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I have a 15 Edge with the 2.0. I've got a P1450 code and have traced it down to the evap purge valve under the hood. Problem is, I can't seem to find the PN for the replacement.

 

Tried the typical online parts sites, many of which show the cannister and valves in the back, but none seem to show this hose / valve under the hood. I went to the dealer, and they gave me BB5Z-9G271-B. This was not the right hose for my vehicle:

-the valve was a different design

-the valve bracket was different (90 degree bend, very short)

-the valve to splitter hose was 90 degrees (mine is fairly straight)

-it came with another T valve built in for 4 total hose connections (mine only has 3)

-hose lengths in front of the splitter had incorrect bends and were nowhere near the right length.

 

Any idea what the correct PN is? Car is out of warranty, and I don't want to pay to have it fixed as I've already found the problem and just need the part.

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Sometimes you have to fall back to parts.ford.com lol. If you have the base number, 9D289 in this case, that makes the task much easier. Base numbers tend to be the same at least for MYs close to the one your vehicle is. IDK if it stretches across decades of MYs tho :)

 

You can always post the request on the LevittownSuperCenter thread we have on this forum. Benny has always helped out.

http://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/10937-employee-pricing-on-all-parts-accessories/

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  • 7 months later...

Hi guys I have the exact problem and this part number is what I will replace too. But could you please help me how to reach the 2 tube cables under the engine. I can't get my hand into there. Do you use any special tools or did you have to remove more part to clear out the way. And did it solve your problem after replace this part. Thank you I appreciate it.

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We discovered the challenges of code P1450 just a few weeks ago, with another emissions related code, P2196, and drivability problems. The car would try to stall while in motion, my wife says it makes a groaning noise from the rear, but she could give it more gas to overcome the stall.  The CEL light would come on.

I pulled the code, which according to various sources, is the vapor canister purge valve. Once I located it, looked pretty simple to replace.  However, ours is a 2016 2.0 certified used with just 40k miles, so we gambled that either the powertrain or emissions warranty would cover it, and to it to the dealer.

They did not cover the repair, as it turns out, and we were shocked to face a $700 repair bill for what appeared to be a $35 part. As I learned, Ford no longer replaces just the valve but the valve, check valve, and the four tubes running to the other side of the engine.  Some on this forum have likely experienced the joy of replacing those.

You can find just the valve on eBay by crossing the original valve's Bosch part number, 0280142519, but valve's Ford number shows discontinued in the Ford parts book, and the correct Ford part number for the entire assembly is F2GZ-9D289-A. I could find no aftermarket source.

For do it yourselfers, there are a couple of YouTube videos showing the assembly installed in a Fusion. The Fusion assembly appears to have one fewer connection, however.

Since we are just out of certified bumper-bumper warranty, we are talking with Ford customer relations to get at least part of the cost covered. I would like to understand why Ford no longer replaces just the valve, and why so many vacuum connections?   Also, last year Ford recalled over a million Focus cars over a faulty purge valve. Sounds like they might have a problem with this part.

 

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  • 6 months later...

I'm just getting back into this subject but I am also facing the same troubles now on my 2016 Edge with 2.0L. 
 

I think I'll be doing this replacement as well and I agree it's a pain that there is so few resources to get this part for replacement other than from Ford directly. 
 

 

On 4/18/2020 at 9:44 AM, DsDad said:

You can find just the valve on eBay by crossing the original valve's Bosch part number, 0280142519, but valve's Ford number shows discontinued in the Ford parts book, and the correct Ford part number for the entire assembly is F2GZ-9D289-A. I could find no aftermarket source.

I'm glad to know you were able to just replace the valve and carry on. I'll be looking into doing exactly this to save on costs and overall headache.

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On 10/30/2020 at 10:37 AM, DsDad said:

Actually, Ford replaced it with the whole assembly. Fortunately, I was able to get them to cover it on the factory certified warranty, since we were just a month out and below mileage.  Cost us $100, they covered the other $700. Good luck.

 

Curious what the breakdown on the bill was to get it up to $700?

 

The part was only about $150 if I remember right, and it only took me (an average home handyman) about an hour to replace it, so I can't imagine book time is much beyond that.

 

 

To the other questions above, personally, if I had to do it again, I'd probably have cut apart the ties on the two lines Ford forces you to buy.  Since you're only replacing the valve which is on the 1 line, there's no need to replace the other besides it being wrapped together from Ford.  Would definitely save some labor replacing an otherwise good hose, and you could always stick it on the shelf for later if you need it.

