Mikula Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 After posting a few questions on here, I'm wondering if anyone has an AWD that doesn't seem to be AWD. Maybe i'm just being picky, but with traction control off and footbraking, my front tires will spin and my rears are just along for the ride. Not a great video, but this was taken on my wifes iphone which has a "slow motion" thing so I can slow it down and view it. I assure you the fronts are spinning and the rears are not. whether or not they have any power has yet to be determined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtra Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 And that was slow motion, just how fast is that car of yours WoW lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikula Posted March 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 no no no its regular speed for youtube lol. Wait, I've said too much.. I mean... I've got the fastest g2 ford edge sport. No timeslips, but 0-130mph and I was still pulling hard from a bugatti 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWizard Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 no no no its regular speed for youtube lol. Wait, I've said too much.. I mean... I've got the fastest g2 ford edge sport. No timeslips, but 0-130mph and I was still pulling hard from a bugatti :hysterical: Was that a Veyron or Chiron? Was he awake? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 The AWD system probably has a logic algorithm in it that turns off the AWD when it detects brake pressure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
037 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Here's a good launch... https://youtu.be/Eh-t6gN37tQ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Are your neighbours friendly? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtra Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Here's a good launch... Hellcats invade Love the way the Edge smoked that Hellcat off the line. On the street stoplight to stoplight the Edge Sport has embarrassed many and is a sleeper that stays under the radar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
037 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 That Hellcat was literally a sleeper, 0.6 seconds reaction time. Edge left -0.07 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT Owner Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) The Ford Edge has a RDU (rear drive unit) The rearend has a differential and just before it is a electrically operated disconnect which is computer controlled (algorithm) when the rear tires don't drive the algorithm has been satisfied. Please read the owners manual and the algorithm is explained. From the Chilton Manual:8-7 Note: On AWD models, the manufacturer uses an Active Torque Control Coupling (ATCC) to mange power distribution to the front and rear wheels. Normally, the front wheels receive the majority of the torque produced by the engine. When the ATCC system senses wheel slip, it automatically increases the torque to the rear wheels. The system is always active, continuously monitoring vehicle conditions and adjusting the torque being delivered to the rer wheels by controlling the current sent to an electric clutch device inside the rear axle. The ATCC system has no mode selector nor does it require any driver input. The ATCC solenoid in the rear axle is not repairable and must be replaced with the rear axle assembly as a unit. Edited March 28, 2018 by GT Owner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikula Posted March 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 The Ford Edge has a RDU (rear drive unit) The rearend has a differential and just before it is a electrically operated disconnect which is computer controlled (algorithm) when the rear tires don't drive the algorithm has been satisfied. Please read the owners manual and the algorithm is explained. what in the actual hell did you just say? in english for us slow people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT Owner Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Sorry Mikula,,, I added a discription found in the Chilton Manual for my 2012 Edge. See above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtra Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 My car spins the rear tires if I punch it from a 20 or 40mph cruse up to 60 mph you can here them squealing . I had the PTU serviced at 8K. It works great. Will have it done again at 16 or 20K. Did the trans around 10K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikula Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 My car spins the rear tires if I punch it from a 20 or 40mph cruse up to 60 mph you can here them squealing . I had the PTU serviced at 8K. It works great. Will have it done again at 16 or 20K. Did the trans around 10K. That's very strange. I get much better traction than that. The only time they break loose is from under 10mph. not a hint of squealing or chirping at shifts either. Sorry Mikula,,, I added a discription found in the Chilton Manual for my 2012 Edge. See above This system is different than the 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtra Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 My car never did that until I put in the LMS V3 Tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Halstead Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 you awd sports have all the fun Love the way the Edge smoked that Hellcat off the line. On the street stoplight to stoplight the Edge Sport has embarrassed many and is a sleeper that stays under the radar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 That's very strange. I get much better traction than that. The only time they break loose is from under 10mph. not a hint of squealing or chirping at shifts either. This system is different than the 2012 Not really, it's been the same basic system in every Edge ever made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikula Posted March 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 My car never did that until I put in the LMS V3 Tune. Call them and tell them that you're V3 is better than mine... and have them send your tune my way!! Not really, it's been the same basic system in every Edge ever made. Where can I find more information about that. I've read the intellegent AWD as of late is different than the old models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 Call them and tell them that you're V3 is better than mine... and have them send your tune my way!! Where can I find more information about that. I've read the intellegent AWD as of late is different than the old models. You’re thinking of the Focus RS AWD system that includes torque vectoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 I ve posted this PDF on another post, but thought it may be appropriate here. It describes how the AWD (gen 1) works. Emailing Ford's All-Wheel Drive 2009.pdf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford5 Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 How does the 19 Edge AWD differ from what was used in the past? It is described as "AWD disconnect" so does that mean it operates as FWD until AWD is needed? Will this decrease the mileage penalty for AWD vs. FWD? Does the driver control the disconnect? We have a 13 Edge FWD and are considering a 19 Edge and trying to decide if the added cost and mileage penalty are worth it. We live in the Midwest and have a 4X4 F150 when things get really bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 If you have a 4x4 I wouldn't bother with AWD regardless of the technology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaX83_ZA Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 How does the 19 Edge AWD differ from what was used in the past? It is described as "AWD disconnect" so does that mean it operates as FWD until AWD is needed? Will this decrease the mileage penalty for AWD vs. FWD? Does the driver control the disconnect? We have a 13 Edge FWD and are considering a 19 Edge and trying to decide if the added cost and mileage penalty are worth it. We live in the Midwest and have a 4X4 F150 when things get really bad. Yes, it essentially runs as a FWD when cruising. Yes, it means less parasitic loss and better fuel economy. No, the driver doesnt do anything, the car decides when to send the power where. I drove my Edge Sport up a 25 degree (wont be surprised if it was more than 25) incline that was solid ice (you could not walk up the hill...). Car was sitting on a set of 20 inch conti wintercontacts and it was just about a non event. You could actually feel how the car was sending power to wheels with traction. I actually made my wife drive the exact same piece of road with me to supposedly guide her up but she went up with no assistance! A poor VW Jetta tried to do same incline right before I went, and managed 0.5m before the car just spun its wheels and started skidding backwards. Overtook a semi at highway speeds and hit black ice, no adjusting drive modes, no locking hubs, nothing, car tracked true and straight and got me safely to the other side. I also watched a video the other night of a 2019 Edge doing an axle twister obstacle where one front wheel and one rear wheel was off the ground and it made it comfortably. In fact, something that really surprised me was that as the car crept forward the front wheel that was in the air wasnt spinning indicating the car was braking the wheel to effectively send all the power to the wheel with traction.You will probably need a 4x4 with low range to go rock crawling but for your day to day use, you will never need more than what an Edge AWD brings to the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 I drove my Edge Sport up a 25 degree (wont be surprised if it was more than 25) incline that was solid ice (you could not walk up the hill...). Car was sitting on a set of 20 inch conti wintercontacts and it was just about a non event. You could actually feel how the car was sending power to wheels with traction. I actually made my wife drive the exact same piece of road with me to supposedly guide her up but she went up with no assistance! A poor VW Jetta tried to do same incline right before I went, and managed 0.5m before the car just spun its wheels and started skidding backwards. The Edge only has a 18.8 degree front approach angle, so if the hill was really 25 degrees, you would have smashed your front bumper trying to pull on to it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Or the hill's ascent starts gradually. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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