enigma-2 Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) Theory: https://youtu.be/j-Wf4lRhILc Conclusion: https://youtu.be/WcMBbop_11k Can buy the Neodymium magnets to trap steel particles here: https://goo.gl/images/QWym5p and the aluminum magnets here: https://www.officedepot.com/a/products/387573/Office-Depot-Brand-Jumbo-Aluminum-Magnets/ (chuckle) Edited March 5, 2018 by enigma-2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikula Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 A lot of drain plugs now have them. My harley has it, my mustang has it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted March 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 A lot of drain plugs now have them. My harley has it, my mustang has it. True enough. But the new ECO engines have plastic drain plugs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikula Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 True enough. But the new ECO engines have plastic drain plugs. Plastic turbos are next! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted March 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 Plastic turbos are next! Yup. Standard on the 2021 Edge with the 0.4L flathead upgrade. Also heard that Ford was experimenting with plastic catolitic converters as well. Have to change them at every oil change though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 I've never used magnets other than drain plugs with magnets that come with some vehicles. Sounds like using them could be helpful. I do one thing that wasn't mentioned. I fill the new oil filter ( when possible ) . Some filters are on such an angle can't get much in them. Then you have the upside down filter :-( I figure the oil goes through the filter first before getting to the bearings, so if the filter is already full , it doesn't have to be filled by oil pump before getting to engine. May help illuminate dry start. The filter on my Edge 3.5 is vertical so I can completely fill it. I may be old school on this but that's the way I do it. Larry 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulSchott Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 I haven't done this on the Edge because I haven't bothered to look for a fuse that would disable the ignition. I used to crank the car with the ignition disabled until the pressure would build up. I also would prefill the filter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 PaulSchott, If you want to crank engine to build oil pressure, hold WOT, engine won't start until you release throttle. Larry Northern, In. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwf78155 Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 Where do I put the magnets on my 2018 Edge Sport.......plastic oil filter cover kind of negates normal placement ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted May 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001OJCIMO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Q3cdBbPDEE4C4 Secure with a wire tie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefduane Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 Filter magnets, pan magnets, hyperdyne tru-flo framister condensers... whatever. The most important part of an oil change is that you do them regularly with a quality oil, dino or synth, and with a quality filter. QED Thus Endeth the Lesson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'manedgeowner Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 I've never had the pan off so is the windage tray plastic or metal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk2fast Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 More reason to use a top rated synthetic oil. Amsoil is the top here.Been using for 30 years and would not use anything else. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntDeek Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 Amsoil is a freaking sham and provides no better wear numbers than Mobil 1 or any other leading Synthetic meeting API SN or SNPLUS. Please dont spread misinformation or quote me with an article from 2008 about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefduane Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 If Amsoil was a sham why does it have such a good reputation amongst its users? BITOG has gone through the chemical analysis and it has great chemical properties and its been on the market for years. If it was snake oil it probably wouldn't have lasted this long under real world scrutiny. Also, if it provides no better numbers than M-1 and you call it a sham, is then logically, is M-1 a sham also? I am not a user of Amsoil so I cannot offer any direct feedback but I think your assertion of it being a 'sham' is kinda' off base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 I think the point was it’s not significantly better than other oils despite claims that it is significantly better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntDeek Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 The point was that if you belive all of the marketing crap behind AMSOIL or even Royal Purple, you are a fool. For example, Mobil 1 EP is an ester based oil, as is AMSOIL and RP. The same wear numbers and similar TBN's prove that the pricey "boutique" oils are NOT any more suited for wear protection or even deposit protection. Any oils meeting the API SN or SNPLUS rating, as well as ILSAC GF-5, are excellent oils and the main differences between them is how LONG you can go for an OCI. Remember folks: The best oil filter is a good air filter. (And don't buy a KN gauze garbage filter!) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefduane Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 OK, now I understand. While your assertion is not that the actual oil is a sham, the claims they make are a sham. (thanks akirby for the clarification.) As I said, I am not an Amsoil user - I do, in fact, use Mobil-1 and have for many years on my current Edge and former 213k mileage Explorer. But I am of the belief, and have stated it in this forum, as long as you use a quality oil and change it at regular intervals, you'll probably be just fine. Heck, my dad swore by Ray-Lube and routinely got 150k+ out of our 60's and 70's family cars. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikrichard Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 The point was that if you belive all of the marketing crap behind AMSOIL or even Royal Purple, you are a fool. For example, Mobil 1 EP is an ester based oil, as is AMSOIL and RP. The same wear numbers and similar TBN's prove that the pricey "boutique" oils are NOT any more suited for wear protection or even deposit protection. Any oils meeting the API SN or SNPLUS rating, as well as ILSAC GF-5, are excellent oils and the main differences between them is how LONG you can go for an OCI. Remember folks: The best oil filter is a good air filter. (And don't buy a KN gauze garbage filter!) I'd be willing to bet there is no significant difference between any oils you mention here and Walmart brand Supertech synthetic - that's why I've been using it for years and will continue to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) I highly recommend using only conventional oil 15W40 in our 3.5L engines here in the U.S. :bliss: J/K! As far as wearing similarly/wear numbers, "show me the money"! Does anyone on this forum post oil analysis data with usage details? Or do we assume what is good for one engine is good for all? Edited September 10, 2018 by WWWPerfA_ZN0W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted September 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 I may be in a minority, but I just use the synthetic blend the local dealer uses. Good enough for Ford engineering, good enough fur me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikrichard Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 I may be in a minority, but I just use the synthetic blend the local dealer uses. Good enough for Ford engineering, good enough fur me. I'm sure it works just as good as the rest, if it were cheaper than Supertech I'd use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntDeek Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 Technically all of us just need to meet the MC-945-A spec for our motors. But yes. Any SN and GF-5 oil will provide outstanding wear protection, and synthetics resist heat breakdown and last longer across the interval. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikrichard Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) i've always believed that changing oil/filter every 5k miles with the cheapest oil is far better than changing at 10k miles with the most expensive oil. And if you are changing it that frequently, there is absolutely no difference in engine protection between the cheapest and the most expensive. Using Amsoil or Royal Purple at over 2x the price of Supertech every 10k miles is false economy, especially since I believe this is too long between oil changes no matter what you use. I'd use Supertech conventional but since their full synthetic is only $3 more for the 5 qt jug why not. BMW and most on the BMW forums recommend Castrol Edge synthetic for my E90 328i every 15k miles. Ridiculous interval, I change it with Supertech synthetic every 5k and I am 100% confident what I do is far better for the engine, no matter how many BMW snobs are aghast someone would put Walmart brand oil in their BMW. Edited September 10, 2018 by erikrichard 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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