DrivingofftheEdge Posted October 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 Actually my cans are mounted between the rad fans and the intake cover. I sent james at RXP a schematic of how everything is ran and it's how he says to run it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handfiler Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, DrivingofftheEdge said: Actually my cans are mounted between the rad fans and the intake cover. I sent james at RXP a schematic of how everything is ran and it's how he says to run it I'm at a loss to explain why you're not finding anything collecting in can. It just doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted October 10, 2020 Report Share Posted October 10, 2020 8 hours ago, DrivingofftheEdge said: Actually my cans are mounted between the rad fans and the intake cover. I sent james at RXP a schematic of how everything is ran and it's how he says to run it That may not be the coolest location, but let's see what James has to say. They are the pros, LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivingofftheEdge Posted October 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2020 I showed him the pictures of the installation and he didnt say anything about where they were mounted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivingofftheEdge Posted December 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 UPDATE: So it's been about 3 months. Up until 3 weeks ago there was nothing going into either can. I talked to james at RXP and we tried a couple of ideas to figure out what the problem was. Tried turning the check valves to face upwards. Didnt help. He asked if I had springs in both check valves and that's when I said uhhh what springs? So......he shipped me out the springs that should've been in the check valves. After 3 weeks, I finally had alittle fluid collecting in the large can, the little can.........not so much. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 On 10/9/2020 at 5:28 PM, handfiler said: Sketch up a schematic of your plumbing and send it to Team RXP for commentary. Something is obviously amiss. Personally I'd be reluctant to use such a complex system on my cars. It all seems good in theory but those check valves scare me. They are required on a 3 port can but if they ever fail they can cause problems. 16 hours ago, DrivingofftheEdge said: UPDATE: So it's been about 3 months. Up until 3 weeks ago there was nothing going into either can. I talked to james at RXP and we tried a couple of ideas to figure out what the problem was. Tried turning the check valves to face upwards. Didnt help. He asked if I had springs in both check valves and that's when I said uhhh what springs? So......he shipped me out the springs that should've been in the check valves. After 3 weeks, I finally had alittle fluid collecting in the large can, the little can.........not so much. @handfiler hit the nail on the head. Good to hear that you got it sorted and shame on Team RXP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivingofftheEdge Posted January 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 I sent james a schematic and he said everything looks good. I'm just waiting for his reply to my recent email. I'd hate to take this system off because of a lack of communication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivingofftheEdge Posted January 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 Ok well......... cant get a hold of James at RXP. So I'll ask the community for ideas. This is the schematic I sent to him a few months ago. The only part that is a bit of a question mark is the port on the rear of the valve cover. Some people I see plug it off and put a filter on the fitting on the side of the small can. There doesnt seem to be any straight forward instructions on the 2.0 with the new dual can set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivingofftheEdge Posted December 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2023 2017 edge with a 2.0. Found oil in the compressor pipes going from the turbo to intercooler,in the intercooler and the pipe going under the engine. Took it all apart once, cleaned everything about a year later it's got oil in it again. I have the team xrp double can catch can kit. Needless to say, there is never any oil or liquid of any kind in it. WTF is going on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handfiler Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 You've had issues with this setup for 3+ years. All of that oil collecting in the IC and pipes leads me to think that you have excess crankcase pressure building up. I don't trust that overly complex setup with the one way check valves. Maybe consider a simpler setup like the J&L separator. I have them installed (between PCV valve and the intake on both vehicles now and they defiantly collect oil over time. The exit port, charge pipes and IC are dry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivingofftheEdge Posted December 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 Do you think it matters if it's mounted high or low in the engine bay? You're right this system has been a pain in my ass since day 1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) My J&L CC is about the same height as the PCV valve on my 2.7L and works as @handfiler mentioned above. I would not mount the CC higher than the PCV - gravity would be working against it. Edit: or the CC higher than the PCV would result in nothing getting up to it or past it, but if that theory is correct the how is the oil getting to the areas you've reported. Edited December 26, 2023 by 1004ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivingofftheEdge Posted December 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 The problem on the 2.0 is the pcv is on the side of the engine between the intake and block so I would have to mount the catch can close to the bottom of the bumper somewhere. I figured since most of what comes out of the pcv is vapors it shouldn't matter if it's high or low. It's just riding the engine vacuum, shouldn't be sucking oil out then the vapor condenses in the catch can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) I just checked my JLT/J&L catch can and it was 3/4 full of a condensate oil mix. Mine is about 6" higher than the PCV. If yours isn't collecting anything, particularly in winter, then contact the supplier for answers, or you could contact J&L to see if they have something for your model. https://sbfilters.com/collections/oil-separators I see the install on the 2.0L is a little more work - need to pull the intake manifold back. Edited December 27, 2023 by 1004ron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivingofftheEdge Posted December 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 I guess this over priced team rxp set up is junk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 28 minutes ago, DrivingofftheEdge said: I guess this over priced team rxp set up is junk? It does appear so. I google search for reviews indicates that many are happy with the RXP. For continuity threads were merged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uspc40 Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 I got my 2020 ST last August, roughly 20k miles on it. Is an oil separator really necessary? People seem to like the J&L, just wondering if this is necessary, or just engine bling..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 2 hours ago, uspc40 said: I got my 2020 ST last August, roughly 20k miles on it. Is an oil separator really necessary? People seem to like the J&L, just wondering if this is necessary, or just engine bling..... I have the J&L and have to empty it every couple months, particularly in cooler weather which helps the vapors condense in the CC whether it is necessary..? that's a harder thing to answer. I'd say its a good thing for keeping some garbage out of the intake tract 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txaggie Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 Totally agree with Cerberus. I empty mine every 1000miles and it has about as much as what his picture shows. I added the JLT unit the first week I bought it (2019 ST with 56k miles). Pretty sure I don't want all of that liquid going back into the motor, so for the price and ease of installation and maintenance, I consider it money/time well spent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STBEAST Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 I was hoping you guy could point me in the right direction. I went on the J&L website. Looks like they are mostly for Mustang's and wondered what specific model to get. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, STBEAST said: I was hoping you guy could point me in the right direction. I went on the J&L website. Looks like they are mostly for Mustang's and wondered what specific model to get. Thanks I checked my email from the time I purchased and its the JLT Model: 3031P-B https://www.amazon.com/JLT-Separator-Passenger-Anodized-Ecoboost/dp/B07GJX14QK https://www.jlosc.com/jl-3-0-oil-separator-passenger-side-2015-2020-edge-sport-st-lincoln-mkx-2-7l-ecoboost/ Edited February 17 by 1004ron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STBEAST Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 Well unfortunately It cannot be shipped to California due to our CARB regulations. What a bunch of BS! Not sure if someone makes a CARB compliant oil catch can or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 I'm sure there are work-around's such as dropshipping I've used drop box shipping a long time ago, but it wasn't to CA. https://www.dropbox.com/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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