2007 Ford Edge SEL

[smokey]

Hello everybody,

 

I purchased a new 2007 Ford Edge SEL with premium package in October 2007. I am pleased with the car, but I think I was cheated on the price. I paid what the dealer calls plan A (the price that Ford employees pay). However, I did not get any discount because the car was a demo with 5,590 miles on. The dealer states that my discount was the plan A price, because I do not work for Ford and I got tge employee prce. I think that employee pricing was available for everybody at that time, as the 2008 Edges were coming in. Did anybody buy a Ford Edge at that time and do you remember if Ford advertised employee preicing for everyone? I purchase my Edge at Dorian Ford in Michigan. Can anybody help me withthis information?

Edited March 6, 2010 by smokey

[bbf2530]

Hello everybody,

 

I purchased a new 2007 Ford Edge SEL with premium package in October 2007. I am pleased with the car, but I think I was cheated on the price. I paid what the dealer calls plan A (the price that Ford employees pay). However, I did not get any discount because the car was a demo with 5,590 miles on. The dealer states that my discount was the plan A price, because I do not work for Ford and I got tge employee prce. I think that employee pricing was available for everybody at that time, as the 2008 Edges were coming in. Did anybody buy a Ford Edge at that time and do you remember if Ford advertised employee preicing for everyone? I purchase my Edge at Dorian Ford in Michigan. Can anybody help me withthis information?

 

Hi smokey. :D This may be hard to explain in a short Internet post, but I will give it a try: It is going to be very difficult to help you here for several reasons. First of all, with over 5,000 miles, you purchase a used car, not a new one. And A-Plan (or Employee Purchase Plan) only applies to new vehicles. Demo's are not eligible. But if the information you are providing is correct, then the Dealer "sold it to you" as though it was a new vehicle.

 

And even if A-Plan was available during the "A-Plan for everyone event", again your Edge was a used vehicle and even the A-Plan Price would be overpriced for a used Edge with over 5,000 miles on the odometer.

 

So for a start, you should have negotiated that purchase as a used car, and should have received a better/lower price than whatever the Dealer told you "Plan A" (A-Plan) was.

 

Bottom line at this point? In all honesty, your deal is almost 2 1/2 years old and it can not be changed. Essentially, you need to use it as a learning experience. Maybe next purchase you should take along a friend or family member who is more experienced and can assist you in your negotiations.

 

Hopefully you are happy with your Edge otherwise and can just enjoy the rest of the ownership experience.

 

Good luck. :beerchug:

[bulldog]

to late to worry now. forget about it and move on. done it once myself and 4 years later i finally wasn't upside down near as bad. sometimes they just get'cha. like above stated, use it as a learning experience.

[smokey]

Actually, I found my copy of the contract and I paid the "X" plan price on tis car. I am really furious. Does anybody know if there is any way to recover the monies I lost on this car? There is also a breach of verbal contract involved. The salesman told me that I was buying the top of the line of the Ford Edge at this price, since the demo was driven by Mrs. Dorian, the owner's sister and she always drives the top of the line of any car she decides to drive. This statement was said in the presence of my boyfriend. When I went in about a month ago for a trade in evaluation, I discovered that my Edge was far away from the top of the line. The dealership's position is that they have a legal contract and they have done nothing wrong. That is why I am trying to find out what manufacturer rebates and incentives were available at that time {october 2007) for purchasing the new 2007 Ford Edge SEL, as well as any specials advertised by Mike Dorian Ford in Michigan. Does anybody know?

[bbf2530]

Actually, I found my copy of the contract and I paid the "X" plan price on tis car. I am really furious. Does anybody know There is also a breach of verbal contract involved. The salesman told me that I was buying the top of the line of the Ford Edge at this price, since the demo was driven by Mrs. Dorian, the owner's sister and she always drives the top of the line of any car she decides to drive. This statement was said in the presence of my boyfriend. When I went in about a month ago for a trade in evaluation, I discovered that my Edge was far away from the top of the line. The dealership's position is that they have a legal contract and they have done nothing wrong. That is why I am trying to find out what manufacturer rebates and incentives were available at that time {october 2007) for purchasing the new 2007 Ford Edge SEL, as well as any specials advertised by Mike Dorian Ford in Michigan. Does anybody know?

