Frankiebass Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Does anyone have an opinion on combining the JLT system with the RX Clean Side Separator? https://rxcatchcans.com/shop?olsPage=products%2Frx-clean-side-separator I have a 2017 Fusion Spot and just bought a 2018 Edge Sport. I pulled the clean side hose off the Fusion with about 6k miles on it and found some oil and am concerned. Wanting to address it without installing 2 catch cans. And if so, can the MAP sensor be installed in line without throwing a code as it will re-rout the line from the valve cover to the Oil Fill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snmjim Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) On 1/28/2019 at 2:14 PM, Frankiebass said: Does anyone have an opinion on combining the JLT system with the RX Clean Side Separator? https://rxcatchcans.com/shop?olsPage=products%2Frx-clean-side-separator I have a 2017 Fusion Spot and just bought a 2018 Edge Sport. I pulled the clean side hose off the Fusion with about 6k miles on it and found some oil and am concerned. Wanting to address it without installing 2 catch cans. And if so, can the MAP sensor be installed in line without throwing a code as it will re-rout the line from the valve cover to the Oil Fill. We, Special K & I, were part of the development & evaluation of this system and highly recommend you dig back in this topic string to find the contact Info for Vinny (JLT owner) to get an education on the system to save yourself from creating the overkill & potential future problems that you are headed for... Edited January 29, 2019 by snmjim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cree Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 Anyone know of any method/work around of shipping one of these to Cali? Or am I sh*%t out of luck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snmjim Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 6 hours ago, Cree said: Anyone know of any method/work around of shipping one of these to Cali? Or am I sh*%t out of luck? Have it shipped to a friend in another state who then ships it to you...? Where there's a will, there's a way... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onyxbfly Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Cree said: Anyone know of any method/work around of shipping one of these to Cali? Or am I sh*%t out of luck? Reach out to @Xtra He is in California. He also has most if not all of the mods available for his edge. Including the catch can. I'm sure he can point you in the right direction of how you can join the cool kids catch can club! Edited February 14, 2019 by onyxbfly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimcrim Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 11:14 AM, Frankiebass said: Does anyone have an opinion on combining the JLT system with the RX Clean Side Separator? https://rxcatchcans.com/shop?olsPage=products%2Frx-clean-side-separator I have a 2017 Fusion Spot and just bought a 2018 Edge Sport. I pulled the clean side hose off the Fusion with about 6k miles on it and found some oil and am concerned. Wanting to address it without installing 2 catch cans. And if so, can the MAP sensor be installed in line without throwing a code as it will re-rout the line from the valve cover to the Oil Fill. I think this would be complete overkill, I'm running the JLT only and I'm happy with the results so far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtra Posted February 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 The JLT can is the way to go in CA as it is super easy to install and convert back to stock. The RX can is much more involved to install and once in you won't want to remove it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cree Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just ordered the Jlt. Now I just have to make a decision weather or not to clean valves etc before install. I have 45k miles on my 15 sport. Worth it? I would rather just slap it on and save the time/money. But then again, those pics of black crusted valves are flaring up my anxiety 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Cree said: Just ordered the Jlt. Now I just have to make a decision weather or not to clean valves etc before install. I have 45k miles on my 15 sport. Worth it? I would rather just slap it on and save the time/money. But then again, those pics of black crusted valves are flaring up my anxiety The fact that those pics aren't of a Ford Edge Sport, I'd do an inspection before attempting any cleaning procedure, which carries risks. I added the JLT at around 25K mi, and not going to bother with any inspection or cleaning, ......... when the spark plugs are due for changing, and the inlet manifold is removed for that, I'll inspect the intakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snmjim Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Cree said: Just ordered the Jlt. Now I just have to make a decision weather or not to clean valves etc before install. I have 45k miles on my 15 sport. Worth it? I would rather just slap it on and save the time/money. But then again, those pics of black crusted valves are flaring up my anxiety Hello Cree Note that everyone has an opinion and many are not based on facts i.e. the bore scope Pics in our inspection post on page 4 are in fact from our 2016 Edge Sport. We clearly state which Pics are from the Audi S4, first 2, and which are from the 2016 Edge Sport. SpecialK & I are in the development & sustainment sides of the engineering field. We pride ourselves on doing our best to present facts. Therefore we highly recommend you go through this topic thread and thoroughly read our posts, especially those on page 4, and you will be better educated to make your own decision. Unfortunately even after all the facts are presented the decision is still subjective. Note: we are maticulous perfectionists and after inspecting the intake & valves we decided it wasn't necessary. Edited February 22, 2019 by snmjim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veener79 Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 48 minutes ago, 1004ron said: The fact that those pics aren't of a Ford Edge Sport, I'd do an inspection before attempting any cleaning procedure, which carries risks. I added the JLT at around 25K mi, and not going to bother with any inspection or cleaning, ......... when the spark plugs are due for changing, and the inlet manifold is removed for that, I'll inspect the intakes. I was wondering if we had to do that. Know on my wife's 3.5 Ecoboost you had to. I had not seen a plug change on the 2.7 yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snmjim Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 3 hours ago, veener79 said: I was wondering if we had to do that. Know on my wife's 3.5 Ecoboost you had to. I had not seen a plug change on the 2.7 yet. A spark plug change will not provide accurate determining Info. Most often the plugs will look fine and the intake valves will be coked beyond reason. The sure way is with a scope or pulling the intake for a up close visual...? