Dan_o Posted November 7 Report Share Posted November 7 Good morning everyone my 2017 edge has developed the no audio coming from the speakers anymore. I have found other audio control modules with my same id number so my question is can it be reprogrammed with using the forscan or do I need to take it to the dealer. If it can be done with forscan is there anyone that could help do it. My vin is 2FMPK4J96HBC21346 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabangsta Posted November 7 Report Share Posted November 7 What model and options for audio do you have? Yes, usually you can take an ACM that matches some requirements (like if you have HD radio, for example), use Forscan to load your As Built data to it (either from saving it from the ACM using Forscan, or downloading it from Ford). I ask the model because the 12 speaker Sony has HD radio (which you might want to be sure you get an ACM with that), and an external amplifier (which is fused on its own, and possibly could be reason no audio?). I think the 9 speaker premium uses the on ACM amplifier, but maybe someone can post the different radio configs wiring and descriptions. K4J from your VIN is an AWD SEL, which could have the standard 6 speaker radio, or the optional 9 speaker "premium" radio (which if you have a group 201a vehicle with SYNC 3, heated seats, leather trimmed front seats you have the 9 speaker system). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_o Posted November 7 Author Report Share Posted November 7 Yes I have the 9 speaker system and the audio control module I have found matches my id model number and is coming out of sub edge with the same options as mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Haz Posted November 7 Report Share Posted November 7 Welcome to the Forum @Dan_o! The VIN-based As-Built data for your Edge's factory installed Audio Front Control Module (ACM) is... 727-01-01 1801 3808 0089 727-01-02 0200 33 727-02-01 5B8C 727-03-01 3C6E 727-04-01 0001 0155 53DD If the currently installed ACM is truly faulty, and it is replaced with a working ACM from an Edge with an identical audio system, then the incoming ACM is likely programmed with the same As-Built values shown above. It would be prudent to verify these As-Built values using Forscan on the currently installed ACM, and to verify the As-Built values of the replacement ACM after it is installed. It is worth noting that a no-audio-sound condition can be caused by a properly working ACM which shuts down audio output in response to a shorted speaker circuit, per the 2017 Edge Workshop Manual, with emphasis added... Symptom Chart: Speakers Condition Possible Sources Actions No sound from all speakers Refer to the Pinpoint Test GO to Pinpoint Test F No Sound From All Speakers Normal Operation and Fault Conditions REFER to: Information and Entertainment System - System Operation and Component Description (415-00B Information and Entertainment System - General Information - Vehicles With: Touchscreen Display, Description and Operation). See ACM . When the ignition status message from the BCM indicates that the engine is cranking, the ACM mutes the audio output. A short to ground or short to voltage in the circuitry to one of the speakers may cause multiple speakers to lose sound due to the built-in overload protection feature of the ACM . In this case, a speaker fault DTC sets. DTC Fault Trigger Conditions DTC Description Fault Trigger Conditions DTC Type B1142:27 Ignition Status 1: Signal Rate of Change Above Threshold Set by the ACM when an error is detected in the ignition status message from the BCM during engine start. Continuous Possible Source ACM PINPOINT TEST F: NO SOUND FROM ALL SPEAKERS F1 VERIFY THAT THE ACM (AUDIO FRONT CONTROL MODULE) PASSES THE NETWORK TEST Using a diagnostic scan tool, perform the network test. Did the ACM pass the network test? Yes GO to F2 No REFER to: Communications Network (418-00 Module Communications Network, Diagnosis and Testing). See The ACM Does Not Respond To The Diagnostic Scan Tool. F2 CHECK FOR SPEAKER DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODES (DTCS) Ignition ON. Using a diagnostic scan tool, perform the ACM self-test. Are any speaker fault Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) present? Yes REFER to the ACM DTC Chart in this section. ***INCLUDED BELOW THIS PINPOINT TEST*** No GO to F3 F3 CHECK FOR CORRECT ACM (AUDIO FRONT CONTROL MODULE) OPERATION Ignition OFF. Disconnect and inspect all the ACM connectors and related in-line connectors. Repair: corrosion (clean module pins or install new connectors or terminals) damaged or bent pins (install new terminals or pins) pushed-out pins (install new pins as necessary) Reconnect the ACM connectors and related in-line connectors. Make sure they seat and latch correctly. Operate the system and determine if the concern is still present. Is the concern still present? Yes CHECK OASIS for any applicable Technical Service Bulletins (TSBs). If a TSB exists for this concern, discontinue this test and follow TSB instructions. If no Technical Service Bulletins (TSBs) address this concern, INSTALL a new ACM . REFER to: Audio Front Control Module (ACM) (415-00B Information and Entertainment System - General Information - Vehicles With: Touchscreen Display, Removal and Installation). No The system is operating correctly at this time. The concern may have been caused by module connections. ADDRESS the root cause of any