debbyzog Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 I recently bought a 2020 Edge SE which is a base unit but has a technology package. I didn’t care about leather seats but I did want CarPlay and a bigger screen, so this is a perfect fit. First time it rained, I put the wipers on “intermittent “ and they seemed to do whatever they wanted, including turning off. My assumption was that the wiper switch was bad so I spent $84.00 for a new one. It took about 1/2 hour to install the new part into the steering column. Unfortunately, the results were exactly the same. So, I figured that the wiper relay was bad, so I bought one for another $8.00. Once again, I had random wiper operation on any setting of the intermittent switch. Frustrated, I read the owners manual and found that my car had the “rain sensing wiper” option. I found that there is a setting to turn “rain sensing” on or off. Upon checking the settings on the dash, I found it ON. So, I turned it OFF and all my problems were solved. I feel sooo dumb!!!! Hail to the owners manual! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben senise Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 always, always, always RTFM on another note, i have never driven a car where the rain sensing system works as well as i would expect it to, including my edge. they wipe when they don't need to and don't wipe when they need to. i've checked everything but the results are still not satisfactory. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabangsta Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 The 2020 SE has no packages, it comes standard with the 8 inch SYNC 3 unit and front rain sensing wipers. I also think that I would have been okay with an SE as I got used to SYNC 3 and CarPlay/Android Auto, but the SEL had enough of the additional standard and options that I like it, I would love HD radio and the better B&O radio, the forward sensing system, acoustic side windows, etc, but with the Assist+ and Convenience Packages, I get close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 (edited) Edge Workshop Manual partial diagnostic Pinpoint Test relating to Rain Sensor/Windshield Wiper effectiveness... F5 CHECK THE WINDSHIELD FOR DAMAGE Ignition OFF. Inspect the windshield glass for any cracks, pits or other visible damage around the area of the rain sensor. Is any windshield damage present near the area of the rain sensor? Yes INSTALL a new windshield. REFER to: Windshield Glass (501-11 Glass, Frames and Mechanisms, Removal and Installation). No GO to F6 F6 CHECK THE WINDSHIELD GLASS FOR STREAKING Ignition ON. Turn the wiper/washer switch to the low speed wiper setting and while applying water to the windshield surface. Observe the wipe quality, especially around the area of the rain sensor. Is any streaking present on the windshield around the area of the rain sensor? Yes GO to F7 No GO to F9 F7 CHECK THE WINDSHIELD WIPER BLADES FOR STREAKING Ignition OFF. Clean the windshield glass with glass cleaner. Clean the wiper blades with isopropyl alcohol swabs. Wipe the entire length of the wiper blades. Ignition ON. Place the wiper/washer switch to the low speed wiper setting and while applying water to the windshield surface. Observe the wipe quality, especially around the area of the rain sensor. Was there noticeable improvement in the wipe quality after cleaning the glass and the wiper blades? Yes GO to F8 No INSTALL new wiper blades. GO to F8 F8 RECHECK THE RAIN SENSITIVE WIPERS OPERATION Place the wiper/washer switch to the auto/intermittent 5 setting (most sensitive to moisture) while applying water on the windshield above the rain sensor. Do the wipers operate when water is applied to the windshield surface? Yes The system is operating correctly at this time. The concern may have been caused by poor wipe quality on the windshield around the rain sensor. No GO to F9 F9 CHECK FOR THE PRESENCE OF THE LENS GEL Ignition OFF. Lightly press the rain sensor against the windshield and release the rain sensor clips. Does the rain sensor remain adhered to the windshield? Yes ATTACH the retaining clips. GO to F10 No The sensor gel-type lens is missing or damaged. INSTALL a new rain sensor. REFER to: Rain Sensor (501-16 Wipers and Washers, Removal and Installation). F10 INSPECT THE RAIN SENSOR MOUNTING AREA NOTE: The rain sensor gel-type lens can be damaged or contaminated during rain sensor removal, rain sensor bracket separation or incorrect installation. From the outside of the vehicle, inspect the area of the windshield glass where the rain sensor is mounted. The rain sensor contact area should appear black, with no bubbles, air pockets or contaminants between the windshield glass and the rain sensor. Does the rain sensor contact area appear black, with no bubbles, air pockets or contaminants between the windshield glass and the rain sensor? Yes GO to F11 No REMOVE and INSTALL the rain sensor correctly. REFER to: Rain Sensor (501-16 Wipers and Washers, Removal and Installation). Document download link> Rain Sensor - Removal and Installation - 2020 Edge Workshop Manual.pdf Interior Rear View Mirror - Removal and Installation - 2020 Edge Workshop Manual.pdf Good luck! Edited January 1, 2023 by Haz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben senise Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/1/2023 at 11:35 AM, Haz said: Edge Workshop Manual partial diagnostic Pinpoint Test relating to Rain Sensor/Windshield Wiper effectiveness... Good luck! thanks for this info, i'll give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perblue Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) Using your warranty would have saved you money and possibly time also. Edited January 5, 2023 by Perblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debbyzog Posted January 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 11 hours ago, Perblue said: Using your warranty would have saved you money and possibly time also. Yep….if I had a warranty I would have used it. I’m not a dummy!!! Good grief 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perblue Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 5 hours ago, debbyzog said: Yep….if I had a warranty I would have used it. I’m not a dummy!!! Good grief You have over 60k miles on it? It was built before december 2019, I know some are? Otherwise pretty safe to figure you'd have some factory warranty on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabangsta Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 How would a powertrain warranty cover wipers? Bumper to Bumper is 3/36k. Either way, I think they just were just venting on a misdiagnosis and some out of pocket costs associated with it, and turned it into a learning experience. I am maybe 30% into the features my SEL has that my 2017 Escape didn't have, and that last 1% that I don't know about are the toughest ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perblue Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 5 hours ago, dabangsta said: How would a powertrain warranty cover wipers? Bumper to Bumper is 3/36k. My mistake was thinking it was 60k miles or 3 years, but being a 2020 it still could have been under 3/36k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saile888 Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 (edited) Thanks for sharing your experience, good to know. Edited October 20, 2023 by saile888 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeman Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 Rain sensing wipers ?. Hate them. First thing I turn off on any car I get that has them. Always wipe when not needed and fail to wipe when needed. As you may be able to tell "Not a fan" lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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