Chipster Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 After a year and a half of ownership I have been more than pleased with my Edge. Having said this, I must admit to been a little concerned and a bit puzzled by occasional error / fault messages displayed on my dash. The first occurred several months ago was a "Nav. system failure" I don't have GPS, so I don't know what it was telling me. After a re-start the warning went away. This week as I was backing out of my garage I got a "traction control" & "hill holder" failure and the FM radio station I was listening to was "not available". On re-start (re-boot?) all the fault warning went away and the radio station came in loud and clear. I feared that any vehicle that has as much "fluff" as my Edge does (most other up optioned vehicles as well) would be subject to this sort of issue, as these vehicles ECM, BCM, & ECU modules age and heat cycle through the heat of summer. Has anyone else experience these sort of non-repeated system failure warnings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONEDGE16 Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) could be loose wiring/connectors, loose or defective fuse, loose battery connectors, or weak battery Edited June 30, 2017 by ONEDGE16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 I also suspect a weak battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipster Posted June 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 I also suspect a weak battery. No, it's not that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 No, it's not that. How do you know? Did you use a modern tester? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipster Posted June 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Yes, Checked and rechecked. The battery is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 If we had a nickel for every time somebody said can't be the battery and it turned out to be the battery, we'd have a lot of nickels. Just sayin'..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Boy, if I had a nickel for every time I've heard that, ..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipster Posted July 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 (edited) Well here is the rub. I went to get it checked again and was told it was good. As they removed the gear I was told it just needed to be re-charged. I told them that it had been on a float charger over night and that the Battery Tender was giving me a solid green light the next morning indicating a full charge. When I asked for the voltage I was told 12.48 V. This strikes me a low and would have expected a reading of 12.7 + or so. So I'll keep an eye on the voltage and if it falls into the low 12's I'll get my dealer to check it out. What I did discover is that (at least for this last check) their equipment will not detect a failing cell only a dead cell. No loose nickel's for you boy's just yet, but perhaps I should grab a roll the next time I visit my bank... Edited July 1, 2017 by Chipster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 CCAs, not voltage, is the important info on the battery. BUT, there could well be a parasitic draw somewhere also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Yea, my dealer kept telling me that my battery was good. I bought a Solar 9 (thanks again Mac) and it showed low CCA's. Took it back in again with a coupon for a free check and again nothing wrong. Two or three weeks later it died at the grocery store. Like WWWPerfA_ZNOW (that's a mouthfull) said, it's the CCA's, not voltage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben senise Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Interestingly enough, i've been getting the same error messages for the last few days. Then yesterday when coming out of the hardware store, the car was dead. completely absolutely dead. I thought that it was strange considering that i had just driven there. I have a physical switch on the battery that disconnects it because i sometimes leave it for a month or more at a time and i don't want it to drain the battery. I figured that this must be the problem so reached under the hood and tightened it (it's a knob with a screw that tightens the connection.) Sure enough, everything is fine and no more error messages. So I would put my bet on the side of having a bad battery or even a loose connection too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) Yea, my dealer kept telling me that my battery was good. I bought a Solar 9 (thanks again Mac) and it showed low CCA's. Took it back in again with a coupon for a free check and again nothing wrong. Two or three weeks later it died at the grocery store. Like WWWPerfA_ZNOW (that's a mouthfull) said, it's the CCA's, not voltage. I rest my case. Get a Solar tester and don't believe what the dealership,tells you. Their equipment/methods are incorrect. Edited July 2, 2017 by akirby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipster Posted July 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 If we had a nickel for every time somebody said can't be the battery and it turned out to be the battery, we'd have a lot of nickels. Just sayin'..... If we had a nickel for every time somebody said can't be the battery and it turned out to be the battery, we'd have a lot of nickels. Just sayin'..... Test no. 4 was the tell. My Ford Dealer did a load discharge and full recharge test and discovered that a battery cell was indeed failing. They replaced the battery under warranty and hopefully that will be the end of my issues. I just hope that there is not a parasitic voltage draw lurking somewhere that promoted the battery issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipster Posted July 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 CCAs, not voltage, is the important info on the battery. BUT, there could well be a parasitic draw somewhere also. It can be, but voltage is a good quick tell as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipster Posted July 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) CCAs, not voltage, is the important info on the battery. BUT, there could well be a parasitic draw somewhere also. Ignore, or better yet delete double post if possible. Edited July 3, 2017 by Chipster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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