edge purchase question

[wendal]

My son is looking at a ford edge for a college car.  

Are their any year he should stay away from?  Any features that have problems over time?

He was looking at a 2010 but it had 150k on it.  It is AWD.  I have read that the put gives some problems.  

he currently has a 97 F150.

Thanks for any advice

[WWWPerfA_ZN0W]

LONG post and surely incomplete, but I hope this helps and does not deter your quest ...

 

Start with looking at recalls and TSBs for any vehicle you do narrow down.  Summary information is available at the NHTSA site

https://www.nhtsa.gov/

and here

https://oemdtc.com

For recalls and customer satisfaction programs, also coupons for service and parts, using your VIN

https://owner.ford.com

 

Source of used parts: 

http://car-part.com/

new OEM parts that are "obsolete" can be obtained via a dealership or if you know the part number

https://www.rearcounter.com/

Other new parts sources are RockAuto, eBay, and Amazon.  Dealshopping at online dealer websites can also yield good results.  Start at parts.ford.com, different dealers will have different pricing,  but some of the best include:

https://parts.levittownfordparts.com/

https://www.tascaparts.com/auto-parts/ford/edge

https://parts.autonationfordwhitebearlake.com/

 

High mileage on the Edge is not an issue.  The issue is maintenance intervals.  The maintenance should be a] documented, and b] more rigorous than Ford specifications, especially for fluids - transmission, coolant, power steering, PTU/RDU (if applicable).  Plan on replacing all fluids, spark plugs, air filter, cabin air filter once you purchase.  Also if the vehicle has a Vista roof, it should have been cleaned and greased AT LEAST annually with the correct lubricant.

 

Generally recommended to get as new a vehicle within a generation as possible - more kinks have been worked, each generation will introduce its' own oddities - unavoidable.  Definitely consider the "twin" Lincoln MKX, it is a very nice ride.  And usually Lincoln dealers are better to work with as well, if you prefer dealer servicing.

Gen 1 (2007-10) - powertrain mostly, some issues with wheel bearings (rear ones especially)

Gen 1.5 (2011-14) - mostly electronics - APIM/stereo entertainment system/Sync2, door latch/ajar, shift switch, etc. - mostly within the realm of DIY'rs; brake booster, throttle body; rear brake calipers are more prone to seizing if not lubed/greased regularly, as they double as emergency/parking brake units.  So the calipers will sit locked in to the rotors for extended periods of time while the vehicle is not being driven.

Gen 2 (2015-18) - mostly seal-related on the body, for the 2.7L Ecoboost/Sport - also the oil pan seal, rarely the torque converter housing seal

Gen 2.5 (2019+)
 

Yes, with the AWD, you may inherit someone else's problems.  Even if it worked fine for them, their driving style/conditions may not match your son's.

 

Panoramic/Vista Roof/BAMR plagues all generations due to lack of maintenance, and sometimes faults in the glass that cause it to shatter spontaneously.  Be sure to have glass insurance of your own if you buy something with it.

 

If your son is handy/a DIY'r, regular maintenance on the Edge is generally quite straightforward.  The most involved jobs are water pump/timing chain on the 3.5/3.7, and turbo replacement on the 2.0L Ecoboosts.

Water pump/timing chain - 14 hours (more for rookies) - parts (OEM) will run about $6-700

PTU - 4 hours + (parts about $700)

Transmission TSS/OSS sensors (3.5/3.7) - 4 hours + (OEM parts about $100)

Turbo replacement (2.0) - not sure on hours - turbo is about $650

Panoramic/Vista Roof/BAMR - not sure on hours, tho parts alone can come to $3,000.  Might be able to get cheaper at Junkyards if need be.

Radiator fans - $250 or so OEM, plus literally 9 minutes of labor if you watch this video

 

And always consider purchasing a Ford warranty, even if just for powertrain.  I like peace of mind, so I got PremiumCare on my CPO 2007 Edge, and it has worked out great.  Sample the pricing here

https://www.lombardfordwarrantys.com/

 

Consider the cost of items such as new tires, brakes, etc.  Check closely for signs of rust.  The euphoria of "new" car buying can make you overlook many things.

 

 

Edited May 12, 2019 by WWWPerfA_ZN0W

[JAYQD]

52 minutes ago, WWWPerfA_ZN0W said:

Also if the vehicle has a Vista roof, it should have been cleaned and greased AT LEAST annually with the correct lubricant

I purchased a dry lubricant in anticipation of doing some maintenance on the Vista roof myself this fall, but can you elaborate on the specific lubricant that should be used if known?  By the way, that was quite the comprehensive reply to the OP!  I hope it's appreciated

[wendal]

Thank you WWWPerfA_ZN0W

Very much appreciated.

