macbwt Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Which does better? The results were surprising. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaX83_ZA Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Excellent video!!! I recently went through a similar (but untested) exercise where I swapped my All Seasons for a set of Winter Tires and on snow, grip between the two tires are too close to call. The Winter tires get up to temperature much quicker but when the all seasons have driven a couple of Km's they grip pretty well. Unfortunately where I live, we get a lot of Ice (especially black Ice) and I really had to do it for Ice driving. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candurin Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Ugh... so torn now. Im debating on throwing blizzaks on my OEM 20 wheels and then throwing either the LTX or Dueler LE 2s on my new enkei 20s and keeping them tucked away for after the winter. Now Im debating on just getting the LTXs on the new wheels and keeping them clean, year round. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd92 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 A completely useless comparison. "Maybe it has something to do with my Blizzaks being 50% worn". A 50% worn Blizzak is just an all-season tire. Yet it still beat the new Michelin Premier LTX's by 'only a second', which is actually huge for this test. Most of his videos are equally bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Most of his videos are equally bad. You do realize those are made by macbwt, right? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candurin Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 That comment was out of left field. I really enjoy his videos and most are bookmarked as my own service guides. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd92 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 So you think this was a useful comparison? I think I'll stick to Tire Rack tests and Consumer Reports. The intersection of where they both rate tires highly is the sweet spot for finding great tires. Not some half-assed home video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 No need to get your panties in a wad. If you don’t like the videos don’t watch them. Most people like them and find them either entertaining and/or useful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaX83_ZA Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 So you think this was a useful comparison? I think I'll stick to Tire Rack tests and Consumer Reports. The intersection of where they both rate tires highly is the sweet spot for finding great tires. Not some half-assed home video. I think it was a great video! I think it was a video you can relate to not something driven by corporate BS and sales strategies. It was a honest review by a nice guy. Take it for what it is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd92 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Are you saying that Tire Rack and Consumer Reports tests are driven by corporate BS and sales strategies? I didn't say it was dishonest, nor did I make any remarks about his character. I said the comparison was useless. I took it for what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just let it go. No need for personal attacks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaX83_ZA Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Are you saying that Tire Rack and Consumer Reports tests are driven by corporate BS and sales strategies? Yes and Yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candurin Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) Understandably, on this forum, we have an appreciation for Mac and what he offers up (voluntarily) for forum members. It may be how you completely dismissed the usefulness of the comparison and referred to his videos as bad is what set us off. I can appreciate your opinion, but, your delivery was complete shit. When you called his videos equally bad it was, in essence, a character remark as his videos are mostly his character with a lot of information mixed in. I wouldnt dump on someone who offers free help and tutorials. If one of his videos were not useful to you, then you could simply opt not to utilize the info. Edited January 16, 2018 by candurin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd92 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Again, please explain how a brief home test of half worn snow tires vs new all season tires would be of use to anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 You are right. The video is completely useless. Well, now that the truth has been outed, don't we all feel better? LOL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Again, please explain how a brief home test of half worn snow tires vs new all season tires would be of use to anyone. It’s just as useless as your opinions. Drop it and move on please. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shumax Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 I have run snow tires for years. Years. A 50% worn Blizzak is absolutely NO better than an all season tire. Not one bit. I am not at all surprised to see the Michelin keep up. Its comparing an apple to an apple. The biggest attribute of a snow tire is its ability to help you STOP. Taking off is nice and helpful, but its ability to bite in and stop you is what really is important. Brand new blizzaks on my wifes 2016 Sport are like chewing gum on warm pavement. Same for the blizzaks on my 2014 Explorer Sport. Love them! Shumax 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted January 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 I have run snow tires for years. Years. A 50% worn Blizzak is absolutely NO better than an all season tire. Not one bit. I am not at all surprised to see the Michelin keep up. Its comparing an apple to an apple. The biggest attribute of a snow tire is its ability to help you STOP. Taking off is nice and helpful, but its ability to bite in and stop you is what really is important. Brand new blizzaks on my wifes 2016 Sport are like chewing gum on warm pavement. Same for the blizzaks on my 2014 Explorer Sport. Love them! Shumax My point was to test the half worn blizzaks against new Premiers. I love the Brand new Blizzaks, but people need to know that once you have worn half the tread off they become regular ole snow tires with limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted January 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 Thank you everyone for your support. I have learned that not everyone appreciates what I do or how I make the videos. I will never please everyone. Just a fact. You folks are why I love this group. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaX83_ZA Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 Thank you everyone for your support. I have learned that not everyone appreciates what I do or how I make the videos. I will never please everyone. Just a fact. You folks are why I love this group. Incredible mature response mac! The internet is not for sissies! All of the best with your productions! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shumax Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 I guess I don't follow. I agree with you, brother. Half worn Blizzak's are no better than a new all season when it comes to taking off. My contention is that people look at a snow tire the wrong way. A "new" one will certainly help you take off a bit better; however, where they really excel is in their ability to help you STOP. That's what people miss. Sorry if you read into my messaging the wrong way. I agree with you. I just think attention needs to be given to what a snow tire really does - it helps you STOP. Shumax 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted March 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 I guess I don't follow. I agree with you, brother. Half worn Blizzak's are no better than a new all season when it comes to taking off. My contention is that people look at a snow tire the wrong way. A "new" one will certainly help you take off a bit better; however, where they really excel is in their ability to help you STOP. That's what people miss. Sorry if you read into my messaging the wrong way. I agree with you. I just think attention needs to be given to what a snow tire really does - it helps you STOP. Shumax I have other videos stating just what you said. This video was only for the acceleration display and difference. No harm. You should see what people say on the YT channel!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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