My Stage 3 turbos are in!

[EDGE.R]

Just got them in 

Hope to get them start this week

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So far I have 91 Livernois tune and H&R Spings with 295/35/21 Michellins all around

 

[dolsen]

Nice! I wanna see the results!!

[Xtra]

Please be careful, the LMS tune is not calibrated for your new turbos and can cause severe engine damage. UrbanFree recently destroyed his 2.7EB by running an LMS tune with a modified engine. I recommend that you get a custom tune and not mess around with LMS. The LMS tunes are great for stock cars. They are NOT designed for cars with modified aftermarket turbos. Contact Adam at ZFG  he can help you tune the car. 

Here is the thread:

 

Edited October 6, 2020 by Xtra

[EDGE.R]

2 hours ago, Xtra said:

Please be careful, the LMS tune is not calibrated for your new turbos and can cause severe engine damage. UrbanFree recently destroyed his 2.7EB by running an LMS tune with a modified engine. I recommend that you get a custom tune and not mess around with LMS. The LMS tunes are great for stock cars. They are NOT designed for cars with modified aftermarket turbos. Contact Adam at ZFG  he can help you tune the car. 

Here is the thread:

 

good point...maybe I should get it back to factory set up until I get the dyno tune ready but I hope to have the tuner ready once done

[EDGE.R]

18 hours ago, EDGE.R said:

good point...maybe I should get it back to factory set up until I get the dyno tune ready but I hope to have the tuner ready once done

Just finish talking to them and told me that.

 

[Xtra]

Even with the factory tune please be careful, keep it below 5,000RPM, and do not stress the engine. Before I got my tune in I ran the stock tune and the fuel-air mix was lean because the new turbos move so much more air. I cannot stress enough about being conservative until you get that tune in it sorted out. 

Edited October 6, 2020 by Xtra

[EDGE.R]

18 hours ago, Xtra said:

Even with the factory tune please be careful, keep it below 5,000RPM, and do not stress the engine. Before I got my tune in I ran the stock tune and the fuel-air mix was lean because the new turbos move so much more air. I cannot stress enough about being conservative until you get that tune in it sorted out. 

Ill drive like a old lady till I get the tune but, hoping to have that lined up afterinstall since there are no tuners for this cars near by. closest one is about 2 hours away here in orlando.

 

[onyxbfly]

1 hour ago, EDGE.R said:

Ill drive like a old lady till I get the tune but, hoping to have that lined up afterinstall since there are no tuners for this cars near by. closest one is about 2 hours away here in orlando.

 

 

I can not begin to emphasize to you that you can not use LMS to tune your vehicle. They "should" only tune your vehicle if its on their dyno, none of their off the shelf tunes are compatible with your new turbos. 

 

You should buy  the HPTuners MPVI2. With HPTuners you are not limited to one tuner. BCB, ZFG, Unleashed etc can use the HPTuner interface.   

 

Unleashed and ZFG will give you the quickest turn around time once you submit your stock tune.  Once they have  your stock tune they will provide you with an introductory tune that will compensate for your new turbos flow rate. 

 

After a few logs and back and forth correspondence you will be dialed in. 

 

 

[EDGE.R]

39 minutes ago, onyxbfly said:

 

I can not begin to emphasize to you that you can not use LMS to tune your vehicle. They "should" only tune your vehicle if its on their dyno, none of their off the shelf tunes are compatible with your new turbos. 

 

You should buy  the HPTuners MPVI2. With HPTuners you are not limited to one tuner. BCB, ZFG, Unleashed etc can use the HPTuner interface.   

 

Unleashed and ZFG will give you the quickest turn around time once you submit your stock tune.  Once they have  your stock tune they will provide you with an introductory tune that will compensate for your new turbos flow rate. 

 

After a few logs and back and forth correspondence you will be dialed in. 

 

 

I will put it back to stock no worries.

 

 

[EDGE.R]

FINALLY GOT THE TUNER LINED UP just need to figure out the day to start tearing everything out at the shop...

[97novi2k]

Which turbos are those? Im Getting ready to install my stage 3s but I’m also going E85. I’m using ZFG for the tuning 

[EDGE.R]

19 hours ago, 97novi2k said:

Which turbos are those? Im Getting ready to install my stage 3s but I’m also going E85. I’m using ZFG for the tuning 

CR PERFORMANCE 

STAGE 3

Performance 6+6 Blade 40.6m/50.8mm CR Billet Compressor Wheel

[97novi2k]

Those are the same ones I ordered l except I went new. Mine are going in next Wednesday 

[EDGE.R]

 

On 10/9/2020 at 1:30 PM, 97novi2k said:

Those are the same ones I ordered l except I went new. Mine are going in next Wednesday 

nice

 

I just got my intercooler in the mail...?

