roots57 Posted August 13, 2018 Report Share Posted August 13, 2018 I also stopped by Pep Boys yesterday to grab something and for kicks had them give me an estimate for installing my new bar, guy tells me $275 for the labor. I laughed in the guys face and told him that price was actually insulting. Thats roughly 4 hrs of labor to loosen like 6 or 8 bolts, swap out the bar, then tighten them again...ridiculous! If it takes a mechanic 4 hrs to install this bar, he should look for another career. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots57 Posted August 15, 2018 Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 (edited) Got my bar in finally. Glad I decided to wait until I had the shaft collars. It looks like there is plenty of opportunity for the end link studs to start ripping into the parking brake module if it migrates sideways just a tad in either direction. I highly recommend adding them to this mod! Just from the short drive I took, I could immediately notice the reduction in body roll. I played it safe and went with the lighter setting for now. Edited August 15, 2018 by roots57 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtra Posted August 15, 2018 Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 Got my bar in finally. Glad I decided to wait until I had the shaft collars. It looks like there is plenty of opportunity for the end link studs to start ripping into the parking brake module if it migrates sideways just a tad in either direction. I highly recommend adding them to this mod! Great information with good photos Thanks . Was there room to put the lateral lock / shaft collars on after the sway bar was installed or did you have to put them on first ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veener79 Posted August 15, 2018 Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 Thanks Roots57. Wanted to make sure of the fit before I ordered. Got mine ordered now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbluenote Posted August 15, 2018 Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 Thanks for the great info and pics Roots57..Very helpful! Excited to hear that you could immediately feel the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots57 Posted August 15, 2018 Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 Great information with good photos Thanks . Was there room to put the lateral lock / shaft collars on after the sway bar was installed or did you have to put them on first ? There's room to put them on afterward, on either side of the brackets too. You can also measure the bracket spread and then add the collars before you put the bar on, but its probably easier to just put them on after. Plus, that way you can be more precise with centering the bar and the amount of play you allow for with the shaft collars. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtra Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 I got mine from McMaster Carr, they're just two-piece hard anodized aluminum shaft collars w/ stainless steel bolts. I paid the same as you guys, $30 for the pair. Your McMaster Carr collars look better and more beefy than the Whiteline collars and they cost the same. What is the part number of those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjarosz Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Your McMaster Carr collars look better and more beefy than the Whiteline collars and they cost the same. What is the part number of those? 6436K143 for the 2024 Aluminum 6436K39 for the 303 stainless 9633T22 for the 316 stainless They also come in black oxide, zinc plated, and chrome plated. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 This the right page for these products? https://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/124/1262/=1e6yhfy Looks like snmjim and SpecialK have another addition for their already extensive performance mods page 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwf78155 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 I found a front tower brace for my 2018 Edge and installed it yesterday........took about 45 minutes and was a great fit. Seems to have tightened up the front end on turns...now to get rid of the Pirelli tires for something better (very limited by 21 inch size), so I may go to 20 or 22's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snmjim Posted August 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) This the right page for these products? https://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/124/1262/=1e6yhfy Looks like snmjim and SpecialK have another addition for their already extensive performance mods page Manu, please put this post in the "Ultimate" build topic so SpecialK can add it to the list...thnx! Edited August 17, 2018 by snmjim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezz Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) For anyone not in the United States purchase from here: https://www.globalindustrial.ca/p/motors/collars/power-transmission-collars/metric-two-piece-clamping-collar-gm2c-30-ss or try out amazon in your region. Fastenal is also a good place to check. Since McMaster doesn't ship to international non business/ non school customers. global industrial also has black oxide steel collars, but if you're in Canada like me, you will be much better off with the stainless ones. Edited August 17, 2018 by Beezz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtra Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) Just installed the Sway Bar and will test this weekend. Edited August 17, 2018 by Xtra 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbluenote Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Just installed the Sway Bar and will test this weekend. WHITELINE LATERAL LOCKS.JPG STIFFER SETTING.JPG Xtra....Congrats on the install!...How long did it take? I