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veener79 Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 That is what I was thinking with the intake off I an put a scope down the head to see what shape they are in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snmjim Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 56 minutes ago, veener79 said: That is what I was thinking with the intake off I an put a scope down the head to see what shape they are in. Taking the intake off isn't necessary. Just remove the throttle body then send your scope down the intake to inspect the stem side of the intake valves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cree Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 Understood, I should have said, if 16 hours ago, snmjim said: Hello Cree Note that everyone has an opinion and many are not based on facts i.e. the bore scope Pics in our inspection post on page 4 are in fact from our 2016 Edge Sport. We clearly state which Pics are from the Audi S4, first 2, and which are from the 2016 Edge Sport. SpecialK & I are in the development & sustainment sides of the engineering field. We pride ourselves on doing our best to present facts. Therefore we highly recommend you go through this topic thread and thoroughly read our posts, especially those on page 4, and you will be better educated to make your own decision. Unfortunately even after all the facts are presented the decision is still subjective. Note: we are maticulous perfectionists and after inspecting the intake & valves we decided it wasn't necessary. Understood. I have read all pages. What I meant to say if if there was any build up and even a chance of compromised performance I would take issue with it if there was something I could do about it. But I hear you on the subjective nature of it all. Thanks for the advice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimcrim Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 Installed a JLT Catch Can on my new 2019 Edge at roughly 50km, and I just checked it at 1600km to see what was inside. Quite a decent amount of oil, and a few particulates in there sunk to the bottom as well. Very glad I put this on when it was new to prevent all of this from going back into the engine. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handfiler Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 On 1/6/2019 at 7:04 PM, 1004ron said: This is what I find in my JLT 3.0 can after around 500 miles. I can't resist checking it when I check my engine oil level. Mine would be 3/4 full in 5-7 days when the temperature got down to -20 C. Mostly due to the hot vapors condensing in an ice cold catch can. In my application the can was further from the motor. On the edge it's in a good location as it will be kept warmer from the engine heat. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankiebass Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 Just pulled the trigger on 2 catch cans. One for my Edge Sport and another for my Fusion Sport. Vinny at JLT Performance is great to deal with and both he and his staff are very knowledgeable. They give honest answers and not a sales pitch. I'd buy from him again anytime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie368 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 I finally found a mod that can be done in less than 15 min.I was able to install the catch can in 14 mins[timed] Everything else has taken 1 to 6 hours. Did it in my garage. Temp mid 90's with high Humidity. One mod left to do on the suspension and with this heat I think I will hire it done! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Catch Can? Why? Which engine do you have? Thanks Larry 2013 Edge 3.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Larry said: Which engine do you have? Thanks Larry 2013 Edge 3.5 Good info to have in your profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie368 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 7 hours ago, Larry said: Catch Can? Why? Which engine do you have? Thanks Larry 2013 Edge 3.5 Larry I have the 2.7TT. The JLT performance catch can places a removable cup that catches the engine oil vapors and deposits it into the catch can before it is run back thru the intake and reburned which may cause carbon deposits to form on the valves. Every few thousand miles or so you unscrew the can and dispose of the oil. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 Anyone have experience with the Steeda Catch Can? The one in this image just doesn't look right to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project_Edge Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) Thats my oil separator. I got it for my Focus and decided to use it for my Edge. I bought another oem hose and cut the hose off to use the connectors. It's working well so far. I use the drain button at the bottom to drain onto a rag as I see it build up. Steeda sells replacement filters as well. I have a message in with them about how long a filter lasts. Awaiting a response. Edited July 6, 2019 by Project_Edge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Project_Edge said: Thats my oil separator. I got it for my Focus and decided to use it for my Edge. I bought another oem hose and cut the hose off to use the connectors. It's working well so far. I use the drain button at the bottom to drain onto a rag as I see it build up. Steeda sells replacement filters as well. I have a message in with them about how long a filter lasts. Awaiting a response. I have a few concerns with that style, the sintered filter once wet with oil, which won't take long, will present a air/gas flow restriction and from then on its going to be less effective and increases the potential for crankcase pressure to increase. If I was to use the compressed air filters, I'd drill a few holes in the sintered filter and wrap it with the course pot scourer. The other odd thing is the size. Catch cans like the JLT rely on a gas/air flow direction change with gravity, a course filter like pot scourers, and a housing that will promote condensation - low gas/air pressure drop. Also, those compressed air filters are really cheap - don't know what Steeda charge, and if they make any modifications to the standard air filters, but is doesn't look like it. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-1-4-in-Air-Compressor-Filter-HDA70403AV/100027474 This one with a higher cfm rating and metal bowl at $26 would be a better option compared to the Steeda. https://www.amazon.com/EXELAIR-Milton-FRL-Mini-Filter/dp/B01MEGKUIK Edited July 6, 2019 by 1004ron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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