mac35 Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Hello all, I think I've finally reached my break point with my MFT/Sync system. Since purchasing the vehicle in January it has largely been excellent in every way except the Sync/MFT. I had to take it in for svc once to correct the black screen problem (with 2.7 does seem to have fixed) but now am running into an extremely annoying Bluetooth Audio bug. The long and short of it is this (FYI this is an android phone with both Mp3s on the device AND a streaming music service (audiogalaxy)). Recently I've found that when I select my Bluetooth Audio (which is showing up under the Audio Source menu correctly as "MC") it will attempt to connect, connect for maybe 1 second then disconnect immediately. After this occurs the Audio Source menu changes to reflect that no BT Audio source is found (I think the standard Source button is "BT Audio" or somesuch). This is all occuring while the phone is paired and functioning with no problems. Pulling fuse 29 fixed the issue for one trip but as soon as I turned the car off/on again the problem was back. Has anyone else run into this issue? It's not an issue on the phone's end I can assure you. The functionality of MFT/Sync is great WHEN IT WORKS but at this point the software is half baked and needs a thorough debugging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Pulling fuse 29 fixed the issue for one trip but as soon as I turned the car off/on again the problem was back. Has anyone else run into this issue? It's not an issue on the phone's end I can assure you. You can assure us of that how, exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal3thousand Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Hello all, I think I've finally reached my break point with my MFT/Sync system. Since purchasing the vehicle in January it has largely been excellent in every way except the Sync/MFT. I had to take it in for svc once to correct the black screen problem (with 2.7 does seem to have fixed) but now am running into an extremely annoying Bluetooth Audio bug. The long and short of it is this (FYI this is an android phone with both Mp3s on the device AND a streaming music service (audiogalaxy)). Recently I've found that when I select my Bluetooth Audio (which is showing up under the Audio Source menu correctly as "MC") it will attempt to connect, connect for maybe 1 second then disconnect immediately. After this occurs the Audio Source menu changes to reflect that no BT Audio source is found (I think the standard Source button is "BT Audio" or somesuch). This is all occuring while the phone is paired and functioning with no problems. Pulling fuse 29 fixed the issue for one trip but as soon as I turned the car off/on again the problem was back. Has anyone else run into this issue? It's not an issue on the phone's end I can assure you. The functionality of MFT/Sync is great WHEN IT WORKS but at this point the software is half baked and needs a thorough debugging. I'm running Android. Actually CyanogenMod 7 RC1 (updating to RC4 tonight). I haven't had the problems that you speak of yet. You stated that you rebooted the MFT before, did you happen to reboot the android? Mind me asking what firmware you are on / device you own? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac35 Posted April 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 You can assure us of that how, exactly? Simple problem solving? Eliminate the variables and it's pretty clear where the problem is coming from. Nothing with the phone has changed since these problems started occurring. I pulled fuse 29 (which rebooted Sync) and voila the problem is gone! I drive somewhere, turn the car off, do my errands, return to the car (meanwhile, nothing has changed with the phone) and the problem is back. Tell me, do you really think you can attribute that issue to the phone (especially given that it's pretty well established at this point that this iteration Sync/MFT has a lot of bugs?) I'm running Android. Actually CyanogenMod 7 RC1 (updating to RC4 tonight). I haven't had the problems that you speak of yet. You stated that you rebooted the MFT before, did you happen to reboot the android? Mind me asking what firmware you are on / device you own? I have an HTC Incredible, running Cyanogen 7 as well Since having this issue where fuse 29 helped and then the BT audio broke again I've repaired the phone and fiddled with settings on Sync/MFT to no avail. $100 says if I yanked fuse 29 again everything would work again (for 1 car ride at least...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal3thousand Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Simple problem solving? Eliminate the variables and it's pretty clear where the problem is coming from. Nothing with the phone has changed since these problems started occurring. I pulled fuse 29 (which rebooted Sync) and voila the problem is gone! I drive somewhere, turn the car off, do my errands, return to the car (meanwhile, nothing has changed with the phone) and the problem is back. Tell me, do you really think you can attribute that issue to the phone (especially given that it's pretty well established at this point that this iteration Sync/MFT has a lot of bugs?) I have an HTC Incredible, running Cyanogen 7 as well Since having this issue where fuse 29 helped and then the BT audio