NoDTMF Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 Hi All, I just did my own install on 2017 sport of HR springs and Adeco sway bar. I will publish some tips on the install and include torque specs as well. The above torque spec for the Strut top nut is wrong...it is like 90ftlbs or so...I will check later. I think the plate bolts are 26ftlbs...again I need to check when at home. Anyway the ride is stiffer, and the handling much better, mostly because of the stiffer sway bar. I ran the sway bar for a week before doing the Spring install Some quick tips are on the FordSportEdge fb page 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reckless Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 Can someone email the instructions to me please? I get an error when I try to open the files. Thanks! turbows6@hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDTMF Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) Can someone email the instructions to me please? I get an error when I try to open the files. Thanks! turbows6@hotmail.com will do. here are some other tips You need to remove the top shock mounts of the rear shocks or the subframe won't go low enough because the shock will limit its drop.. You should take the exhaust off the hangers and let it hang lower. Otherwise the sway bar rests on the exhaust stressing the system when trying to get the springs out. I found you have to fully disconnect both sides of the subframe...hence completely disconnected. I used 2 floor jacks to support, lower and raise. Once the subframe is hanging, your 1st thought is "how the hell am I going to get it to line up." (That's when I broke out the Bourbon) Oddly I think the springs force the alignment when jacking up the subframe. The service manual say the rear subframe Torx bolts are to be torqued to 76 ftlb. Mine weren't on that tight, and when tightening that just seemed too tight for those bolts into the frame. I stopped at 60 and used blue loctite. EDIT Misread the manual, Torq is 41 ftlbs! I wrote down all the torques specs except I have to find them. Edited September 23, 2018 by NoDTMF 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reckless Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 Great advice. It will be done on a lift by one of our tech's. One question though, why did you start the bourbon so late? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDTMF Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 Great advice. It will be done on a lift by one of our tech's. One question though, why did you start the bourbon so late? LoL.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snmjim Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) We posted a DIY Doc of which it is highly recommended against dropping the entire rear subframe but instead one side at a time in an effort 2 retain alignment. BTW, we didn't have 2 drop the exhaust, it wasn't N the way...;-) Edited September 1, 2018 by snmjim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDTMF Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 hmm thats odd. Yes used your docs! Not sure how you did it one side at a time. Also not sure that actually helps/hinders alignment, both sides were removed. I put zillions of marks all over to help in the re-assembly. I go for an alignment check next week! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Halstead Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) We posted a DIY Doc of which it is highly recommended against dropping the entire rear subframe but instead one side at a time in an effort 2 retain alignment. BTW, we didn't have 2 drop the exhaust, it wasn't N the way...;-) agreed, didn't touch my exhaust or remove my wipers/cowl and did one side of subframe at a time. along with the DIY file a 2G Fusion how to will show you how to exactly do the rear of the edge, they are 95% the same and the 5% difference does not hinder the process I actually used this and Fords PDF files since I was the first guinea pig outside of a SEMA vehicle. http://www.2gfusions.net/showthread.php?tid=25&highlight=spring+install Edited September 2, 2018 by Nick Halstead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDTMF Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) Well,I went re-read the notes to see if I missed something. In the Fusion forum I did find these tips (that echo my experience) from one of the guys that did the install: Rears: -lowering subframe is more tricky than alluded too early in this thread. -passenger side was tough. Exhaust keeps it from dropping enough. Gotta muscle it. I also had to loosen drivers side subframe bolts to get spring out-driver side subframe drops easily. Much quicker. Do this side first. -remove splash guards covering Torx 50 and front subframe bolt. I didn’t. Harder to work around but possible. When I got to the stage of loosening the the driver's side bolts I just took them out. I remember worrying that I might bend the bolts when one side was hanging significantly lower. I have been driving it for a couple of weeks and will take it for an alignment, so we'll how far out it is. It feels fine. If I had to do it again, I would remove the exhaust from the hangers and drop both sides. No forcing of anything required. But you need at least 2 floor jacks and a bottle jack (and Bourbon) Edited September 2, 2018 by NoDTMF 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlancer Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 Can someone email the instructions to me please? I get an error when I try to open the files. Thanks! turbows6@hotmail.com If anybody else is looking for the reference from snmjim, here's a couple of Google doc links that I think should work if the forums links are down: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w_5VqTUoy3GNuYwlo5-mlileZAz7givd/view https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OfMmqazx_RG5AmuRgxwU2X2ruubV4GA3/view 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snmjim Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 If anybody else is looking for the reference from snmjim, here's a couple of Google doc links that I think should work if the forums links are down: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w_5VqTUoy3GNuYwlo5-mlileZAz7givd/view https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OfMmqazx_RG5AmuRgxwU2X2ruubV4GA3/view Thnx redlancer 4 the support. We've emailed Admin about the broken PDF link who sent us direct to the site owner, of which theres been NO response 4 Wks later. Just one more thing with this site that's demotivating our efforts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 I think issues with the site may have been resolved in the latest round of updates. I would try reposting the files in the original locations to see if that