Mr. Westfield Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Hello there, I just took a trip to Maryland after doing a 4 wheel brake job on a 2008 Edge SE. I cut the rotors due to a vibration and changed the brake pads to NAPA's high end Adaptive One series front and back. Was going to use the Motorcraft, but was looking to improve the feel of the brake pedal which I feel is mushy. I drove over 500 miles and the brake pedal is very mushy. Note that the pedal was exactly the same before the brake job was performed. These brakes feel lousy compared to my other vehicles that are Blue Oval designs. My Freestyle brakes are hard as a rock with no free play at all. The Edge feels like I am driving an old vehicle from the 70's with drums that are out of adjustment. Mushy, with about 1" of free play. To me they just do not feel correct. Has anyone bleed the system using DOT 4 to possibly correct this condition? Changed out a master cylinder? Anything to improve this? I do feel that everyone here knows what I am talking about. When I went to the Ford dealer to ask some questions, they just told me that is the way the brakes are on those vehicles. I am not buying it. If it is normal, shame on Ford for putting such a poor system into production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carcondo Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Never thought the brakes were mushy or had free play. I drive several other cars and when I switch to the Edge, sometimes weeks since the last time I drove it, it feels .......................normal. Maybe you need to dig a little deeper - are the rotors still warped and pushing the pads back into the calipers? Remember, dealers will say anything to avoid helping a customer!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOFSTEEL Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Repost!!! Look here. http://www.fordedgeforum.com/index.php?sho...2&hl=brakes You might try using the search function before posting a new topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druck52 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Hello there, I just took a trip to Maryland after doing a 4 wheel brake job on a 2008 Edge SE. I cut the rotors due to a vibration and changed the brake pads to NAPA's high end Adaptive One series front and back. Was going to use the Motorcraft, but was looking to improve the feel of the brake pedal which I feel is mushy. I drove over 500 miles and the brake pedal is very mushy. Note that the pedal was exactly the same before the brake job was performed. These brakes feel lousy compared to my other vehicles that are Blue Oval designs. My Freestyle brakes are hard as a rock with no free play at all. The Edge feels like I am driving an old vehicle from the 70's with drums that are out of adjustment. Mushy, with about 1" of free play. To me they just do not feel correct. Has anyone bleed the system using DOT 4 to possibly correct this condition? Changed out a master cylinder? Anything to improve this? I do feel that everyone here knows what I am talking about. When I went to the Ford dealer to ask some questions, they just told me that is the way the brakes are on those vehicles. I am not buying it. If it is normal, shame on Ford for putting such a poor system into production. Has your pedal always felt like that. If so then it is probably normal. If not then you may have air in the lines. The edge does seem to have a softer pedal than other cars, but stops fine. I would try and bleed the brakes first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablb Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 (edited) I agree with carcondo, I find the brakes ok. This summer we did a little spirited driving on our way from Cripple Creek Colorado (west bound) 30 miles. The Pontiac that was trying to keep up COULDN’T, when I let him pass he COULDN’T get away. I did COOK the brakes but I expected to. No mush at all. After 20 miles it did take progressively more pressure as the brake fluid heated up. There are a few posts on here about mushy brakes so maybe there are some Edge/MKX’s out there with mushy brakes?? Have you considered upgrading your lines to stainless steel? I noticed a HUGE difference when I upgraded my motorcycle to SS lines. http://www.autozone.com/autozone/catalog/a...questid=1748726 ab Edited November 30, 2009 by ablb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 I agree with carcondo, I find the brakes ok. This summer we did a little spirited driving on our way from Cripple Creek Colorado (west bound) 30 miles. The Pontiac that was trying to keep up COULDN’T, when I let him pass he COULDN’T get away. I did COOK the brakes but I expected to. No mush at all. After 20 miles it did take progressively more pressure as the brake fluid heated up. There are a few posts on here about mushy brakes so maybe there are some Edge/MKX’s out there with mushy brakes?? Have you considered upgrading your lines to stainless steel? I noticed a HUGE difference when I upgraded my motorcycle to SS lines. http://www.autozone.com/autozone/catalog/a...questid=1748726 ab Making sure they are bled correctly is a good start. Running stainless lines is a cheap but very effective way to pick up some pedal feel. I have them on my Maxima and my MR2 and have made a noticable difference in pedal feel for modulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts 2010 Edge Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 The only thing about SS brake lines I would watch out for is that they do have a bad habit of losening after time and you run into the risk of them coming off completely. I have them on my Mustang and have to check them every few months to make sure they are still tight. Matthew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mxs Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Hello, I'm hoping this is the place to ask this so I'll give it a shot instead of starting a new thread. I've also noticed the mushy brakes feeling, especially after a few days of driving a Highlander. Like others have already said, my Edge seems to have a lot of "give" or "softness" between applying the brake and actually stopping. My question is about brake pad wear - I just had my car serviced and was told the brakes are still "fine", but looking at the service history I'm confused by how the pads seem to be wearing. This is the recent mileage vs. brake measurement history: 41,000 miles -- all brakes @ 10/32 45,000 miles -- L/F and R/F @ 10/32, L/R and R/R at 5/32 51,000 miles -- all brakes @ 7/32 (this was today) I'm a total-confessing noob at this, but what I'm wondering is how did my rear brake pads get thicker in the last 6k miles? Is this a measurement error or just something that happens? (Like I said, I don't know enough to know if this is a stupid question or not). I've got a 2008 SE, 2wd, and just put 17" Latitude Tours on in the last 1,000 miles. In any case, I've still got mushy brakes. I read through most of the forums - has anyone tried the SS lines on their Edge (vs. on other vehicles)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Hello, I'm hoping this is the place to ask this so I'll give it a shot instead of starting a new thread. I've also noticed the mushy brakes feeling, especially after a few days of driving a Highlander. Like others have already said, my Edge seems to have a lot of "give" or "softness" between applying the brake and actually stopping. My question is about brake pad wear - I just had my car serviced and was told the brakes are still "fine", but looking at the service history I'm confused by how the pads seem to be wearing. This is the recent mileage vs. brake measurement history: 41,000 miles -- all brakes @ 10/32 45,000 miles -- L/F and R/F @ 10/32, L/R and R/R at 5/32 51,000 miles -- all brakes @ 7/32 (this was today) I'm a total-confessing noob at this, but what I'm wondering is how did my rear brake pads get thicker in the last 6k miles? Is this a measurement error or just something that happens? (Like I said, I don't know enough to know if this is a stupid question or not). I've got a 2008 SE, 2wd, and just put 17" Latitude Tours on in the last 1,000 miles. In any case, I've still got mushy brakes. I read through most of the forums - has anyone tried the SS lines on their Edge (vs. on other vehicles)? Has to be a measurement error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Nap Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 as stated in another thread, I replaced my master cyl and booster @ 40K miles. master was leaking.....c'mon recall, I'd sure like to get that $600 back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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