broke again I've repaired the phone and fiddled with settings on Sync/MFT to no avail. $100 says if I yanked fuse 29 again everything would work again (for 1 car ride at least...) Maybe the car doesn't like something about the bluetooth profile that it has stored. I hate to suggest it, but I think the dealer will do this first in your case also: Master Reset the MFT system. Damn hate suggesting it, but I have a feeling it will work. Otherwise, you can wait until the v2.8 is ready for your car. They'll probably reset it at that point anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac35 Posted April 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Maybe the car doesn't like something about the bluetooth profile that it has stored. I hate to suggest it, but I think the dealer will do this first in your case also: Master Reset the MFT system. Damn hate suggesting it, but I have a feeling it will work. Otherwise, you can wait until the v2.8 is ready for your car. They'll probably reset it at that point anyhow. But then why would it work after resetting MFT via the fuse pull? If it was a problem with the phone's bluetooth profile then I would think the BT audio just wouldn't work no matter what I did (not to mention that the phone portion of the BT is working fine). Ah technology, you are a fickle mistress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal3thousand Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 But then why would it work after resetting MFT via the fuse pull? If it was a problem with the phone's bluetooth profile then I would think the BT audio just wouldn't work no matter what I did (not to mention that the phone portion of the BT is working fine). Ah technology, you are a fickle mistress. Android terms applied to MFT: Think of pulling the fuse as a reboot and the Master reset as a /data partition wipe. Obviously your choice to do so... let us know if you do though. Good luck in any case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 But then why would it work after resetting MFT via the fuse pull? If it was a problem with the phone's bluetooth profile then I would think the BT audio just wouldn't work no matter what I did (not to mention that the phone portion of the BT is working fine). Ah technology, you are a fickle mistress. It's a peer to peer connection - either side can cause problems that show up in strange ways. We're not saying it's definitely the phone, but unless you've actually tried multiple phones with the same result then you can't conclude that it's not the phone. Remove the battery from the phone to reset it, delete the phone from sync, do a fuse 29 reset on sync and re-pair it. If that doesn't work try a master reset. Then try another phone if it still doesn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgieguy Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 my wifes explorer works fine streaming Pandora through bt. She's got v2.7 my incredible has drop issues with bt when I'm streaming Pandora, I've got v2.4 in the Edge. I did a complete unpairing and repairing and it helped for weeks, but it seems its creeping back in now. Also send an email to HTC about features not working with Ford sync, believe it or not, they are listening. If they come up with a bt stack that supports voice to text messaging with sync, it only makes them look better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal3thousand Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 my wifes explorer works fine streaming Pandora through bt. She's got v2.7 my incredible has drop issues with bt when I'm streaming Pandora, I've got v2.4 in the Edge. I did a complete unpairing and repairing and it helped for weeks, but it seems its creeping back in now. Also send an email to HTC about features not working with Ford sync, believe it or not, they are listening. If they come up with a bt stack that supports voice to text messaging with sync, it only makes them look better. I was really surprised to find out that BT MAP was not included in more smartphones. I guess Ford is really ahead of the curve on this one and hopefully the handset manufacturers will step up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 I was really surprised to find out that BT MAP was not included in more smartphones. I guess Ford is really ahead of the curve on this one and hopefully the handset manufacturers will step up. Outside of Sync I don't know of any bluetooth devices that would actually use that profile. Most of the devices are just headsets or streaming audio. As more sync equipped vehicles are sold and more mfrs add this bluetooth capability the cell phone mfrs should pay more attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal3thousand Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Outside of Sync I don't know of any bluetooth devices that would actually use that profile. Most of the devices are just headsets or streaming audio. As more sync equipped vehicles are sold and more mfrs add this bluetooth capability the cell phone mfrs should pay more attention. Well I was aware of some (Windows) applications that allowed you to send texts from your computer through your phone, but now that I think of it, they must operate off of a wifi connection rather than BT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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