connector or pin issues. DTC Chart: ACM DTC Description Action B1142:27 Ignition Status 1: Signal Rate of Change Above Threshold GO to Pinpoint Test F B1A01:01 Speaker #1: General Electrical Failure For a LHF door speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test G For a LHF tweeter speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test H B1A01:11 Speaker #1: Circuit Short To Ground For a LHF door speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test G For a LHF tweeter speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test H B1A01:12 Speaker #1: Circuit Short To Battery For a LHF door speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test G For a LHF tweeter speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test H B1A01:13 Speaker #1: Circuit Open For a LHF door speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test G For a LHF tweeter speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test H B1A02:01 Speaker #2: General Electrical Failure For a RHF door speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test I For a RHF tweeter speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test J B1A02:11 Speaker #2: Circuit Short To Ground For a RHF door speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test I For a RHF tweeter speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test J B1A02:12 Speaker #2: Circuit Short To Battery For a RHF door speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test I For a RHF tweeter speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test J B1A02:13 Speaker #2: Circuit Open For a RHF door speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test I For a RHF tweeter speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test J B1A03:01 Speaker #3: General Electrical Failure For a RHR door speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test K For a RHR tweeter speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test L B1A03:11 Speaker #3: Circuit Short To Ground For a RHR door speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test K For a RHR tweeter speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test L B1A03:12 Speaker #3: Circuit Short To Battery For a RHR door speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test K For a RHR tweeter speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test L B1A03:13 Speaker #3: Circuit Open For a RHR door speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test K For a RHR tweeter speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test L B1A04:01 Speaker #4: General Electrical Failure For a LHR door speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test M For a LHR tweeter speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test N B1A04:11 Speaker #4: Circuit Short To Ground For a LHR door speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test M For a LHR tweeter speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test N B1A04:12 Speaker #4: Circuit Short To Battery For a LHR door speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test M For a LHR tweeter speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test N B1A04:13 Speaker #4: Circuit Open For a LHR door speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test M For a LHR tweeter speaker concern, GO to Pinpoint Test N B1A06:02 Speaker #6: General Signal Failure GO to Pinpoint Test O B1A06:11 Speaker #6: Circuit Short To Ground GO to Pinpoint Test O B1A06:12 Speaker #6: Circuit Short To Battery GO to Pinpoint Test O B1A06:13 Speaker #6: Circuit Open GO to Pinpoint Test O B1A56:21 Antenna: Signal Amplitude < Minimum If DTC B1A56:21 sets after running the bezel diagnostic tests, DISREGARD this DTC . This test is used for end of line or repair bay testing at the Ford plant. Each plant has its own assigned frequency and signal strength requirements. The running and passing of this test depends on local radio stations. If no local station is broadcasting on the required frequency, the test will fail. B1A89:11 Satellite Antenna: Circuit Short To Ground For a satellite radio concern, GO to Pinpoint Test B For a SIRIUS Travel Link concern, GO to Pinpoint Test C For a navigation concern (if equipped), GO to Pinpoint Test AB For a compass concern, GO to Pinpoint Test AC B1A89:13 Satellite Antenna: Circuit Open For a satellite radio concern, GO to Pinpoint Test B For a SIRIUS Travel Link concern, GO to Pinpoint Test C For a navigation concern (if equipped), GO to Pinpoint Test AB For a compass concern, GO to Pinpoint Test AC B1D19:49 Compact Disc Unit: Internal Electronic Failure GO to Pinpoint Test Y B1D19:4B Compact Disc Unit: Over Temperature GO to Pinpoint Test Y U0100:00 Lost Communication With ECM/PCM "A": No Sub Type Information GO to Pinpoint Test AE U0140:00 Lost Communication With Body Control Module: No Sub Type Information GO to Pinpoint Test AF U0155:00 Lost Communication With Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) Control Module: No Sub Type Information GO to Pinpoint Test AH U0253:00 Lost Communication With Accessory Protocol Interface Module: No Sub Type Information GO to Pinpoint Test AI U0256:00 Lost Communication With Front Controls Interface Module “A”: No Sub Type Information GO to Pinpoint Test AJ U0257:00 Lost Communication With Front Controls / Display Interface Module: No Sub Type Information GO to Pinpoint Test AK U201A:51 Control Module Main Calibration Data: Not