will have to have a shop do mine and I would like to have a good idea as to the length of time for the install so they dont pad the labor cost (which is up around $125 per hour) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtra Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 It should cost $200 or less for the job. GAS charged me $200 @ $125 per hr. I think it took them less than one hr though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtra Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Xtra....Congrats on the install!...How long did it take? I will have to have a shop do mine and I would like to have a good idea as to the length of time for the install so they dont pad the labor cost (which is up around $125 per hour) **** I just remembered that I had the dash cam on while the car was serviced and I have reviewed the Memory Card. Total time including a test drive was 63 min. The Ford book says 1 and a half hr for the job around $200. So you should pay anywhere from $125 to $200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veener79 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Xtra....Congrats on the install!...How long did it take? I will have to have a shop do mine and I would like to have a good idea as to the length of time for the install so they dont pad the labor cost (which is up around $125 per hour) Mine took two hours to do. With a baby sleeping I did not turn on my large 60gal air compressor so it was all hand tools. That was from the time I pulled into my garage till the time I pulled out. I think I could do it in a hour if I did it again with air tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbluenote Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 **** I just remembered that I had the dash cam on while the car was serviced and I have reviewed the Memory Card. Total time including a test drive was 63 min. The Ford book says 1 and a half hr for the job around $200. So you should pay anywhere from $125 to $200. Mine took two hours to do. With a baby sleeping I did not turn on my large 60gal air compressor so it was all hand tools. That was from the time I pulled into my garage till the time I pulled out. I think I could do it in a hour if I did it again with air tools. Thanks guys...good to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots57 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 I paid $125 from a mom n pop shop nearby. Don't go to pep boys or a major franchise auto shop ($275 was their quote). They generate their estimates based on bulk historical info from data companies and pricing will always be way high for stuff like this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots57 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Your McMaster Carr collars look better and more beefy than the Whiteline collars and they cost the same. What is the part number of those? I think the Whiteline collars will be fine, they should provide plenty of stability for keeping the bar centered. I only got mine from McMaster because the stuff gets delivered from their local warehouse the next day, sometimes even the same day if I place orders in the morning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots57 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) now to get rid of the Pirelli tires for something better (very limited by 21 inch size), so I may go to 20 or 22's The Atturo AZ850 tires I have now are a decent low-cost performance tire in 21", I'm pretty happy with mine so far with just about 10k on them now. Will be buying again for sure, they are a fraction of the cost of 21" Pirelli's (about $125 per tire compared to $300+) Edited August 17, 2018 by roots57 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtra Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) I do not recommend installing the ADDCO bar without lateral locks. The stock OEM sway bar has lateral locks pressed onto the bar. Without the locks the sway bar could possibly shift and cause interference problems. Adding Lateral Locks is a good idea with this bar and car. Edited August 18, 2018 by Xtra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snmjim Posted August 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) Being the R&D platform, design team and having the first bar SpecialK & I would have to disagree with the urgency but do agree with installing the locks. However, note that as of today we have been thrashing our platform fairly abusively at times and have yet to find evidence of the bar making any contact in its tight tolerances with the Elect brake calipers or the springs. Yes, we have ordered locks as well but only as a logical precautionary measure... BTW, the tolerances change significantly when the car is on the ground and has been rolled out to level the suspension before measuring...;-) Edited August 18, 2018 by snmjim 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbluenote Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 The Atturo AZ850 tires I have now are a decent low-cost performance tire in 21", I'm pretty happy with mine so far with just about 10k on them now. Will be buying again for sure, they are a fraction of the cost of 21" Pirelli's (about $125 per tire compared to $300+) I second roots57 recommendation for the Atturo AZ 850'S...Im running mine at 38psi and once you get 'em heated up they become nice and 'grippy'..They are HP Summer tires, so bear that in mind if you have to deal with cold winters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbluenote Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 Just installed the Sway Bar and will test this weekend. WHITELINE LATERAL LOCKS.JPG STIFFER SETTING.JPG Xtra...looking forward to your evaluation of the SB at the stiffer setting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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