murky024 Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 So it seems like my turbo is starting to "act up" After driving 3.5 hours one way to see totality of the solar eclipse, my car was WAY down on power and threw a P0299 code. Unfortunately I didnt have my OBD2 scanner with me at the time so I couldnt log boost but it felt like there was 0 and it was "all motor". This morning, I cleared the codes and logged data and saw boost hitting ~10psi or so at max. So, it seems like my P0299 is intermittent which leads me to believe its gunked up waste gate or something along those lines. Anyone have suggestions on how best to try and clean or resolve this? Car is low mileage (82,000) as I work from home and we rarely use it because of our family size. I keep up with regular maintenance, with regular fluid changes and synthetic only oil since 8,000 miles as I bought it lightly used in 2013. I haven't done intake valve cleaning yet but I am planning to do that soon and put on a oil catch can. If anyone has recommendations for the 2012 as I know that first-gen Ecoboost is a little unique for Edge models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 the turbo vehicles i work on have started presenting with this problem, and so far its been the vacuum diaphragm that actuates the wastegate control that fails. no longer holds vacuum, so it does not pull the flap shut to force all flow through the turbine. different brand & model but worth a look as a first thing to eliminate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murky024 Posted April 11 Author Report Share Posted April 11 (edited) 22 hours ago, Cerberus said: the turbo vehicles i work on have started presenting with this problem, and so far its been the vacuum diaphragm that actuates the wastegate control that fails. no longer holds vacuum, so it does not pull the flap shut to force all flow through the turbine. different brand & model but worth a look as a first thing to eliminate Thanks, I will put it up on ramps to see if I can actuate it manually or with vacuum. I am curious about catch can install for those with experience on this 2012 ecoboost. The little I know about these engines is 2012 was unique for the Edge as in 2015+ they had a new revision. Will the catch cans for the later models work on the 2012, following similar instructions? Edit: I edited the date as I think the edge moved to 2015 for open-deck... Edited April 11 by murky024 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murky024 Posted April 22 Author Report Share Posted April 22 (edited) Ok, so I did the turbo swap, intake cleaning, and new valve cover gaskets while I was in there... My problem was the waste gate. Even when the actuator was closed the waste gate could flap open because of the slop in the arm connecting the waste gate. I tried to drop the turbo without taking the axle out, but it was made so much easier to drop the axle as it gave so much room. I also needed to buy a new Dorman V-Band clamp Part# 903301, as the Ford one was too narrow for the Mahle turbo. I am guessing they beefed up the turbo flange thickness after mine was built (9/2011). I recommend having a M14x1.5 tap and die set around as I had to chase and clean out the threads of the block and banjo bolt for the coolant feed line. I will also add I bought and installed the J&L Oil Separator catch can. You can't follow their install instructions as its for a 2015+ but the bracket was easily used to mount on a bolt holding the air intake duct to the rad support. Edited April 22 by murky024 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59panman Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 Sharing my Turbo Experience. 2012 FORD SEL Ecoboost 2.0l. I live in CA. My car was giving me the P0299 Code. I ended up purchasing a turbo from eBay just to get the "Wastegate Section" the "Thin One" since my Edge is a 2012 with the -A Turbo. I got a quote from Ford for the Turbo, which is now the "Thicker" "Wastegate Section" the -H revision. In turn, I would need to purchase a new Catalytic Converter to mate up with the revised waste gate section, at an additional cost of $2,000! So, I sent off my Edge Turbo to Turbo Re-source in Lake Havisu, AZ. Rebuilt Turbo was $780 plus shipping. I also had the ebay turbo shipped to Turbo Re-source. They mated the waste gate section up to my rebuilt Turbo and set the waste gate linkage to specs. The turbo is totally rebuilt and blueprinted. I want to say that Tom and his team have been the best to deal with. They had my Turbo rebuilt and shipped back to me in 7 days! Super friendly and went above and beyond with all of my questions. I contacted Borg-Warner directly and were referred to them. Borg Warner also suggested BECS Turbo in Whittier, CA. I also spoke to a technician Art Saldana. I had the turbo taken out by my mechanic and reinstalled. I am having an intermittent "Over Boost" code now, P0234. It happened on the same street/hill we drove up in the same spot twice. The first code I had my mechanic clear it. The second time it cleared itself within a few days. No issues except on the one hill we went up. I need to have it checked to pull all the codes. Maybe we can pin point the issue with one of the sensors? Any suggestions? Are the sensors reachable with the turbo still in the vehicle. Estimated cost to diagnose and replace a sensor? Ford wanted around $5,500 to replace turbo, catalytic converter which included labor. I had my turbo rebuilt and donor EBay turbo for the waste gate section and R&R labor for $2,750. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 Welcome to the Forum @59panman! Turbocharger-related component illustrations from the 2012 Edge Workshop Manual... From the Ford Powertrain Control/Emission Diagnosis Manual for 2012 Ford Gasoline Engines... Pinpoint Test HN, and other supporting sections from 2012 Edge Workshop Manual and 2012 Edge Wiring Resource are attached below as PDF documents... Good luck! Turbocharger - Description and Operation - 2012 Edge Workshop Manual.pdf Turbocharger System - Diagnostic Pinpoint Test HN - Ford PC-ED Manual for 2012 Gasoline Engines.pdf Turbocharger Wastegate Vacuum Sensor - Wiring Diagram.pdf WASTEGATE VACUUM SENSOR - Connector C1644 Pins-Circuits Details - 2.0L EcoBoost - 2012 Edge.pdf WASTEGATE VACUUM SENSOR - Connector C1644 Location - 2.0L EcoBoost - 2012 Edge.pdf Turbocharger Wastegate Regulating Valve Solenoid and Bypass Valve - Wiring Diagram - 2.0L EcoBoost - 2012 Edge.pdf TURBOCHARGER (TC) WASTEGATE REGULATING VALVE SOLENOID - Connector C1246 Pins-Circuits Details - 2,0L EcoBoost - 2012 Edge.pdf TURBOCHARGER (TC) WASTEGATE REGULATING VALVE SOLENOID - Connector C1246 Location - 2.0L EcoBoost - 2012 Edge.pdf TURBOCHARGER BYPASS VALVE (TCBY) - Connector C1650 Pins-Circuits Details - 2.0L EcoBoost - 2012 Edge.pdf TURBOCHARGER BYPASS VALVE (TCBY) - Connector C1650 Location - 2.0L EcoBoost - 2012 Edge.pdf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59panman Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 Haz, Thank you! I will read over what you provided. Do the Check Engine error codes stay in the vehicles computer even if the Engine error codes are clear with a scanner? Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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