[Xtra]

On 10/8/2020 at 12:26 PM, 97novi2k said:

 Im Getting ready to install my stage 3s but I’m also going E85. I’m using ZFG for the tuning 

 

The stock injectors and HPFP reach their limit with E85 and a tune. The HPFP can have pressure fluctuations trying to keep up with the demand, and injector life will be shortened considerably.  The safest and best way to run E85 is with the Xtreme DI HPFP and new larger injectors. Snmjim & Special_K are testing and working on bringing the new larger E85 injectors to market now.

Edited October 15, 2020 by Xtra

[19EdgeSTeve]

On 10/14/2020 at 3:57 PM, Xtra said:

 

The stock injectors and HPFP reach their limit with E85 and a tune. The HPFP can have pressure fluctuations trying to keep up with the demand, and injector life will be shortened considerably.  The safest and best way to run E85 is with the Xtreme DI HPFP and new larger injectors. Snmjim & Special_K are testing and working on bringing the new larger E85 injectors to market now.

 

So the edge can safely run e50-e70 with no upgrades?

[97novi2k]

I guess we shall see. Right now I’m tuning with E90, stock injectors, and XDI HPFP and so far so good. Pulls like crazy lol

[Xtra]

I don't know the answer to that, all I know is what I told you about E85. 

Edited October 19, 2020 by Xtra

[97novi2k]

Got my tune done but no dyno numbers yet. With the E85 and stage 3 turbos the car moves lol. Turbos were a nice upgrade and spool quick

[CrackedDSM]

Keep us updated.  I've been talking with LMS lately about the CRP/CPE upgraded turbos and E85.  They've agreed that once I get the parts installed, I'll drop the car off so they can custom tune mine, and then make canned tunes for this for others so alls you'll need is their tuner and away you go.  I'm very curious what your ET/Trap speed is/what numbers you get as this is on my upgrade plans too.  Upgraded intercooler, solid intake/IC pipes, heat wrap everything, CRP Turbos and E85.  F150 2.7 guys put down 550hp on upgraded turbos and E85(granted theres are a little bigger compressor wheel) so 500awhp shouldn't be too out of the question for us.  My only concern is the PTU and Transmission.  

[Perblue]

1 hour ago, CrackedDSM said:

Keep us updated.  I've been talking with LMS lately about the CRP/CPE upgraded turbos and E85.  They've agreed that once I get the parts installed, I'll drop the car off so they can custom tune mine, and then make canned tunes for this for others so alls you'll need is their tuner and away you go.  I'm very curious what your ET/Trap speed is/what numbers you get as this is on my upgrade plans too.  Upgraded intercooler, solid intake/IC pipes, heat wrap everything, CRP Turbos and E85.  F150 2.7 guys put down 550hp on upgraded turbos and E85(granted theres are a little bigger compressor wheel) so 500awhp shouldn't be too out of the question for us.  My only concern is the PTU and Transmission.  

 

I strongly suggest, many others on here will to, to go with zfg tuning instead. Maybe you will be ok with taking it to their dyno but their rep outside of a stock tune upgrade has not been great with these engines.

[bryantgbell]

On 10/30/2020 at 5:13 PM, CrackedDSM said:

Keep us updated.  I've been talking with LMS lately about the CRP/CPE upgraded turbos and E85.  They've agreed that once I get the parts installed, I'll drop the car off so they can custom tune mine, and then make canned tunes for this for others so alls you'll need is their tuner and away you go.  I'm very curious what your ET/Trap speed is/what numbers you get as this is on my upgrade plans too.  Upgraded intercooler, solid intake/IC pipes, heat wrap everything, CRP Turbos and E85.  F150 2.7 guys put down 550hp on upgraded turbos and E85(granted theres are a little bigger compressor wheel) so 500awhp shouldn't be too out of the question for us.  My only concern is the PTU and Transmission.  

 

Did you wind up going with LMS and have it dyno tuned at their facility? 

[Special_K]

On 10/30/2020 at 5:13 PM, CrackedDSM said:

Keep us updated.  I've been talking with LMS lately about the CRP/CPE upgraded turbos and E85.  They've agreed that once I get the parts installed, I'll drop the car off so they can custom tune mine, and then make canned tunes for this for others so alls you'll need is their tuner and away you go.  I'm very curious what your ET/Trap speed is/what numbers you get as this is on my upgrade plans too.  Upgraded intercooler, solid intake/IC pipes, heat wrap everything, CRP Turbos and E85.  F150 2.7 guys put down 550hp on upgraded turbos and E85(granted theres are a little bigger compressor wheel) so 500awhp shouldn't be too out of the question for us.  My only concern is the PTU and Transmission.  

 

i would steer clear of LMS like the plague, been down your road, im going to say that you will dyno about 470~485awhp with supporting mods on E.  best of luck

[WWWPerfA_ZN0W]

@CrackedDSM did you ask if they would warranty their dyno/tune on other people's parts?  normally they do not.  just to be aware of whether you are on your own if something bad happens (G** forbid).