1004ron Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 On 6/2/2020 at 6:06 PM, 14AWD3.5 said: Back again. Borrowed a set of ramps (actually were old style steel and really too high, probably 9-10’” of lift), the pan was tilted backwards so I backed the car down 1/2 way on the ramps, chocked the rear tires and that leveled it out. Then pulled the trans plug bolt. That’s a small bolt, fooled me (7/16” I think). I was expecting a lot larger, like 5/8 maybe. Then drained 5 qts, I only had 4 qts of Mercon LV but found 1 qt of Mercon L from a p steering fluid change so in it went. I should be about 85-90% changed now, this is easier once you have the ramps figured out. And it is still cheaper than the dealer. I will just make by own 2x8”or 2x10” wood ramps, a lot lower height though. Not wise to mix the fluid types. https://www.cartechbooks.com/techtips/autotransfluid#:~:text=Mercon LV—the latest Ford,used to replace those fluids. Quote Mercon LV—the latest Ford ATF, it is factory fill in 2008 and later Fords. The LV stands for "low viscosity." It is a fully synthetic ATF. It is not compatible with earlier Mercon fluids, so it should neither be mixed with Mercon or Mercon V used to replace those fluids. It is not compatible with any other fluid, either. I don't believe that only one Drain-Fill gives you 85-90% change - how did you arrive at those numbers. I would not climb under a vehicle while is half way up the ramps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14AWD3.5 Posted January 2, 2021 Report Share Posted January 2, 2021 Regarding the 85-90% statement, I had already siphoned out multiple quarts so by draining from the pan bolt that made something like 15 qts having been drained and refilled. As far as the ramps, they were some industrial version (as opposed to the WalMart variety) from the auto mechanic across the street. It was all I could do do to lift and carry one of them at a time. Mixing fluid, well, guess I’m no purist. A 1/12 qt ratio doesn’t really bother me. It’s being redrained from the bolt within a month anyway. But I do appreciate all your concerns. I’m more concerned with the power steering pump whine I now get since I siphoned out and refilled 3x (after bleeding). The whine won’t go away. Maybe it takes after its owner, I dunno’. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjej Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 how should i go about doing this A. drain and fill once, and leave it (so i drain like 5qt with a warm trans, then fill with 5 qt) and just do this each 30k miles B. drain out as much as i can, fill the amount that was drained (so i drain 5qt, fill 5qt), and drive the car to warm the trans up and repeat until ive drained out ~12qt ive seen mixed opinions. this is a car with 146k miles and i have NO clue when the trans fluid was last changed, but it's brown now and definitely needs changing. but besides that, is there another way i should go about doing this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 7 hours ago, Sjej said: how should i go about doing this https://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/30312-8f35-fluid-change-tips/?tab=comments#comment-223013 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjej Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 13 hours ago, 1004ron said: https://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/30312-8f35-fluid-change-tips/?tab=comments#comment-223013 i appreciate it but i havent really been able to find a clear answer. i have the '10 with a dipstick. i think i am just going to drain and fill sometime next week, give it a few months and repeat until i've exchanged all the fluid. but i wont do it all at once, maybe like a month in between. thats all im getting from these threads. fluid is pretty brown, idk about the smell. also to the mod who moved my post i appreciate it, i didnt find this thread when searchin lol but its very helpful it is slipping ocasionally so i do not wanna risk making it worse by exchanging all 12qt of fluid in one day. this slipping is only when its cold and it's usually just once per drive. ive never had it happen more than once. im hoping its nothing worse than that... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLARD000 Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) On 11/20/2022 at 8:30 PM, Sjej said: ...havent really been able to find a clear answer ...'10 with a dipstick ...going to drain and fill ...repeat until i've exchanged all the fluid ..wont do it all at once, maybe like a month in between ...fluid is pretty brown ...slipping ocasionally so i do not wanna risk making it worse by exchanging all 12qt of fluid. Your plan sounds reasonable; I would drain+refill at least 4 times to get rid of that old brown ATF. Draining+filling Tranny on these is easy+quick; definitely should be done every 4yrs\33kMiles. Recommend using a premium FullSynthetic MerconV compatible ATF like AmsOil# SSMVS.ATF1g. Consider using 1qt of Lucas Transmission Fix. Also consider disconnecting battery for 15min, then reconnecting & driving conservatively to let PCM relearn tranny shift points. Edited November 23, 2022 by DILLARD000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 On 4/8/2020 at 2:23 PM, Cerberus said: I had a similar problem with slotted rotors on my old 2011 Fusion sport. I figured out that it was the