johnmarkp Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 I love most everything about my 2019 ST. The bumpy ride at low speeds does get to be a pain. I am pretty sure that the shocks from a Lincoln Nautilus will fit my car. While adding the full Nautilus active suspension is theoretically possible, the cost and degree of difficulty are high. I am wondering if I could add just the adjustable shocks? What I don't know is how they are controlled. Most likely by adjusting the shock dampers using variable voltage. If I could get the voltage range, I could create the control system to vary the shock ratio. Does anyone know which system they use on the shocks? I am sure that the service manual would include this information. Thanks in advance. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 You will also need the module that'll control the adaptive dampers and ride hight sensors for each corner. Shocks alone would not be "adaptive" without the software controlling them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) The Vehicle Dynamics Control Module (VDM) processes an impressive array of inputs to do its job... Document download links> Vehicle Dynamic Suspension - System Operation and Component Description - 2019 Nautilus Workshop Manual.pdf Vehicle Dynamic Suspension - Component Location - 2019 Nautilus Workshop Manual.pdf Vehicle Dynamic Suspension - Wiring Diagram, Cell 041 Page 1 - 2019 Nautilus Workshop Manual.pdf Vehicle Dynamic Suspension - Wiring Diagram, Cell 041 Page 2 - 2019 Nautilus Workshop Manual.pdf Vehicle Dynamic Suspension - Wiring Diagram, Cell 041 Page 3 - 2019 Nautilus Workshop Manual.pdf Vehicle Dynamics Control Module (VDM) - Connector C4396C Details - 2019 Nautilus Workshop Manual.pdf Vehicle Dynamics Control Module (VDM) - Connector C4396D Details - 2019 Nautilus Workshop Manual.pdf Vehicle Dynamics Control Module (VDM) - Connectors C4396C & C4396D Location - 2019 Nautilus Workshop Manual.pdf Vehicle Dynamics Control Module (VDM) - Removal and Installation - 2019 Nautilus Workshop Manual.pdf Vehicle Dynamic Suspension - Diagnosis and Testing - 2019 Nautilus Workshop Manual.pdf Front Suspension Height Sensor - Removal and Installation - 2019 Nautilus Workshop Manual.pdf Front Strut and Spring Assembly - Removal and Installation - 2019 Nautilus Workshop Manual.pdf Rear Suspension Height Sensor - Removal and Installation - 2019 Nautilus Workshop Manual.pdf Rear Shock Absorber - Removal and Installation - 2019 Nautilus Workshop Manual.pdf Good luck! Edited April 23, 2023 by Haz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmarkp Posted April 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 Haz, Thanks. Getting the full system to work would take a lot of work. Not sure if it can even be turned on in software on an Edge. I could still do a dumb system that only changes the shock damping if I can figure out the voltage used and the PWM range. Probably 12 volts. Maybe some brave forum member has this on their Lincoln and can measure the voltage with an oscilloscope.I am not holding my breath. I will try and find a shock somewhere to play with. I can use an Arduino to create the PWM signal. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 Reading the System Operation & Component Description, it is interesting to know that even the fuel level is considered in the Adaptive Suspension calculations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted May 7, 2023 Report Share Posted May 7, 2023 If you're considering manual, why not just go with air shocks. Lot cheaper and old technology. Want a stiffer ride, just pump them up (and don't forget a mouth guard). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmarkp Posted May 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 I have done some research in this and I think it can be done. This would be for the adjustable shocks only, not the full adaptive setup. I did confirm that they use a 12 volt PWM system. Most likely this can be replicated with an Arduino and the their motor shield. I am trying to find a shock at a junk yard to use as a test bed. I would take it apart and work on moving the solenoid. New ones are over $200. I am not sure how to non-destructively test it. Maybe a long lever to see how difference frequencies and PWM affect the damping. This is not an ideal way to do the testing. Anyone have a better idea how to test this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmarkp Posted April 26 Author Report Share Posted April 26 I finally bought a new shock from China for a reasonable price. I am hopeful that it functions properly. I have not found anyone who will let me hook up an oscilloscope to their adaptive suspension equipped vehicle. Still I think I can make some headway. I plan on making a jig to hold the shock which allows me to compress it and then time how long it takes to bully extend. Once that is done I will just start testing values. From what I have read they are probably using a fairly low frequency for the PWM. I will start with 200 Hz and 50% duty cycle and see what happens. It could take many tests to determine values that work. Luckily I am retired, so time it not the issue. I will report back on my progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmarkp Posted April 27 Author Report Share Posted April 27 I got the shock. It looks like the quality is OK. But who can tell from the outside. I measured the resistance of the actuator and it is within spec. The 4.2 ohms measured would yield ~3 amps at full load. So 50% will yield ~ 1.5 amps. From what I read I think that 2 amps is the max it should draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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