factor99 Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 I jack up the entire front or back of my FWD 2011 with a 3 ton floor jack. There is a bar across the back between the wheels, and there is a structural member under the engine. Done this many times without issue. There are plenty of structural points to put jack stands. Since I use winter tires on their own rims, I rotate the tires when I change them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWRBB Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 Once you work on cars long enough- it's obvious what can take the forces imparted from a jack or stands. Frame rails, engine and suspension cross members, control arms under the spring pocket, etc... Definitely intimidating for someone new to it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikrichard Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) Lots of places to put a jack, I just don't want to make any imprints or bend anything - this is definitely the heaviest unibody vehicle I've owned. I'll look for that way to lift the whole front, mine is awd but it should be the same up there. Edited September 4, 2018 by erikrichard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florafumi Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 (edited) On four-wheel drive and all-wheel drive vehicles, the recommended rotation pattern is a “Double X” so the right front and left rear tires switch positions as do the left front and right rear. https://www.tireindustry.org/tire-maintenance/tire-rotation But if you have directional tyres, you can only swap front to back, not from one side to the other x pattern or otherwise. Edited October 14, 2018 by Florafumi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 But if you have directional tyres, you can only swap front to back, not from one side to the other x pattern or otherwise. Do you have directional tires on your Edge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesavo Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) I too am looking for a guidance on jacking and lifting this vehicle. I guess we solved the Jacking point issue. We should Use a cut hockey puck or rubber pinch weld adapter. What are good Jack Stand location, besides, "there are plenty". Many owners have felt confused on where to find a appropriate lift point. I would think some senior member would be nice enough to clear this up with a pinned post on what "their" jack points and jack stand recommendations are. Edited January 15, 2019 by thesavo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
037 Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 2015+ vehicles have a clear jack point indicator not too far from the wheels on the pinch weld. I recommend the magnetic pucks as one of my points was bent out of shape through use of regular jacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesavo Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 What about Gen 1? I am working on a 2014. Once you use one of four pinch welds to jack up, What's the appropriate place for a jack stand. What do you all use.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Hello, I rotate front to back on same side. Have 58,000 miles on car and tires are all worn evenly. I rotate every 7,000 miles. I use a good floor jack, put it under the front sub frame behind the front tire. Jack entire side of car off ground. Do the same on other side of car. I don't see any reason to criss cross tires. Just my 2 cents. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWRBB Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 Criss cross allow the tire to spin the other way and the scalloping that happens at the front edge of the tread block gets corrected better if it spends 15,000 miles rolling the the opposite direction. If keeping them on the same side works for you though- then keep on keeping on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortechtral Posted April 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2019 On 9/4/2018 at 8:13 AM, factor99 said: I jack up the entire front or back of my FWD 2011 with a 3 ton floor jack. There is a bar across the back between the wheels, and there is a structural member under the engine. Done this many times without issue. There are plenty of structural points to put jack stands. Since I use winter tires on their own rims, I rotate the tires when I change them. If possible could you post some pictures, there are many things under the vehicle and I don't dare jack it up on something i'm not 100% sure it wont crumple. I don't regularly work on cars, so I don't have the knowledge others that work on theirs all the time. Pinch welds are just dumb, they bend so easy, even with slotted hockey pucks. Would like to know if a FWD and AWD have the same frame members to jack up from, would be a real breeze to jack then at least place the stands under the dreaded pinch welds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punman Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 On 7/8/2018 at 12:14 PM, Vortechtral said: Have a 2013 Edge, I know of the pinch weld areas to safely jack the vehicle up, however there really isn't any room to jack up and place a stand under the same area. I've taken a few different pictures to get some advice if these places would be suitable to a floor jack and/or jack stand placements. These pictures are rather large, and I don't know if they will place here well so I am going to simply add imgur links. This is the pinch weld area. The narrow but wide area (as denoted by the arrow) is the safe jacking point, but would love to know if the wide and narrow section beside it is also a safe area to place a jack stand? With how jack stands are, they are rather wide themselves however they fit really well in the larger section without touching the rocker panel. Both sections are super close to each other and look to be identical however would love to know before ruining something. https://imgur.com/M8QzT5s These next two are at the rear of the vehicle, the bolt is around the rear tire area, in front of it a tad. The second