slotting of the rotor that was causing the noise, it sounded somewhat like a bad wheel bearing or flat spotted tire but only while on the brakes. Don't be surprised if the new ones do the same thing.. You're right, the new replacement rotors did the same and I stuck it out longer than I should have and now have solid high carbon rotors and very happy with them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjej Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 9 hours ago, DILLARD000 said: Your plan sounds reasonable; I would drain+refill at least 4 times to get rid of that old brown ATF. Draining+filling Tranny on these is easy+quick; definitely should be done every 4yrs\33kMiles. Recommend using a premium FullSynthetic MerconV compatible ATF like AmsOil# SSMVS.ATF1g. Consider using 1qt of Lucas Transmission Fix. Also consider disconnecting battery for 15min, then reconnecting & driving conservatively to let PCM relearn tranny shift points. thank you, i will do so i use full synthetic, expensive but worth it to me. what does the transmission fix do? i also did disconnect the battery when installing a new intake the other day. no slipping since then, should i still do it each time i drain & fill? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLARD000 Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Sjej said: thank you, i will do so i use full synthetic, expensive but worth it to me. what does the transmission fix do? i also did disconnect the battery when installing a new intake the other day. no slipping since then, should i still do it each time i drain & fill? LucasTransmissionFix basicly is a viscocity additive; silightly thickens the ATF which helps transmission shift smoother\quicker. Click here for YouTube test of LTF; have seen several of this guys product reviews, seems honest enough. It's a judgement call; if the new ATF & BatteryReset has fixed problem to your satisfaction, I'd probably not use the Lucas; easy enough to add later. No, don't reset the Battery every time; if the shift points are where you like them, leave it alone. Edited November 24, 2022 by DILLARD000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjej Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 7 hours ago, DILLARD000 said: LucasTransmissionFix basicly is a viscocity additive; silightly thickens the ATF which helps transmission shift smoother\quicker. Click here for YouTube test of LTF; have seen several of this guys product reviews, seems honest enough. It's a judgement call; if the new ATF & BatteryReset has fixed problem to your satisfaction, I'd probably not use the Lucas; easy enough to add later. No, don't reset the Battery every time; if the shift points are where you like them, leave it alone. Ok good to know. I’m gonna go do my first drain and fill and disconnect the battery then take it on a test drive. If any slipping occurs with new fluid I will try the transmission fix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 In a couple of months I'll be at 92K miles and plan to do the second drain and fill of the transmission. Where's the best deal on fluid? Amazon 5qrt X 2 = $74.66 (incl shipping and tax). RockAuto 5qrt X 2 = $68.44 (incl shipping and tax). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruzr1 Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 I actually got my fluid at the dealer for $6 a quart which was cheaper than everyone else. I used the motorcraft ULV fluid for my vehicle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdabildr Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 On 9/22/2019 at 12:31 PM, erikrichard said: Ford's maintenance schedule says to replace fluid for the first time at 150k miles. Not sure if it's a good idea to wait so long, but there it is. I'd drain/refill without any hesitation whatsoever if I were you. I just changed my 2012 3.5 with 162,000 miles . I couldn't believe how brown it was. I think every 50,000 would be good. I'll wait just a bit and do it again. I've been doing a deep maintenance to get everything synced out. Drvrs side 1/2 axle. Oil. Trans fld. Pwr srng fld. 4 rotors and ceramic pads. Shalom 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 7 minutes ago, bobdabildr said: I just changed my 2012 3.5 with 162,000 miles . I couldn't believe how brown it was. I think every 50,000 would be good. I'll wait just a bit and do it again. I've been doing a deep maintenance to get everything synced out. Drvrs side 1/2 axle. Oil. Trans fld. Pwr srng fld. 4 rotors and ceramic pads. Shalom Welcome. What Model/Year/FWD/AWD ? - please add that to your profile signature - https://www.fordedgeforum.com/settings/signature/ Add to your list the PTU and RDU. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLARD000 Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 4 hours ago, bobdabildr said: I just changed my 2012 3.5 with 162,000 miles . I couldn't believe how brown it was. I think every 50,000 would be good. I'll wait just a bit and do it again. I've been doing a deep maintenance to get everything synced out. Drvrs side 1/2 axle. Oil. Trans fld. Pwr srng fld. 4 rotors and ceramic pads. Shalom If you got AWD, be sure to change the RDU gear oil and especially the PTU gear oil, at least every 50k miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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