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3 hours ago, DsDad said:

Ford did the valve and the hoses, the whole assembly.  I recall the breakdown was $150 for the part, and $650 for labor and diagnosis.  I was happy to pay them $100 to do the job.  If I had to do it myself, I would have just swapped the valve.

 

 

 

Wow, that labor is absurd!  That's got to be 5 or more hours total between diagnostic and install.   They sure make a good bit of money off the people coming in for that repair!

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On 11/1/2020 at 10:58 PM, Bumpin96monte said:

I'd probably have cut apart the ties on the two lines Ford forces you to buy.  Since you're only replacing the valve which is on the 1 line, there's no need to replace the other besides it being wrapped together from Ford.  Would definitely save some labor replacing an otherwise good hose, and you could always stick it on the shelf for later if you need it.

This is great news! 
 

Of course you still need to buy the entire octopus of hoses and valve but at least you don't need to absolutely make the effort to take all of the hoses out this way. 
 

Glad to know you had a decent experience replacing this and I'll be ordering the part soon so I can take care of this on our car soon. 
 

I hope that Ford is addressing this in their current or future models. 

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Just wanted to share my experience here as I just replaced the valve to clear the p1450 code.

 

I first started having issues with my gas gauge a while back, it was fluctuating all over the place, I could be sitting at a red light and watch it go from 3/4 full to 1/4 full before the light turned green, later it would slowly start climbing up.  Shortly after that the check engine light came in, code was p1450, only symptom I noticed was it took a couple of tries to start after filling the gas tank, otherwise seemed to run fine.  Today I finally got around to digging deeper,  verifies the purge valve was bad.  After I realized that you now need to purchase the whole assembly for about $140 instead of the just the valve for about $40 I was less enthusiastic.  I see Amazon sells the valve for  $25-$40 but reviews are mixed on those.  What I did find was the assembly for the 2015 fusion uses the same valve but has different hoses, but also is only $80 at the local auto parts store, and was in stock, since I already had it taken out I didn’t want to wait for a delivery for I bought the fusion assembly and figured I would just replace the valve.  It was actually really simple, I’m not much of a car guy but can be fairly handy then I need to.  The only thing that made it trick was the hose going from the purge to the check valve, it’s a rigid plastic tube that looks like it is heat shunk on the fitting,  I used a heat gun to warm it up enough to pull it off and push it on the new one, went pretty smooth,  I’m guessing it would be easier to just buy a different piece of tubing and used a hose clamp, that was my plan if the heat gun failed me.  Anyway whole thing took maybe 20 mins not including running to the store.

 

after driving it a bit the code cleared and check engine light is off.

 

now I’m reading about a recall from a while back for the focus, when the purge valve went bad the vacuum in the fuel tank would cause it to deform and cause issues with the fuel level reading, I really didn’t think the two issues I was having were related, but now I’m pretty excited to see if that issue cleared, I’ll have to drive it for a few days to know for sure because the gauge issue wasn’t consistent.  
 

one question I have if anyone knows.  Was the deformation to the plastic tank a permanent deformation, or would it go back to normal when the pressure normalized?

 

i’ll try to update when I decide if the fuel level issue is cleared up too.

 

maybe Ford needs to extend the recall to other models that apparently use the same bad parts.

 

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I'll add another data point - 

I have a 2015 2.0L Edge (~95k miles) that was experiencing a small evap leak (P0456) and unable to bleed up fuel tank vacuum (P1450). It was also struggling to crank after getting gas, so I narrowed it down to the purge valve needed to be replaced. 

 

Based on this thread, I decided to purchase only the valve from Amazon. 

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0855STNVD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

I used a heat gun to remove the broken valve, but I ended up damaging the hard tubing in the process. I ended up removing the ~6" piece of hard tubing and replaced it with some 3/8" I/D rubber hose from autozone with some hose clamps. 
 

https://www.autozone.com/plumbing-hosing/rubber-hose/p/continental-24in-x-3-8in-fuel-emissions-hose/534817_0_0

 

Not the most ideal fix, but Ford doesn't put you in the best spot when it comes to parts. So far, everything is working fine and the codes are staying clear. I'll update here if I end up having any issues with the valve or hose!

 

I appreciate the help from those above!

 

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