JonThunderbolt Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 On 6/6/2021 at 4:16 PM, 1004ron said: Completed the Mustang upgrade this weekend. Hello, thank you for your help and kindness. I see you upgraded from a 4.2 inch screen. I intend to do the same on my 2014 Edge SE. I’ve purchased everything I need for the sync 3 upgrade including the wiring harness. My problem is I don’t know the location of the sync module in the 2014 Edge SE. I’ve searched online and looked under the dropped glove box to no avail. The factory harness/plug-in that goes into the back of my 4.2 inch screen does not fit the purchased harness receptacle(too small, see attached photo 1). I watched a video from 4D tech similar upgrade for 2015-18 and the purchased harness plugs in at the sync module, located under the glovebox, but this module isn’t present under my 2014 SE glovebox, or I have not been able to locate it there yet. I removed the glovebox but found nothing similar/no module, at least to the bet of my observation. Also took out the radio(ACM) and there isn’t any separate sync module in the center dash. I see that the 4inch screen appears attached to some plastic part similar to the APIM attachment in models factory equipped with the 8inch screen. Is that the APIM for the SE and the only “sync module” on the SE?? I just need to locate the module with the plug-in that goes into the conversion harness illustrated as sync 1 module on the 2nd attached picture and I can handle the rest. Thanks for helping. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 31 minutes ago, JonThunderbolt said: Is that the APIM for the SE and the only “sync module” on the SE?? The APIM is the aluminum part that attaches to the back of the 8" screen. Amazon.com: SYNC 2 to SYNC 3 Upgrade Kits for Ford Edge, Wireless Carplay SYNC 3.4 Interface Module 8-Inch Capacitive Touch Screen APIM Module, GPS Navigation : Electronics Post a photo of your new screen with the APIM. 4D Tech | Ford Upgrades, Replacements & Accessories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonThunderbolt Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 Thanks for your kind and prompt response. The first picture attached below is the back of my current 4inch screen. The 2014 Edge SE model does not have the type of APIM that is attached to the back of the 8inch screen(on SEL and ltd/sport models). If it does have a similar APIM, it is not attached to the back of the 4inch screen. The 2nd pic is the Sync 3 APIM and screen I want to install. The space in the back of the 4inch screen shown in photo is where the small harness plug-in, in my initial picture inserts into. What I need to find is where the large harness receptacle, shown besides the 4inch screen plug-in above, (ie in my very first photo) should plug into. In this 4D tech video, that module is located under the glove box in the 2015+ models. I did not find any such modules or plug-in under my glovebox when I removed it to look under the dash. The item, where 4D tech plugs in the conversion harness under the glovebox is what I need to find in my 2014 SE model. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonThunderbolt Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) Back of my 4inch screen, the picture was not posted successfully in previous post Edited January 12, 2022 by JonThunderbolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr061 Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, JonThunderbolt said: Back of my 4inch screen, the picture was not posted successfully in previous post Does your 14 even have base SYNC? Edited January 13, 2022 by 1004ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonThunderbolt Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 It has sync 2 according to Ford, ie SYNC with MYFORD. It has the same sync version as that in the SEL of same model year, except for the touchscreen. THANKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr061 Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, JonThunderbolt said: It has sync 2 according to Ford, ie SYNC with MYFORD. It has the same sync version as that in the SEL of same model year, except for the touchscreen. THANKS Thats not sync2, sync2 is MyFord Touch, but anyway...does your car currently have BT? Edited January 13, 2022 by 1004ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonThunderbolt Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 Yes, it has bluetooth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr061 Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 6 hours ago, JonThunderbolt said: Yes, it has bluetooth. Then you have SYNC which is good start. I can't find any kits for going from the 4" to 8" for the 11-14 Edge. I am thinking the APIM is buried in the center console then and any retrofit cable would have to be very long which is why no one may offer a kit. I can't find any info on where the APIM is located so you may have to check with a Ford dealer or get yourself a Ford service manual to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 JonThunderbolt who did you buy the conversion harness from? - they should be able to confirm that its suitable for your model, and where the old APIM is located. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onyxbfly Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 @TXFRDOwner Can make you the correct harness for you. Point your browser in this direction for more info on the 4"to 8" conversion. http://www.2gfusions.net/showthread.php?tid=4050 HTH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 On 6/19/2021 at 5:50 AM, onyxbfly said: I can't speak to the level of your technical proficiency, Originally you had to download all the files individually and compile the install script etc.. Someone decided to build a better mouse trap! Here is a link to an site that will do all of that for you. All you need to do is follow their directions and have your USB drives ready....... Personally I don't have any personal experience with it, but there are tons of users that are thrilled with it.... https://cyanlabs.net/applications/syn3-updater/ thanks for this. I just did my update to 3.4, it was nerve-wracking but ultimately easy as heck and painless I'm not worried about radio icons and such, so i probably won't play with doing the new calibration on the APIM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonThunderbolt Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 Thanks. The fusion equipments look similar to mine. My APIM is not located where that in the fusion is, so I may have to take the console apart to find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonThunderbolt Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 I took the center console apart today. Opened the right ie passenger panel and top and rear. Couldn’t see any APIM there. I could not open the driver side center/floor console panel cos i would have needed to take out the chair for better access. Please could you find any diagrams or manual information describing the location of the APIM in the base model? Please someone help me locate this APIM. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 On 1/13/2022 at 7:11 AM, 1004ron said: JonThunderbolt who did you buy the conversion harness from? - they should be able to confirm that its suitable for your model, and where the old APIM is located. 1 hour ago, JonThunderbolt said: I took the center console apart today. Opened the right ie passenger panel and top and rear. Couldn’t see any APIM there. I could not open the driver side center/floor console panel cos i would have needed to take out the chair for better access. Please could you find any diagrams or manual information describing the location of the APIM in the base model? Please someone help me locate this APIM. Thanks If you bought it from a reputable source, they should be able to assist with vehicle specific queries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr061 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 On 1/14/2022 at 2:39 PM, JonThunderbolt said: I took the center console apart today. Opened the right ie passenger panel and top and rear. Couldn’t see any APIM there. I could not open the driver side center/floor console panel cos i would have needed to take out the chair for better access. Please could you find any diagrams or manual information describing the location of the APIM in the base model? Please someone help me locate this APIM. Thanks You can purchase short term access to the service manual via motorcraftservice.com and if you can't figure that out pay someone to look it up for you and send the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonThunderbolt Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Thanks! Found the location. I have to take out the floor console to find it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonThunderbolt Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 Update finally done. It was a lil hectic. The entire floor console was removed. The APIM is buried under the HVAC duct as shown above. Both front seats were also removed for ease of access. 1. The OEM sync harness is too short to reach the back of the new APIM. Pull through the right side underneath the front display trim panel and right side of the ACM, it will reach just above the ACM. Connect the harness extension to the OEM harness and plug it to the sync 3 APIM. Your new sync USB will be connected using the same route. Discard the old USB. You would need a new USB hub inside the armrest compartment. You would also need a new harness extension kit. Just plug in only the APIM connection. Cut off the rest of it, ie the harness extensions to the bezel, ACM. If you need video camera input, buy a harness with a camera input. Already in reverse, I see camera not available. I will provide further updates after I install my camera. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 6/19/2021 at 5:50 AM, onyxbfly said: https://cyanlabs.net/applications/syn3-updater/ Quote I'm now on Sync 3.4 and maps updated from NA 1 18 to NA 2 20 I'm going to repeat the update and hopefully get a later map version with better routing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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