 

 

Hi smokey. :D First, please realize that I am not trying to make you feel worse, but you need to understand the realities of the situation. So that being said, I will try to answer what I can, and give educated advice on the rest.

 

Concerning past Incentives and Rebates, I can't answer for the following reasons: First of all, besides varying by date, Incentives and Rebates also vary by region/ZIP Code, so what I may have paid in my area of NJ on 10/2007 would have no validity for you and where you live. In fact, someone in the next town over from you may get different Incentives than you did on 10/2007. To receive any sort of accurate information concerning Ford Corporate Incentives/Rebates, you would likely need to contact Ford.

Concerning "specials advertised by Mike Dorian Ford in Michigan"? You would need to contact the Dealership or your Sales Contract. It is doubtful anyone in the rest of the country (or even anyone in your area of Michigan) would know that information from 2 1/2 years ago. And any Dealer Incentives would likely not have been applicable to what the Dealer "claims" was an X-Plan sale anyway.

 

Concerning the "X-Plan Price you paid", there are several issues you need to understand:

1) "X-Plan Price" is not "Employee Pricing". Employee Pricing is "A-Plan"". So while you stated in your first post that you thought you received "Employee Pricing", unfortunately that information was incorrect. Makes the deal that much worse

2) While you may "think" you received the "X-Plan Price", it certainly was not an "X-Plan Purchase" through Ford, since again, Demo vehicles are not eligible for X-Plan sales, no exceptions. Ford makes the Plan rules, not the Dealer, so no matter what the Dealer told you, it could not have been an actual X-Plan sale through Ford.

3) Even if the Dealer sold you the car at the "X-Plan Price" (which still is not necessarily the same as selling it on the X-Plan), you overpaid for a used vehicle. Paying X-Plan on a used vehicle with over 5,000 miles on it is still a bad deal. The price should have been lower. And as mentioned in my previous reply, even 'A-Plan" (Employee Pricing and lower than X-Plan) would have been overpaying for a 5,000 mile Demo.

 

Concerning "if there is any way to recover the monies I lost on this car?", I can tell you this:

1) Your best bet would be to ask for legal advice from an Attorney, not a bunch on strangers on the Internet.

2) This much is certain concerning written contracts vs. verbal agreements: Legally speaking, a written contract can not be modified by any "verbal contracts" or verbal agreements/statements. Bottom line is it does not matter what was agreed to verbally, a written contract is the accepted final agreement. And lets face it, the Salesman/Dealer will swear they did not tell you what you and your boyfriend heard, and it will be a he said/she said situation In that cased again, the written contract wins.

 

While I do not necessarily expect you to take my recommendations at face value, this incident occurred 2 1/2 years ago. It is a done deal and all you can do is use it as a learning experience. Unless you can prove fraud (which is extremely difficult to do), this is a losing battle. A written contract is the final word. Legally, what you sign is what you agreed to.

 

The bottom line is that unless you can prove fraud in your written contract (i.e. they claimed it was "new" instead of a "Demo" or some other fraudulent statement), you need to use this as a learning experience on how not to handle a purchase in the future. You made a mistake and trusted the word of someone who was trying to sell you something. Don't waste time beating yourself up over it, as you are not the first, and you will not be the last. But there is likely nothing that can be done.

 

Now, have I covered every possible legal contingency in this Internet reply? Of course not. That is why I will highly recommend this final piece of advice: To satisfy your own curiosity, I would advise you contact an Attorney in your area for verification. Internet strangers (including me) are not the best source of legal advice.

 

Sorry I could not offer better news.

 

Good luck. :beerchug:

Edited March 15, 2010 by bbf2530

[MOFSTEEL]

Is the OP serious or is this a joke?

[bbf2530]

Is the OP serious or is this a joke?

 

Hi MOFSTEEL. :D I am proceeding under the assumption that the OP is serious, new to car buying and learned late that they made a bad deal.

 

Hope they are serious so that we are not just wasting our time. Wouldn't that be a bitch.

