walker22 Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Wife just got a 13' fusion with my ford touch but without navigation. The saleperson, however, included the SD card with the maps in the center console.Assuming I have all the components working, I am going to try to find out the missing link to get navigation activated on the unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpepper Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Master Tech... what about the direct input of GPS. Ford removed on 3.5.1. Is it really removed or just inactive & still in the code? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Wife just got a 13' fusion with my ford touch but without navigation. The saleperson, however, included the SD card with the maps in the center console. Assuming I have all the components working, I am going to try to find out the missing link to get navigation activated on the unit. It does not work. You can add the card and the software (if you know a dealer tech) and it will still not work. The only way to add nav to a car that wasn't built with it is by using a special tool that only Ford has (not the dealers). Can't be done unless Ford wants it to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgieguy Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Try the Www.Mocar.us solution, maybe it fits your needs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edge535 Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 i found this on youtube http://autospatech.com/navi/ford/ford-explorer-mytouch-navigation-system.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgieguy Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 That looks like the same software. I guess that Igo Primo is open source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco390 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) Buy the way...most of these replys are wrong. you cant always belive what you read on the internet...I have been fully trained on this system and have worked with many engineers on MFT problems. I work on most SYNC and MFT problems that come into my dealer. Any Questions that you have and if you want the correct responce from somebody that is highly trained on this system...just ask.. Wow, Ii am so glad I read your post, and would like to ask your opinion on the following.... I am just short of investing over $2000 to put an OEM Nav unit in our 2010 MKX... supplied from these people... http://www.oemautopartsco.com/factory-oem-navigation-radio-clarion-p-30239.html If indeed I went through all this expense only to find that their claims that it all will work fine... well, I'd be really pissed!!! What do you think?? Does the "Brick Install Kit" they mention solve the issues you name above? Or do you think we should just keep our non-nav unit and learn to be happy with it and save the $2k? Incidentally, we have the older version of Sync... no MFT. Edited February 15, 2013 by Bosco390 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Buy a Tom-tom and use the other $1800 on something fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGJ08GTS Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Wow, Ii am so glad I read your post, and would like to ask your opinion on the following.... I am just short of investing over $2000 to put an OEM Nav unit in our 2010 MKX... supplied from these people...http://www.oemautopartsco.com/factory-oem-navigation-radio-clarion-p-30239.html If indeed I went through all this expense only to find that their claims that it all will work fine... well, I'd be really pissed!!! What do you think?? Does the "Brick Install Kit" they mention solve the issues you name above? Or do you think we should just keep our non-nav unit and learn to be happy with it and save the $2k? Incidentally, we have the older version of Sync... no MFT. I'm pretty sure this thread applies to the 2011-up models.........hence the reason they are listed as compatible in the link you posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasontaps Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 It has been some time since this first post. Any new information come of this? Does the MFT have the software (not maps, I realize those come on the A cards) built in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Nothing new. Still can't be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christx0277 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 True or false? Taking a nav unit out of wrecked edge and installing in yours with out will work? Confirmed all other hardware is in place, as my non nav will give me gps coordinates. Just curious, cause those are cheap in junk yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 It depends on which parts were replaced and whether the parts are tied to VIN through the PCM or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw75098 Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 I need navigation assistance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw75098 Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Fordseniormastertech Can you help me figure out my problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw75098 Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 It can be added. I promise. Well dingo would u care to fill me in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw75098 Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 It can be added. I promise. Well dingo would u care to fill me in? Care to elaborate or would that violate the fifth amendment? I have been trying to figure this out since I bought my 2011 edge. I could realy use some words of wisdom. If you have any for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw75098 Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 It can be added. I promise. Well dingo would u care to fill me in? Care to elaborate or would that violate the fifth amendment? I have been trying to figure this out since I bought my 2011 edge. I could realy use some words of wisdom. If you have any for me Not really that easy. There is Nav software in the "SYNC" system, which could be updated, but the fundamental "switch", ie is Nav turned on or not, is more or a hard-coded thing and doesn't change with software updates. Also the cluster has it's own software that is different between Nav and non-Nav. It's my understanding that the cluster could not be updated with the USB, just like you can't update the PCM code with a USB. That being said, it is still possible to change a non-Nav vehicle to Nav with only software - I've seen it done. But as akirby points out, it's just a matter of marketing. I cant find anything. And you say you have seen it? Why don't you help a blind man see! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpepper Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 I believe he is referring to a bootleg style of nav on a non-nav, The other obvious question is why not let any device ( phone, tablet) that can run a nav directions program just plug into the bigger MFT screen? Same reason Marketing & big bucks to sell you theirs & not allow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 I believe he is referring to a bootleg style of nav on a non-nav, The other obvious question is why not let any device ( phone, tablet) that can run a nav directions program just plug into the bigger MFT screen? Same reason Marketing & big bucks to sell you theirs & not allow. That's certainly part of it, but there is a big technical issue with making that work seamlessly. Different screen sizes, touch commands, standard apis. Not as easy as "just plug it in". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 There are also a lot of FMVSS rules that apply to cars that don't apply to desktop computers/tablets/portable devices. If Ford lets you control what's on the screen, how do they ensure that you are only doing things that are legally allowed to be done on the screen? And to mw75098, the only way to add factory nav is to have someone with access to the unlocking tool. But those are only Ford engineers and their suppliers and they are instructed not to give it to anybody that's not a Ford engineer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 There are also a lot of FMVSS rules that apply to cars that don't apply to desktop computers/tablets/portable devices. If Ford lets you control what's on the screen, how do they ensure that you are only doing things that are legally allowed to be done on the screen? Right - like watching a video while the car is in motion. That's illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coops Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 We just purchased a used 14 Edge with MFT. It has the SD slot, but I cannot see the green Navigation button on the screen. The dealer salesperson told us it had Nav, and gave us the A5 SSD card. I intend to take it to the dealership, and have them tell me what is up. I have a sinking feeling, it in fact does not have Nav. I am hoping, if it doesn't have it, they can "install" it. I am hoping this is something that can now be done at the dealership. There are posts from 2011 regarding this. Does anyone know if it is now possible? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpm419419 Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 If your paperwork says with Nav then you have the option of returning the vehicle if they cannot instal it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ls973800 Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Still not possible as far as I know. Run your VIN at this site to see just about everything there is to know about your car and what options it was built with. Open the link, click the top left "Vehicle" then enter your VIN. Hit Search and you will have in depth information on your car. http://www.etis.ford.com/vehicleSelection.do Or thry this site to see if it will show your original window sticker. You will need your VIN there also. http://researchmaniacs.com/VIN-Number-Lookup/WindowSticker/Ford.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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