bivacci Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 Hi guys, it's my first time here, I am interested in buying a ford edge from 2015 and up with the duratec 35 (3.5L Natural Aspirated Engine) and with Front Wheel Drive, what should I look for when searching for one? How can I avoid the water pump issue? If I bought one, should I change the water pump immediately if the service history of the car is unknown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 Welcome. Looks like you've done your homework and already know about the internal coolant pump, and yes change it ASAP if there's no record. Personally, I'd look at something that doesn't have this coolant pump issue. Also do transmission, PTU and RDU fluid changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabangsta Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 How many miles are on it? I only have 140,000 miles on my current 3.5 powered vehicle (2012 Fusion Sport), but unless it has 200,000 miles, I wouldn't consider a water pump change a scheduled or a normal replacement item, and pay between $2000-$4500 to have it changed before it shows some indication of an issue. I had over 180,000 miles on my last 3.5 powered car and never had an issue with the water pump. I check my coolant and oil once a week at least, I don't have the under engine plate so I would see coolant on the ground. I have maintained the cooling system a little more than I normally would but not too much so. Most water pumps will eventually fail during the lifetime of a vehicle. This one is internal to the front cover, and has a couple of additional gaskets. Most leaks will go out weep holes in the cover and be externally visible (like if the bearing/seal fails), but for sure there are failure modes that will dump coolant into the crank case, and if not caught immediately will take out the engine. FWD would be transmission only, no PTU or rear diff/RDU, but if you look at others that are AWD for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bivacci Posted October 19 Author Report Share Posted October 19 1 hour ago, 1004ron said: Welcome. Looks like you've done your homework and already know about the internal coolant pump, and yes change it ASAP if there's no record. Personally, I'd look at something that doesn't have this coolant pump issue. Also do transmission, PTU and RDU fluid changes. Sure thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bivacci Posted October 19 Author Report Share Posted October 19 56 minutes ago, dabangsta said: How many miles are on it? I only have 140,000 miles on my current 3.5 powered vehicle (2012 Fusion Sport), but unless it has 200,000 miles, I wouldn't consider a water pump change a scheduled or a normal replacement item, and pay between $2000-$4500 to have it changed before it shows some indication of an issue. I had over 180,000 miles on my last 3.5 powered car and never had an issue with the water pump. I check my coolant and oil once a week at least, I don't have the under engine plate so I would see coolant on the ground. I have maintained the cooling system a little more than I normally would but not too much so. Most water pumps will eventually fail during the lifetime of a vehicle. This one is internal to the front cover, and has a couple of additional gaskets. Most leaks will go out weep holes in the cover and be externally visible (like if the bearing/seal fails), but for sure there are failure modes that will dump coolant into the crank case, and if not caught immediately will take out the engine. FWD would be transmission only, no PTU or rear diff/RDU, but if you look at others that are AWD for sure. I don't know yet, I just made a basic search online for the prices, might be like between 40000 - 70000 miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garycrist Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 Automobiles are a "Crap Shoot". You may even use loaded dice and slide them too, but in the end they can bite you with some out of the blue problem. Something like a rod bolt breaking or a piston skirt crack, real out of the blue unforeseen failures. Buy it, enjoy it and don't worry about it. (215,000 miles on our 08 with only minor maintenance and OE belts ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bivacci Posted October 19 Author Report Share Posted October 19 3 hours ago, garycrist said: Automobiles are a "Crap Shoot". You may even use loaded dice and slide them too, but in the end they can bite you with some out of the blue problem. Something like a rod bolt breaking or a piston skirt crack, real out of the blue unforeseen failures. Buy it, enjoy it and don't worry about it. (215,000 miles on our 08 with only minor maintenance and OE belts ). Does it depend on my driving behavior like driving like a maniac vs driving normally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabangsta Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 1 hour ago, bivacci said: Does it depend on my driving behavior like driving like a maniac vs driving normally? I am sure that being easier on it (not going to red line every shift, letting it shift early, not sustained high rpms for a long time, etc), in a moderate environment helps a lot. I drive mine like I stole it, every stop light, every stop sign, every entrance onto the interstate is full throttle (really put that AWD to the test). I also live where we had 112 days of 100+ degrees, 48 of 105+ this year, so it can't be great on cooling systems or oiling, or transmissions. I don't drive my Edge much and it is the first vehicle I have had that as had a pretty early big failure (transmission at 90k miles), I tend to maintain them but drive them closer to their limits than most. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bivacci Posted October 19 Author Report Share Posted October 19 49 minutes ago, dabangsta said: I am sure that being easier on it (not going to red line every shift, letting it shift early, not sustained high rpms for a long time, etc), in a moderate environment helps a lot. I drive mine like I stole it, every stop light, every stop sign, every entrance onto the interstate is full throttle (really put that AWD to the test). I also live where we had 112 days of 100+ degrees, 48 of 105+ this year, so it can't be great on cooling systems or oiling, or transmissions. I don't drive my Edge much and it is the first vehicle I have had that as had a pretty early big failure (transmission at 90k miles), I tend to maintain them but drive them closer to their limits than most. I see, which oil viscosity did you use on these temperatures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garycrist Posted October 20 Report Share Posted October 20 The 3.5L motor Ford put into the Edge is the same engine they used in the 24 hours of Le Mans with different pistons putting out 650 HP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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