Renegadebuck Posted November 10 Report Share Posted November 10 I was alone (well for about 1/4 mile front and back) with the cruise on at about 50 mph on a 4 lane road in the slow lane and the car suddenly stood on it’s nose and then turned hard left. I was lucky to be alone as I would have taken out anyone trying to pass. Anyone else had this happen? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garycrist Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 I have turned off all of the STUPID DRIVER assists. They are not ready for prime time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wubster100 Posted November 12 Report Share Posted November 12 It seems like automatic emergency brakes were applied, and the steering wheel got pushed to the left. Evasive steering assist applied additional steering torque to the left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will2U Posted November 12 Report Share Posted November 12 Yeah, it sounds like the car thought something was in the path. I had someone start to pull into my lane (would have creamed the passenger side) and I didn't see them. Evasive steering applied brakes and moved me to the left. Saved me from being hit. Perhaps there was something that the sensors picked up. I always make sure my sensors are clean because I value the evasive steering feature. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabangsta Posted November 12 Report Share Posted November 12 I haven't had evasive steering assist triggered, but I have had the pre-collision warning and brake pressure reload happen quite a few (50?) times. Usually for good reason, and a few times due to semi trailers next to me on curvy roads, and once or twice with only things like signs or bushes far along side the road. But since it is just a warning and pre pressurizing the brakes (I braked once after it went off and they are primed and ready) and not any active assist, I just understand what is happening when it happens. Adaptive Cruise is so nice. I accidentally disabled lane keeping and lane centering my last 350 mile trip, and didn't really know until I looked at the display and it wasn't the steering wheel and it wasn't the green arrows on dotted lines. It does help with fatigue, I turned it back on for the return trip. I don't expect it to drive for me, and I still steer and position myself in the lane where I want, but for the small lapse in focus and it keeping you where you should be, it is nice. I used to drive with my knees while eating a taco with my head tilted, I think I did a better job than the lane centering. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STBEAST Posted November 12 Report Share Posted November 12 (edited) Sounds like something set it off. Since you have a 22 and it is a safety/liability issue, take it in and tell them your story. Could it have been something you didn't see? like an animal or obstacle in the road? Or maybe a bad sensor. Maybe there will be a code stored in the ECU. It may not be perfect but one day it could save your life for sure. I have my pre collision warning set to the highest setting, and it has saved me on more than one occasion. Luckily, I reacted before the Evasive Assist took action. Edited November 12 by STBEAST 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wubster100 Posted November 13 Report Share Posted November 13 Is your adaptive cruise control working? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 The following 2022-2024 Edge Workshop Manual sections, attached below as PDF documents, describe the operation and components of the Adaptive Cruise Control System Lane Keeping/Lane Centering System, and Collision Warning/Collision Avoidance System Good luck! Adaptive Cruise Control - System Operation and Component Description - 2022 Edge Workshop Manual.pdf Adaptive Cruise Control - Pre-Collision Assist - 2022 Edge Workshop Manual.pdf Lane Keeping System - Overview - Description and Operation - 2022 Edge Workshop Manual.pdf Lane Keeping System - System Operation and Component Description - 2022 Edge Workshop Manual.pdf Collision Warning and Collision Avoidance System - System Operation and Component Description - 2022 Edge Workshop Manual.pdf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wubster100 Posted November 18 Report Share Posted November 18 Is there also evasive steering assist? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabangsta Posted November 18 Report Share Posted November 18 48 minutes ago, Wubster100 said: Is there also evasive steering assist? Not enough information from the OP, as not all models get Evasive Steering Assist (my 2019 has it because it has Co-Pilot360 Assist+ with ACC), but that was is what I suspect, just not that it was triggered for no apparent reason. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garycrist Posted November 18 Report Share Posted November 18 I had to turn as much off as I could. I got tired of fighting for control of the vehicle. Like the OP stated all of a sudden my 22 ST would do some of the same things. He might have driven into a flock of bugs.😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted November 18 Report Share Posted November 18 (edited) With emphasis added... Ford Co‑Pilot360 Assist+ Evasive Steering Assist Evasive Steering Assist(1) aids the driver in avoiding a collision with a slower or stopped vehicle ahead by providing a boost to the steering. This allows the driver to steer with less effort when the collision cannot be avoided by braking alone. Dramatization. How It Works Designed to operate at city and highway speeds Detects slower-moving and stationary vehicles ahead by using a camera and radar Analyzes the gap between vehicles and classifies the risk of having a rear-end collision If the risk is high and there is insufficient space to avoid a collision by braking only, the system provides the appropriate level of steering torque to help the driver steer around the obstacle How To Use If there is a slowed or stopped vehicle ahead, the system only activates when all of the following occurs: Pre-Collision Assist detects a vehicle ahead and starts to apply Active Braking The driver turns the steering wheel in an attempt to steer around the vehicle and the system applies additional steering torque to help steer around the vehicle After the vehicle is passed, the system applies steering torque in the opposite direction to encourage the driver to steer back into the lane. It applies the brakes of individual wheels to enhance path-following capability The system deactivates after the vehicle is fully passed If the system is not operating properly, ensure the sensors are clean from debris such as snow or mud NOTE: Evasive Steering Assist does not automatically steer around a vehicle. If the driver does not turn the wheel, the system will not activate. NOTE: When Active Braking is turned Off, Evasive Steering Assist is also turned Off. Both features automatically turn On at each key cycle. (1) Evasive steering does not control steering. DRIVER-ASSIST NOTE: Driver-assist features are supplemental and do not replace the driver’s attention, judgment and need to control the vehicle. It does not replace safe driving. See Owner’s Manual for details and limitations. Edited November 18 by Haz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted November 18 Report Share Posted November 18 On November 11th, @Renegadebuck offered the following reply to my questions about the experience, via Forum messaging... It does have ACC, and it was on. Yes, the wheel jerked left while I was holding it. I don’t remember hearing or seeing a warning. I don’t remember the [ABS] brake pump sound working, but I had the radio on and wasn’t expecting anything to happen. I had to mash the accelerator to the floor to keep it from completely stopping, and when it started accelerating everything went back to normal. Completely dry and straight road. I have not checked [for DTCs] with a scanner. Good luck! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabangsta Posted November 18 Report Share Posted November 18 So just like the owners manual states, it isn't actively steering, it just reduces the effort needed to actually steer if you do that. I am too chicken to try it out, I try to experience all emergency drivers aids like ABS (one side tires in gravel, other side on pavement, for example), and I have felt collision warning pressurizing the brake system (it is great!), but not been in a safe situation to try evasive steering assist, or collision avoidance actively braking for me. I might be getting too many false collision warnings and I might start disregarding them, but so far when they trigger I try to make myself more aware of things close to me, and not further away, like interstate driving. Usually it is a truck and and trailer next to me on a curving road that sets it off, so I anticipate it then. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wubster100 Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 19 hours ago, Haz said: I don’t remember hearing or seeing a warning. Are there any aftermarket audio accessories or other modifications? If pre collision assist was activated, then the IPC should have given a warning, and the ACM should have temporarily muted the radio. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wubster100 Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 16 hours ago, dabangsta said: I am too chicken to try it out, I try to experience all emergency drivers aids like ABS I have heard from someone that tested evasive steering assist. They claim that it felt like the vehicle basically switched lanes by itself after pushing the steering wheel over to the left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STBEAST Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 (edited) I was fortunate enough to attend the Ford ST/SUV Experience in Park City Utah this past year. One of the courses was the dummy car stopped in front of me. You would accelerate to about 25 mph and take your foot off the gas and brake pedal at pre-determined marker and the system would activate with a warning and slam on the brakes before you hit the dummy car. Pretty amazing. Edited November 19 by STBEAST 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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