is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlancer Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) FINALLY got around to installing the H&R springs and rear swaybar. Took about 7 hours from grabbing the jack to lowering the Edge back down. Most of that time is the first front and first rear; once you do one side the opposite side is easy. Followed snmjim's install guides and helped a lot, especially with the back (they're easier than it sounds/looks once you get in there) Alignment seems unaffected, will be able to tell better tomorrow after some highway driving. few pics fresh out of the garage. Running 275/45 21's with 5mm spacers. No rubbing at all of full lock-to-lock turn (I wasn't sure that would be the case, but so far so good ) Edited September 4, 2018 by redlancer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snmjim Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) FINALLY got around to installing the H&R springs and rear swaybar. Took about 7 hours from grabbing the jack to lowering the Edge back down. Most of that time is the first front and first rear; once you do one side the opposite side is easy. Followed snmjim's install guides and helped a lot, especially with the back (they're easier than it sounds/looks once you get in there) Alignment seems unaffected, will be able to tell better tomorrow after some highway driving. few pics frech out of the garage. Running 275/45 21's with 5mm spacers. No rubbing at all of full lock-to-lock turn (I wasn't sure that would be the case, but so far so good ) Awesome ride man & so love the color! Thnx 4 the Kudos, we try our best to support the platform & owners. Thnx so much for reposting our front & rear step-by-step DIY PDF that we initially posted of which the forums site broke and we've misplaced in our files and have yet to find it for reposting...lol Thnx to you we'll be able to update the broken PDF link in the initial post. We really appreciate your support... Edited September 4, 2018 by snmjim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlancer Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) You should be able to redownload them from the links I posted yesterday. From there you could try to edit them back into the original post or post them again. Learned long ago, if you find something on the 'net that's useful - grab it. No guarantee it will be there the next time you go looking for it Edited September 4, 2018 by redlancer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots57 Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 few pics fresh out of the garage. Running 275/45 21's with 5mm spacers. No rubbing at all of full lock-to-lock turn (I wasn't sure that would be the case, but so far so good ) Can I ask where you bought your wheel spacers and what the cost was? Xtra and I have an issue. The OEM spare donut wheel doesn't fit over our Rotora brake kit calipers, so I am currently driving without a spare...no bueno. I'm hoping I can simply space it away from the caliper a bit to create enough room. I am having difficulty finding spacers with the proper bore and bolt circle. Thanks! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlancer Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 Can I ask where you bought your wheel spacers and what the cost was? Xtra and I have an issue. The OEM spare donut wheel doesn't fit over our Rotora brake kit calipers, so I am currently driving without a spare...no bueno. I'm hoping I can simply space it away from the caliper a bit to create enough room. I am having difficulty finding spacers with the proper bore and bolt circle. Thanks! used these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XQWJ35H that had the correct lug spacing and centerbore. HOWEVER, couldn't find a set that were for our lug size (14mm) Used a fresh 9/16" bit (14.2mm) in a drill press and a stepdown bit to give the enlarged hole a bit of chamfer. Bit self-centered on the existing lug hole and fit absolutely perfect. Would never know it wasn't machined for that size from the start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDTMF Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 (edited) Hi all, Finally took the Edge in for alignment...about a month later after my self install of the springs. Front was not too bad, rear was out. Edited September 18, 2018 by NoDTMF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDTMF Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 Hi all, Finally took the Edge in for alignment...about a month later after my self install of the springs. Front was not too bad, rear was out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 front was pretty good for sure! the rear camber tho ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDTMF Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 front was pretty good for sure! the rear camber tho ... Yeah...well remember I dropped the complete subframe, that probably had something to do with it. But I haven't heard of anyone lucky enough to get it in-spec using either replacement method. Next up is mud flaps that are supposed to fit the Sport trim. we'll see. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snmjim Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 (edited) Yeah...well remember I dropped the complete subframe, that probably had something to do with it. But I haven't heard of anyone lucky enough to get it in-spec using either replacement method. Next up is mud flaps that are supposed to fit the Sport trim. we'll see. I'm in the market for functional quality custom fitting mud flaps as well. Please keep us posted as to your findings... FYI, Early on we found that the Ford optional molded mud flaps for the front or maybe it was the rear, not sure which ones, would fit but I wanted a full set. Hopefully since a year has passed you'll have better results... Edited September 18, 2018 by snmjim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDTMF Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 posted here, they are a complete set...front and back, both appear to fit http://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/24894-mud-flaps-guards-for-15-17-sport-trim/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDTMF Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 here is updated Spring install doc with approval from snmjim https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wQ3WRD6zvzHaAbxE3hCZpyKIwbBI3-Gs/view 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snmjim Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 here is updated Spring install doc with approval from snmjim https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wQ3WRD6zvzHaAbxE3hCZpyKIwbBI3-Gs/view Are you requesting my review & concurrence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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