davidtay20 Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 I'm not having much success finding out if my 2015 Ford Edge Select with Sync and touchscreen has GPS or not. Does it? By GPS, I mean maps and turn by turn navigation, like Maps on my iPhone or Google Maps or my TomTom GPS. I went to the Ford website and clearly it says Sync Services are available for my Edge but when I try to connect to Sync Services it says that Sync Services is no longer available. This is a 2 year old vehicle, is there GPS or not? Can any one give it to me straight? Every Ford sales man doesn't seem to have a clue. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) Does the screen have the word "Navigation" then yes you have maps and GPS. If it has the word "Information", you don't have navigation. But it can be added for $800. https://www.4dtech.com/15-ford-edge-navigation-kit-for-myford-touch-systems/ Sync services is not related to navigation. It is a method you can use with your cell phone to control certain functions of your car, like remote start, things like that. You must have a contract with Ford and pay a monthly fee. Like GM's OnStar. Edited August 21, 2017 by enigma-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 Or you can add it for MUCH MUCH cheaper, search for ForScan mods & you'll find plenty of how to's. It would cost you the price of a maps SD Card & a compatible OBD connector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normkol Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 If you have Sync3, you can get the latest release with Android Auto and then use Google Maps or Waze, all free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 If you have Sync3, you can get the latest release with Android Auto and then use Google Maps or Waze, all free. He's driving a 2015. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) Or you can add it for MUCH MUCH cheaper, search for ForScan mods & you'll find plenty of how to's. It would cost you the price of a maps SD Card & a compatible OBD connector.What about the navigation module, GPS module and GPS antenna? You saying you don't need the extra hardware? Edited August 21, 2017 by enigma-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 Just FYI Waze does not work with CarPlay - not sure about AA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quila Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 Just FYI Waze does not work with CarPlay - not sure about AA. Waze works with Android Auto... for a while. Usually after about 30 minutes or so, AA will just stop working and it will go back to the built in Sync 3 display. The next time I start the car, AA will start working again. I haven't tried rebooting Sync 3 while driving yet, but that would probably be enough to get AA and Waze running again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 What about the navigation module, GPS module and GPS antenna? You saying you don't need the extra hardware? With MyFord Touch, you don't need any extra hardware except for the maps SD memory card. Everything is already present. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 Or you can add it for MUCH MUCH cheaper, search for ForScan mods & you'll find plenty of how to's. It would cost you the price of a maps SD Card & a compatible OBD connector. Why even pay for the SD Card? If you're going to steal the GPS software, you might as well look around a parking lot for an unlocked car and steal the SD card too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) Why even pay for the SD Card? If you're going to steal the GPS software, you might as well look around a parking lot for an unlocked car and steal the SD card too. The software is already there, regardless if it was enabled or not from the factory. It is simply a method of enabling it, which Ford (or at least many dealers), whether intentionally or not, convinced some customers that it can be done in the early days of MyFord Touch, but then simply refused to make it an option. By the way, there are also methods to download & copy the maps, which would be a better way than your suggestion to break into someone's car and steal their SD card causing real loss to innocent people. Edited August 23, 2017 by omar302 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 The software is already there, regardless if it was enabled or not from the factory. It is simply a method of enabling it, which Ford (or at least many dealers), whether intentionally or not, convinced some customers that it can be done in the early days of MyFord Touch, but then simply refused to make it an option. By the way, there are also methods to download & copy the maps, which would be a better way than your suggestion to break into someone's car and steal their SD card causing real loss to innocent people. Not paying the license for the navigation causes real loss to the people who work for the company that did all the work. Their business model is built around a certain number of customers buying the software, then they divide up the cost of development by the number expected to be sold and that's how they arrive at the license cost. So when people steal the software instead of buying it, they are reducing the number of paying customers, which makes the cost higher for everyone who actually does pay for it. That's a real loss for ME. The fact that the software is "there" is irrelevant. The software business works on the licensing model, not the "it's there" model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 This notion that any software or digital product is "free" is maddening. Just because you CAN copy something digitally for free or activate a hidden feature doesn't mean you should. As Waldo points out these companies (or musicians or individual programmers) are making a product and they deserve to be paid for their work. Would you work for free? What if your boss came to you one day and said "nobody is buying our software they're just downloading illegal copies so we can't pay you this week"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) Yes, I