I ll look in to lube for the roof.

thanks again

[Perblue]

3 hours ago, JAYQD said:

I purchased a dry lubricant in anticipation of doing some maintenance on the Vista roof myself this fall, but can you elaborate on the specific lubricant that should be used if known?  By the way, that was quite the comprehensive reply to the OP!  I hope it's appreciated

 

My ford dealer recommended basically any dry Teflon lubricant. 

[wendal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-IErNktk7A

Not me but I found this video helpful.

[WWWPerfA_ZN0W]

dielectric grease works best for the vista roof, dry lubricants/teflon will not last as long.  as far as how the maintenance is done, you can see in detail here

 

[Perblue]

1 hour ago, WWWPerfA_ZN0W said:

dielectric grease works best for the vista roof, dry lubricants/teflon will not last as long.  as far as how the maintenance is done, you can see in detail here

 

 

Grease will collect dirt and whatever else that will stick that will end up compacted in the channel than if you use a dry teflon lubricant. It's the main reason I don't recommend a grease.

[WWWPerfA_ZN0W]

Personal choice I suppose   Regular maintenance remains the key.

[onyxbfly]

On 5/12/2019 at 7:45 AM, WWWPerfA_ZN0W said:

LONG post and surely incomplete, but I hope this helps and does not deter your quest ...

 

Start with looking at recalls and TSBs for any vehicle you do narrow down.  Summary information is available at the NHTSA site

https://www.nhtsa.gov/

and here

https://oemdtc.com

For recalls and customer satisfaction programs, also coupons for service and parts, using your VIN

https://owner.ford.com

 

Source of used parts: 

http://car-part.com/

new OEM parts that are "obsolete" can be obtained via a dealership or if you know the part number

https://www.rearcounter.com/

Other new parts sources are RockAuto, eBay, and Amazon.  Dealshopping at online dealer websites can also yield good results.  Start at parts.ford.com, different dealers will have different pricing,  but some of the best include:

https://parts.levittownfordparts.com/

https://www.tascaparts.com/auto-parts/ford/edge

https://parts.autonationfordwhitebearlake.com/

 

High mileage on the Edge is not an issue.  The issue is maintenance intervals.  The maintenance should be a] documented, and b] more rigorous than Ford specifications, especially for fluids - transmission, coolant, power steering, PTU/RDU (if applicable).  Plan on replacing all fluids, spark plugs, air filter, cabin air filter once you purchase.  Also if the vehicle has a Vista roof, it should have been cleaned and greased AT LEAST annually with the correct lubricant.

 

Generally recommended to get as new a vehicle within a generation as possible - more kinks have been worked, each generation will introduce its' own oddities - unavoidable.  Definitely consider the "twin" Lincoln MKX, it is a very nice ride.  And usually Lincoln dealers are better to work with as well, if you prefer dealer servicing.

Gen 1 (2007-10) - powertrain mostly, some issues with wheel bearings (rear ones especially)

Gen 1.5 (2011-14) - mostly electronics - APIM/stereo entertainment system/Sync2, door latch/ajar, shift switch, etc. - mostly within the realm of DIY'rs; brake booster, throttle body; rear brake calipers are more prone to seizing if not lubed/greased regularly, as they double as emergency/parking brake units.  So the calipers will sit locked in to the rotors for extended periods of time while the vehicle is not being driven.

Gen 2 (2015-18) - mostly seal-related on the body, for the 2.7L Ecoboost/Sport - also the oil pan seal, rarely the torque converter housing seal

Gen 2.5 (2019+)
 

Yes, with the AWD, you may inherit someone else's problems.  Even if it worked fine for them, their driving style/conditions may not match your son's.

 

Panoramic/Vista Roof/BAMR plagues all generations due to lack of maintenance, and sometimes faults in the glass that cause it to shatter spontaneously.  Be sure to have glass insurance of your own if you buy something with it.

 

If your son is handy/a DIY'r, regular maintenance on the Edge is generally quite straightforward.  The most involved jobs are water pump/timing chain on the 3.5/3.7, and turbo replacement on the 2.0L Ecoboosts.

Water pump/timing chain - 14 hours (more for rookies) - parts (OEM) will run about $6-700

PTU - 4 hours + (parts about $700)

Transmission TSS/OSS sensors (3.5/3.7) - 4 hours + (OEM parts about $100)

Turbo replacement (2.0) - not sure on hours - turbo is about $650

Panoramic/Vista Roof/BAMR - not sure on hours, tho parts alone can come to $3,000.  Might be able to get cheaper at Junkyards if need be.

Radiator fans - $250 or so OEM, plus literally 9 minutes of labor if you watch this video

 

And always consider purchasing a Ford warranty, even if just for powertrain.  I like peace of mind, so I got PremiumCare on my CPO 2007 Edge, and it has worked out great.  Sample the pricing here

https://www.lombardfordwarrantys.com/

 

Consider the cost of items such as new tires, brakes, etc.  Check closely for signs of rust.  The euphoria of "new" car buying can make you overlook many things.

 

 

 

This should be stickied!