Programmed This DTC sets due to an incomplete or incorrect ACM PMI . CHECK the vehicle service history for recent service actions related to the ACM . If there have been recent service actions with the ACM , INSTALL As-Built data from Professional Technician Society (PTS), following the diagnostic scan tool instructions under Module Programming>As-Built. REFER to: Module Configuration - System Operation and Component Description (418-01 Module Configuration, Description and Operation). If there have been no recent service actions, the ACM has failed to retain configuration data. INSTALL a new ACM . REFER to: Audio Front Control Module (ACM) (415-00A Information and Entertainment System - General Information - Vehicles With: AM/FM/CD/SYNC, Removal and Installation). U2100:00 Initial Configuration Not Complete: No Sub Type Information This DTC sets due to an incomplete or incorrect ACM PMI . CHECK the vehicle service history for recent service actions related to the ACM . If there have been recent service actions with the ACM , INSTALL As-Built data from Professional Technician Society (PTS), following the diagnostic scan tool instructions under Module Programming>As-Built. REFER to: Module Configuration - System Operation and Component Description (418-01 Module Configuration, Description and Operation). If there have been no recent service actions, the ACM has failed to retain configuration data. INSTALL a new ACM . REFER to: Audio Front Control Module (ACM) (415-00A Information and Entertainment System - General Information - Vehicles With: AM/FM/CD/SYNC, Removal and Installation). U2101:00 Control Module Configuration Incompatible: No Sub Type Information This DTC sets due to an incomplete or incorrect ACM PMI . CHECK the vehicle service history for recent service actions related to the ACM . If there have been recent service actions with the ACM , INSTALL As-Built data from Professional Technician Society (PTS), following the diagnostic scan tool instructions under Module Programming>As-Built. REFER to: Module Configuration - System Operation and Component Description (418-01 Module Configuration, Description and Operation). If there have been no recent service actions, the ACM has failed to retain configuration data. INSTALL a new ACM . REFER to: Audio Front Control Module (ACM) (415-00A Information and Entertainment System - General Information - Vehicles With: AM/FM/CD/SYNC, Removal and Installation). U3000:41 Control Module: General Checksum Failure CLEAR the DTC . WAIT at least 10 seconds. REPEAT the self-test. If DTC U3000:41 is retrieved again, INSTALL a new ACM . REFER to: Audio Front Control Module (ACM) (415-00A Information and Entertainment System - General Information - Vehicles With: AM/FM/CD/SYNC, Removal and Installation). U3000:42 Control Module: General Memory Failure CLEAR the DTC . WAIT at least 10 seconds. REPEAT the self-test. If DTC U3000:42 is retrieved again, INSTALL a new ACM . REFER to: Audio Front Control Module (ACM) (415-00A Information and Entertainment System - General Information - Vehicles With: AM/FM/CD/SYNC, Removal and Installation). U3000:96 Control Module: Component Internal Failure CLEAR the DTC . WAIT at least 10 seconds. REPEAT the self-test. If DTC U3000:96 is retrieved again, INSTALL a new ACM . REFER to: Audio Front Control Module (ACM) (415-00A Information and Entertainment System - General Information - Vehicles With: AM/FM/CD/SYNC, Removal and Installation). U3003:16 Battery Voltage: Circuit Voltage Below Threshold GO to Pinpoint Test AL U3003:17 Battery Voltage: Circuit Voltage Above Threshold GO to Pinpoint Test AM If Forscan reveals any Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) present in the ACM that require additional Pinpoint Test diagnostics, report back here and I will supply any needed Test(s). Related Workshop Manual sections are attached below as PDF documents... Good luck! Information and Entertainment System - 9-Speaker System Operation and Component Description - 2017 Edge Workshop Manual.pdf Information and Entertainment System - 9-Speaker System Component Location - 2017 Edge Workshop Manual.pdf Information and Entertainment System - Bezel Diagnostics - 2017 Edge Workshop Manual.pdf Audio Front Control Module (ACM) - Removal and Installation - 2017 Edge Workshop Manual.pdf Front Display Interface Module (FDIM) - Removal and Installation - 2017 Edge Workshop Manual.pdf Front Controls Interface Module (FCIM) - Removal and Installation - 2017 Edge Workshop Manual.pdf 2017 Edge Workshop Manual - Module Configuration - System Operation and Component Description.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted November 12 Report Share Posted November 12 May not do any good, but you could run an self diagnostic mode on the speakers. Radio on, switch to AM or FM. On vehicles with an audio control panel: Simultaneously press and hold the on/off button and the seek down button until the bezel diagnostics mode is entered. The Speaker Walk-Around Test begins and the display indicates each speaker as it is tested. On vehicles without an audio control panel: Simultaneously press and hold the stering wheel switch seek left button and the steering wheel switch volume down button until the bezel diagnostics mode is entered. The Speaker Walk-Around Test begins and the display indicates each speaker as it is tested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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