tk2fast Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Does anyone else find it strange that Ford decided not to include paddle shifters on the 2019 Edge, except for AWD. I think it's essential to have, especially when driving mountain roads. If I'm wrong, please correct me. What is the consensus here??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cv27 Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 I have more faith in the Edge's transmission than my shifting reflexes, especially in 'S' mode. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk2fast Posted June 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) My driving includes 8% plus down grades that benefit greatly from a manual downshift. Otherwise I have to really "lay" on the brakes. Would the edge downshift on an 8% downgrade? Correct me if wrong, but I don't think so. If it was just normal driving that is more common, I would not be too concerned about manual shifting. Edited June 21, 2018 by tk2fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 Compared to my previous 2011 MKX with the 3.7L engine, the 2.7L EcoBoost has very weak engine braking on manual downshifts, so I suspect that manual downshifting on the 2.0 will not help on steep downhills. I think that's one area where there is really no replacement for displacement. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk2fast Posted June 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 That's interesting omar302... Good point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 It's not the engine, it's the programming (probably for better mpg). I have the 3.5LEB in my F150 and it does fine with downshifting on a steep hill to provide engine braking. You might need to put it in sport mode. My contact doesn't know for sure whether selectshift is really missing on FWD versions - we'll just have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk2fast Posted June 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 Thanks akirby. Appreciate you checking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben senise Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 on my '16 Ti 3.5 AWD, if the cruise control is set and i go downhill, the car downshifts on its own to attempt to slow down and keep that speed. it usually goes over though but i guess you could compensate by lowering the cruise speed more. one of the features i like most about my edge is the paddle shifters. i would never go back to a car without them. and now that you can only get a V6, albeit it an ecoboost one, in the sport model, i'm not so sure i'm going to buy another edge. i don't care for the ecoboost 4 cyl. i don't really want to pay all that extra for the "sport" model just to get a V6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 i don't really want to pay all that extra for the "sport" model just to get a V6. The difference between fully optioned 2018 Sport & Titanium V6 AWD models is only US 1,585/-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk2fast Posted June 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 I agree ben senise; No paddle shifters is a "deal breaker" for me. 90% of my driving is mountainous with very steep downgrades. It just makes no sense to me that Ford would do this. Ugh! Does anyone have an Email of someone at Ford that makes these decisions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 Ford is migrating to a strategy of using Drive Modes instead of manual shifting. Using the Sport drive mode will give you lots of engine braking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk2fast Posted June 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 Thanks Waldo, just do not want to purchase a 2019 only to find out the drivability would not be satisfactory on extreme mountain roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 It is possible Sport mode will give you enough engine braking on steep mountain rodes. You'll just have to wait and test it to be sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk2fast Posted June 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 I guess a thorough test drive is in my future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben senise Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 The difference between fully optioned 2018 Sport & Titanium V6 AWD models is only US 1,585/-. i my edge with one option; the heated steering wheel. all the other carp is a waste of money for me. the difference in price was substantial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 The order guide has finally been posted. I can’t copy it and repost it from my ipad so here’s the link: http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index.php?/topic/64419-2019-lincoln-mkxnautilus-production-information/?p=1036755 SelectShift is standard on all models not just AWD which makes sense. Adaptive cruise is still optional on all models including Black Label and Reserve. Ridiculous. It does say CCD suspension is standard on the Reserve models which would include FWD models. But it still says AWD includes the CCD suspension, so who knows for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 Ugh! Does anyone have an Email of someone at Ford that makes these decisions? Phone 1-800-392-3673 Mail Ford Motor Company Customer Relationship Center P.O. Box 6248 Dearborn, MI 48126 Email addresses are kept confidential. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 The order guide has finally been posted. I can’t copy it and repost it from my ipad so here’s the link: http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index.php?/topic/64419-2019-lincoln-mkxnautilus-production-information/?p=1036755 SelectShift is standard on all models not just AWD which makes sense. Adaptive cruise is still optional on all models including Black Label and Reserve. Ridiculous. It does say CCD suspension is standard on the Reserve models which would include FWD models. But it still says AWD includes the CCD suspension, so who knows for sure. Sorry guys this was supposed to go to the MKX forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk2fast Posted June 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 Strange that Ford decided to take away SelectShift (paddle shifters) on the FWD 2019 Edge but is standard on the MKX (Nautilus). Not even an option! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk2fast Posted August 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 Trying to get an answer about the discontinuation of paddle shifters on the 2019 Edge FWD is useless. Cannot even get Ford to return an email except one which said "not my job" Talk to someone else. VERY DISAPPOINTING! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 It's not even on sale yet. I wouldn't expect Ford to make any comments until it's at least on sale, at which point we'll know for sure one way or the other. (the main reason they won't comment is that things can change at the last minute so they might be giving you bad info). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk2fast Posted August 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 Production starts on September 3rd, so they have known for some time that they will not be putting paddle shifters on any Edge with FWD. This is my understanding from the info I received. I could be wrong. Just wanted someone still working for Ford to verify why they decided to do this, as many people I have spoke with agree that it's a great feature to have, with some saying they would not own another vehicle without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 That’s not something Ford would ever comment on publicly. Either it was done for cost savings or they want to entice buyers to spend more money or they’re using a different transmission that doesn’t support it. I’m hearing there are 3 different transmissions - one based on the GM 9 speed but with 8 gears in the ST and 2 other 8 speeds based on the old 6F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk2fast Posted August 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) Thanks Akirby, I thought the GM based 9 speed (now Ford 8 speed) would be on the majority of the 2019 Edge's and the ST would have the Ford based 8 speed. Guess we'll see how that turns out. I believe GM has been using the 9 speed for a few years now. Edited August 12, 2018 by tk2fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 Thanks Akirby, I thought the GM based 9 speed (now Ford 8 speed) would be on the majority of the 2019 Edge's and the ST would have the Ford based 8 speed. Guess we'll see how that turns out. I believe GM has been using the 9 speed for a few years now. I heard the opposite - that the brand new 8 speed would be on the ST as the 8F57 and the others would get a 8 speed version of the 6F35 or 6F50. I guess we’ll just have to wait to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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