years with no problems, NOT sure how that worked for the next owners? I even used a few with Teflon in them, evidently THAT was not a good idea. ab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyerjmr33 Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 I changed the oil/filter last month. But will be buying a M1-209 next time, here or ??? http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/search/Oil+Filter/C0289/C0023.oap?keyword=oil+filter&year=2008&make=Ford&model=Edge&vi=1441681 more info here http://www.showmetheparts.com/mobil/# ab From the test results, it looks like the Fram XG5 is the obvious choice--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablb Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 From the test results, it looks like the Fram XG5 is the obvious choice--- When you take the price out it looks like this. http://www.gmtruckcentral.com/articles/oilfilter/gradesheet.htm XG5........Fram.......A-...A...C...A M1-302...Mobil 1....B... A...A-...A "You can pay me now, or pay me later" ab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Or you can avoid all the unknowns and just use the factory Motorcraft filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdave Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 I changed the oil/filter last month. But will be buying a M1-209 next time, here or ??? Ah, it looks like the filter changed for the '10+ models and is now a M1-212, which I can't find anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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