link is the starting of the control arm for the rear. That place to me doesn't look like the safest place to jack from just from shape and what not, but I could be mistaken. I saw a video where the guy jacked his up from under the control arm to place his stand in the pitch weld. Would love a central area to jack up, even this place I am posting isn't central at all, and will still make the vehicle cockeyed to one side making me jack twice to place stands on either side increasing the chances of rolling the pitch welds. https://imgur.com/DeNYtYB https://imgur.com/jchNZGu The last two are from the front. The first is what I would be to be the sub frame, I don't know if this would be a suitable place to jack from, however in some videos people say sub frames are strong and are places to jack from, again I don't want to do something before consulting, don't want to destroy my vehicle. The second is closer to the rear of the front wheel, (you can see from the first the same area for the second image) has a nice large bolt coming from it so should be a nice area to jack from to then place a stand under the closest pitch weld, however I don't know if it's central enough to raise the car on both sides to place a stand on either end at the same time. I also assume jacking from the bolt end would be rather bad, so using a spacer so the jack doesn't make direct contact with bolts would be suitable? https://imgur.com/bdzq8Zl https://imgur.com/lBwsDOI Any info or pictures would be greatly appreciated. I plan on doing a full brake job this Wednesday coming up, and any info would be greatly appreciated. The service manual clearly references a few times to “support the lower control arm with a floor jack”. So there you have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flymore Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 Gearing up for my first tire rotation on my new to me 2018 Edge AWD Titanium. The owners manual indicates there are "arrows" that show the lift points, "9. The vehicle jacking points are depicted by arrows on the underside of the vehicle at the locations shown above." I'm not finding the arrows that indicate the lift points. The second question is the rotation pattern. The manual clearly states that for FWD and AWD vehicle use this pattern. There is another post that states for AWD vehicles you must use an X pattern where LR to RF and RR to LF. RF to LR and RR to LF. "On four-wheel drive and all-wheel drive vehicles, the recommended rotation pattern is a “Double X” so the right front and left rear tires switch positions as do the left front and right rear." https://www.tireindustry.org/tire-maintenance/tire-rotation Thanks for any help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txaggie Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 I have a floor jack and used the solid portion with the bolts just behind the fender well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flymore Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 Ok found the arrows. Took a bit of scrubbing! New problem - I took a piece of 4x4 and cut an indentation in it. But when i jacked up the car using the 4x4 it split the 4x4. Any suggestions on what to use? thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flymore Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, txaggie said: I have a floor jack and used the solid portion with the bolts just behind the fender well Thanks, I'll try that. What about the rear wheel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txaggie Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 hours ago, flymore said: Thanks, I'll try that. What about the rear wheel? For the rear, it wasn't as reinforced, but you are lifting much less weight. So I still put in on the rail close to the fender well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgetjq Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 If you're using a floor jack get one of these https://amzn.to/2PQCyIV . The slot fits over the pinch weld and adds a small amount of padding too. If you have a hockey puck laying around just cut a slot in it....freebie! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flymore Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 Ok, thanks that's great I have the lift points and the hockey puck for the jack, How do I lift the vehicle at the lift points then replace the jack with jack stands? The list points don't seem wide enough to allow for both the jack and jack stand. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 https://safejacks.com/products/the-rennstand-by-safe-jack-single-unit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txaggie Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, flymore said: Ok, thanks that's great I have the lift points and the hockey puck for the jack, How do I lift the vehicle at the lift points then replace the jack with jack stands? The list points don't seem wide enough to allow for both the jack and jack stand. Thanks I usually find a frame rail or solid point where the suspension mounts to when I place my jack stands. So while they are close to the jack, they are further in than the jacking rails Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmarkp Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 The title kind of says it all. The service manual says that you can only use the jack points on the body to jack the Edge. That is where I want to put the jack stands. Where is a good place(s) to use a floor jack to raise the vehicle to put it one stands? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 I use a pinch weld protector on my floor jack that I made from an ice hockey puck just rearward of the front jacking point, positioned so that it will lift that side up evenly, then place two jack stands with their pinch weld protectors at the two jacking points, move to the other side and do the same. Jack Stand Pads, Rail Pinch welds Protector Universal Jack Stand Pad Adapter Pinch Weld Side Frame Rail Protector 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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