fastback89 Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 I apologize if this topic has been beat to death but just wanted to be certain of the Forscan codes to turn off Auto Start Stop on my 20 ST. I have not found anyone who has successfully done this on a 2020, I'm assuming it's the same as a 19 but just wanted to be sure. Thanks for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoking Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 If I do it, on our new 2020 Edge ST will be with this. https://www.autostopeliminator.com/products/2019-ford-edge-autostop-eliminator?variant=27561606807616 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 It’s not a big deal if you just let it work for a few weeks. You’ll forget it’s there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txaggie Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 11 hours ago, Snoking said: If I do it, on our new 2020 Edge ST will be with this. https://www.autostopeliminator.com/products/2019-ford-edge-autostop-eliminator?variant=27561606807616 Did this the first week I owned the car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingernip Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) I love the stop start feature. I even will roll down the windows and endure a bit of heat rather than run the A/C and have climate control force an early re-start while sitting at a traffic light. Ill sit and hold the brake down rather than put it in park when dropping off a passenger for a quick errand too. Tip: To avoid the auto stop and restart when shifting to park just turn off the car without going to park. it will automatically shift into park. Edited July 2, 2020 by Fingernip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoking Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, fastback89 said: I apologize if this topic has been beat to death but just wanted to be certain of the Forscan codes to turn off Auto Start Stop on my 20 ST. I have not found anyone who has successfully done this on a 2020, I'm assuming it's the same as a 19 but just wanted to be sure. Thanks for your help Careful with Forscan as it turns off the advanced charging program that these new Fords use. Edited July 2, 2020 by Snoking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastback89 Posted July 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 10 hours ago, Snoking said: Careful with Forscan as it turns off the advanced charging program that these new Fords use. I knew it disabled the BMS, I was not aware of the charging system issue. I did this on my 18 Raptor and have never experienced any problems. I'll just leave it go until I research this further. Again, thanks for your response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMiFo Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 On 7/2/2020 at 11:04 AM, Snoking said: Careful with Forscan as it turns off the advanced charging program that these new Fords use. That video is not true. You only disable the BMS if that's how you program the car... If you don't know what you are doing, sure that's when undesirable things happen. But as someone who understands how vehicle systems and communication works, plugging a random device into my car's network is the last thing I would ever do. Having some random programmer send broadcast messages startup is how you confuse the car and have "odd" behaviors - properly disabling the stop/start features via FORScan or UCDS is not the 'wrong way'. Do your research everyone, don't believe what one out-of-touch shop says. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handfiler Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 On 7/2/2020 at 8:01 AM, akirby said: It’s not a big deal if you just let it work for a few weeks. You’ll forget it’s there. Since installing the Autostop eliminator I have forgotten its there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FINFAN3DP Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 On 7/1/2020 at 9:47 PM, Snoking said: If I do it, on our new 2020 Edge ST will be with this. https://www.autostopeliminator.com/products/2019-ford-edge-autostop-eliminator?variant=27561606807616 Got my new 2020 Edge ST yesterday, and already ordered this today! Thanks everyone! Freaking autostop is annoying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, FINFAN3DP said: Freaking autostop is annoying! Almost as annoying as people who complain about it without even trying it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handfiler Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 3 hours ago, FINFAN3DP said: Got my new 2020 Edge ST yesterday, and already ordered this today! Thanks everyone! Freaking autostop is annoying! Congratulations on your new purchase. The Autostop Eliminator is an excellent product. So is the Edge ST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perblue Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 2 hours ago, akirby said: Almost as annoying as people who complain about it without even trying it. Agreed. I don't even notice it anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perblue Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) Wow some people. Yep totally bad idea to not have a car idling when it doesn't need to be and keep some money in your pocket. Edited August 2, 2020 by akirby Political comment removed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handfiler Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Ya and it can turn into a shit show when someone decides to bring politics into the discussion. That has no place in an automotive forum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 4 hours ago, handfiler said: Ya and it can turn into a shit show when someone decides to bring politics into the discussion. That has no place in an automotive forum. Agreed. Political comments deleted. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 Good for you control freaks....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanquished Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 On 7/2/2020 at 9:01 AM, akirby said: It’s not a big deal if you just let it work for a few weeks. You’ll forget it’s there. It is a big deal. This feature sucks. It has already messed up my steering wheel because I turned the wheel when the car was "off" and now it makes a click when I turn the wheel. 2k miles on the clock. If you're going to introduce a stupid feature like this that doesn't provide any benefit, it should be foolproof. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 An alternate was was found on the F-150 to disable Auto Start/Stop using ForScan without having to disable the BMS. Can't try it as my Edge doesn't have auto start/stop. 730-01-02 xxxx xxxx x*xx Start/Stop change * to: 0=disabled, 1=enabled This is the Post from the F-150 forums. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoking Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) On 7/4/2020 at 8:48 AM, DaMiFo said: That video is not true. You only disable the BMS if that's how you program the car... If you don't know what you are doing, sure that's when undesirable things happen. But as someone who understands how vehicle systems and communication works, plugging a random device into my car's network is the last thing I would ever do. Having some random programmer send broadcast messages startup is how you confuse the car and have "odd" behaviors - properly disabling the stop/start features via FORScan or UCDS is not the 'wrong way'. Do your research everyone, don't believe what one out-of-touch shop says. The Auto Stop button is NOT a can bus device. I installed the Auto Stop Eliminator a while back and love it. I had an issue after they tried to reflash my trailer module for the running lights coming/staying on when the vehicle was off. So I contacted them and here is their answer. Hi Chris, I'm sorry to hear about the issue with the Edge. No, I'm confident our device is not related to these issues. The AE003 is a simple analog device, not a CAN device. When you press the auto start/stop button on your vehicle, it mechanically touches a signal wire with 12v to a ground wire. The signal wire goes from 12v to ground to tell the vehicle to toggle the auto start/stop. Our device just does the same thing. It takes the signal wire and momentarily connects it to ground to toggle the start/stop. If start/stop isn't toggling, then the device isn't actively doing anything. It sounds like the tech missed a step that is causing the U2100 code (Initial Configuration Not Complete). Anytime this code is present, the start/stop will be disabled. It's how these vehicles are programmed and has nothing to do with our device. This is why when the device was removed, nothing changed. Travis Lambert TRL Automotive Edited June 12, 2021 by Snoking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanDookie54 Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 There is a small wire attached to the negative battery cable near the post with a clip. Disconnect that and your problem is solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 15 hours ago, VanDookie54 said: There is a small wire attached to the negative battery cable near the post with a clip. Disconnect that and your problem is solved. And your battery management system no longer works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben senise Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 it's great that people have opinions that they share here. what isn't great is denigrating other people's opinions because they're not the same as yours. in principle, the start/stop feature is honorable; reduce emissions. but where it is actually working against that goal is in my scenario. i've got stop signs every few blocks until i reach a main road. so this "feature" stops and, more crucially, starts a cold engine every few blocks. it's cold here in the winter so i'm not crazy about starting a cold engine a half-dozen times simply because i come to a complete stop at a stop sign for literally half-a-second. i installed the eliminator because of this. if i come to a stop that might be a while then i simply press the button which disables it and the engine shuts down as designed. my guess is that my engine pollutes a lot less remaining on than getting shut down for a total of 2 or 3 seconds when it's cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanDookie54 Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 8 hours ago, akirby said: And your battery management system no longer works. And neither does the stop start.. as I said, problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC_ST Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 Bought this and have to install this weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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