 

Good luck. :beerchug:

Edited March 15, 2010 by bbf2530

[smokey]

Hi smokey. :D First, please realize that I am not trying to make you feel worse, but you need to understand the realities of the situation. So that being said, I will try to answer what I can, and give educated advice on the rest.

 

Concerning past Incentives and Rebates, I can't answer for the following reasons: First of all, besides varying by date, Incentives and Rebates also vary by region/ZIP Code, so what I may have paid in my area of NJ on 10/2007 would have no validity for you and where you live. In fact, someone in the next town over from you may get different Incentives than you did on 10/2007. To receive any sort of accurate information concerning Ford Corporate Incentives/Rebates, you would likely need to contact Ford.

Concerning "specials advertised by Mike Dorian Ford in Michigan"? You would need to contact the Dealership or your Sales Contract. It is doubtful anyone in the rest of the country (or even anyone in your area of Michigan) would know that information from 2 1/2 years ago. And any Dealer Incentives would likely not have been applicable to what the Dealer "claims" was an X-Plan sale anyway.

 

Concerning the "X-Plan Price you paid", there are several issues you need to understand:

1) "X-Plan Price" is not "Employee Pricing". Employee Pricing is "A-Plan"". So while you stated in your first post that you thought you received "Employee Pricing", unfortunately that information was incorrect. Makes the deal that much worse

2) While you may "think" you received the "X-Plan Price", it certainly was not an "X-Plan Purchase" through Ford, since again, Demo vehicles are not eligible for X-Plan sales, no exceptions. Ford makes the Plan rules, not the Dealer, so no matter what the Dealer told you, it could not have been an actual X-Plan sale through Ford.

3) Even if the Dealer sold you the car at the "X-Plan Price" (which still is not necessarily the same as selling it on the X-Plan), you overpaid for a used vehicle. Paying X-Plan on a used vehicle with over 5,000 miles on it is still a bad deal. The price should have been lower. And as mentioned in my previous reply, even 'A-Plan" (Employee Pricing and lower than X-Plan) would have been overpaying for a 5,000 mile Demo.

 

Concerning "if there is any way to recover the monies I lost on this car?", I can tell you this:

1) Your best bet would be to ask for legal advice from an Attorney, not a bunch on strangers on the Internet.

2) This much is certain concerning written contracts vs. verbal agreements: Legally speaking, a written contract can not be modified by any "verbal contracts" or verbal agreements/statements. Bottom line is it does not matter what was agreed to verbally, a written contract is the accepted final agreement. And lets face it, the Salesman/Dealer will swear they did not tell you what you and your boyfriend heard, and it will be a he said/she said situation In that cased again, the written contract wins.

 

While I do not necessarily expect you to take my recommendations at face value, this incident occurred 2 1/2 years ago. It is a done deal and all you can do is use it as a learning experience. Unless you can prove fraud (which is extremely difficult to do), this is a losing battle. A written contract is the final word. Legally, what you sign is what you agreed to.

 

The bottom line is that unless you can prove fraud in your written contract (i.e. they claimed it was "new" instead of a "Demo" or some other fraudulent statement), you need to use this as a learning experience on how not to handle a purchase in the future. You made a mistake and trusted the word of someone who was trying to sell you something. Don't waste time beating yourself up over it, as you are not the first, and you will not be the last. But there is likely nothing that can be done.

 

Now, have I covered every possible legal contingency in this Internet reply? Of course not. That is why I will highly recommend this final piece of advice: To satisfy your own curiosity, I would advise you contact an Attorney in your area for verification. Internet strangers (including me) are not the best source of legal advice.

 

Sorry I could not offer better news.

 

Good luck. :beerchug:

[smokey]

What do you mean by OP? My story is 100 % painfully true and I thank the people that took time to answer me.

[bbf2530]

What do you mean by OP? My story is 100 % painfully true and I thank the people that took time to answer me.

 

 

Hi smokey. :D "OP" just means "Original Poster", i.e. the person who first posts a question or statement on an Internet forum. Or in this case, you.

 

It is not an insult. :beerchug:

 

Good luck.