understand and agree with most of it, but in this specific case, the software is there & they don't give you any option to buy it unless you change your whole car. Edited August 23, 2017 by omar302 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Yes, I understand and agree with most of it, but in this specific case, the software is there & they don't give you any option to buy it unless you change your whole car. You had the option to buy Navigation when you bought the vehicle. You chose not to buy it for whatever reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Actually, no I did not. It wasn't available in my region and the dealer said it will be possible to add it later on. And I still don't have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Sorry I forgot you were not in North America. Ford did plan to make it available but either couldn't figure out how to do it securely or didn't have the resources to devote to developing that solution. If it was not a factory option and the dealer promised it would be available later then I understand your frustration. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 By the way, there are also methods to download & copy the maps, which would be a better way than your suggestion to break into someone's car and steal their SD card causing real loss to innocent people.Its corney, but perterant. Tho shalt not steal. There's no such thing as something for nothing. We always ending up paying. With interest. So as I understand what's being stated, all you have to do is add a $150 SD card and ... poof... navigaton now works. So why spend $$$$ from Ford to get it? Or do you have to get the dealer to program your unit? And how much does that cost? (I'm confused as to all the claims being made). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 Its corney, but perterant. Tho shalt not steal. There's no such thing as something for nothing. We always ending up paying. With interest. So as I understand what's being stated, all you have to do is add a $150 SD card and ... poof... navigaton now works. So why spend $$$$ from Ford to get it? Or do you have to get the dealer to program your unit? And how much does that cost? (I'm confused as to all the claims being made). Just for the sake explaining the issue to you as I am not trying to argue with Waldo or Akirby, they bring very valid points, the issue that is specific to Ford's MyFord Touch (and MyLinconln Touch) in short is as follows: Adding an SD Card only will NOT enable navigation. Ford, and/or through dealers, will state that if a car left the factory without navigation, then it CAN NOT be enabled afterwards. There is nothing a dealer can do or sell to enable it (except sell you another car that is factory equipped) Someone (or more) was able to find out how to modify the APIM (as built data) and thus with a license (someone does sell them online) or a hack you can enable navigation in a MyFord Touch equipped vehicle (that Ford tells is not possible & still does not offer it). To use navigation, you'll need a maps SD Memory Card. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) Just to clarify, Ford doesn't say it's not possible - they say that they don't offer a Navigation option that can be added (legally) to the vehicle if it wasn't equipped with Nav from the factory. In Omar's case factory Nav wasn't an option and the dealer mistakenly told him it could be added later which is a bit different from North America where it is available from the factory. Edited August 24, 2017 by akirby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 Just for the sake explaining the issue to you as I am not trying to argue with Waldo or Akirby, they bring very valid points, the issue that is specific to Ford's MyFord Touch (and MyLinconln Touch) in short is as follows: Adding an SD Card only will NOT enable navigation. Ford, and/or through dealers, will state that if a car left the factory without navigation, then it CAN NOT be enabled afterwards. There is nothing a dealer can do or sell to enable it (except sell you another car that is factory equipped) Someone (or more) was able to find out how to modify the APIM (as built data) and thus with a license (someone does sell them online) or a hack you can enable navigation in a MyFord Touch equipped vehicle (that Ford tells is not possible & still does not offer it). To use navigation, you'll need a maps SD Memory Card. No argument about this, these are the facts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 (edited) Just for the sake explaining the issue to you as I am not trying to argue with Waldo or Akirby, they bring very valid points, the issue that is specific to Ford's MyFord Touch (and MyLinconln Touch) in short is as follows: Adding an SD Card only will NOT enable navigation. Ford, and/or through dealers, will state that if a car left the factory without navigation, then it CAN NOT be enabled afterwards. There is nothing a dealer can do or sell to enable it (except sell you another car that is factory equipped) Someone (or more) was able to find out how to modify the APIM (as built data) and thus with a license (someone does sell them online) or a hack you can enable navigation in a MyFord Touch equipped vehicle (that Ford tells is not possible & still does not offer it). To use navigation, you'll need a maps SD Memory Card. Ah, that's what I was thinking, so much discussion got me confused. The OP can still add navigation for an $800 kit (link I posted above) if he wants it, or (quoting you), adding a SD card and doing some sort of hack on the existing hardware (which is pretty much impossible for most of us).. Edited August 25, 2017 by enigma-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 Got curious about the hack. Here's an interesting website that discusses how all this works. https://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/general/myford-touch-hack-enable-features-t3321397/page1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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