sealyons Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 2011 limited has an intermittent starting issue. Most times will start fine with the push button start, other times cranks 3+ times longer than normal before it starts. No rhyme or reason when it happens, warm/ cold, various amounts of gas in vehicle. Any suggestions. Bought it from a used car dealer and it didn't do it when I brought it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 First thing to check: battery & battery connections. Hopefully it has been recently replaced, but likely not. When was it produced, and how many CCAs is it rated for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sealyons Posted February 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 It cranks fine, not slow at all, it just doesn't catch when it should when it does this. Most times it's fine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 It cranks fine, not slow at all, it just doesn't catch when it should when it does this. Most times it's fine! Check this out and test it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Pull codes from the PCM to see what the computer thinks the issue might be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sealyons Posted February 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 The dealer allegedly changed the purge valve. I don't have an engine light on, but will look into both this weekend, thanks for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sealyons Posted April 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 I replaced the purge valve and do not have any codes. Still has the problem and seems to happen more frequently but with no consistency. I've also swapped the horn and fuel pump relays to isolate the relay. My wife seems to think that the brake pedal seems firmer when it does start right away vs. the long crank starts. I've not experienced that but wanted to mention. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Makes me wonder if the fuel pump is getting weak. (Or some other weaknees in the fuel manifold). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Brake booster leaking will cause vacuum leak and possibly cause starting and operation issues. You need to verify the brake booster. However if it is the issue you need to get it in quickly as I believe the extended warranty may have expired on the brake booster for your model year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sealyons Posted October 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 Still having the issue with starting. No codes, brought to the dealer and they couldn't find an issue either. It always starts, just sometimes takes a long time cranking before it catches. I'm going to change the crank sensor, but can't find anything out there on it. It appears to be buried under the front side of the engine behind the oil filter and exhaust manifold. Any pictures or diagrams would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 Have you cleaned and checked the MAF. Bad or dirty MAF will cause starting issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 No additional text sorry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sealyons Posted December 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 Thanks for the diagram! I replaced the sensor and still have the issue, no better or worse than before. Changing the sensor took about two hours. Getting it back in was quite the production. The rough equivalent of threading a needle blindfolded....but did it without pulling the cat or exhaust.... Going to try the MAF next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dddedge Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 Well, did you find and fix the problem, my 07 ford edge took a while to start this morning, had to crank it over for awhile, once started runs good and starts right back up, I read something about a possible fuel injector issue letting the fuel pressure bleed down. this is the first time my edge has done this, it sat for 2 days this time before I started it. I have it shut off now and will check it again later after it sits awhile. the check engine light is Not on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sealyons Posted January 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 still have the issue. Going to try the MAF next and possibly the temp sensor. I saw a post where that could contribute to the issue......car thinks it's hotter or colder than it really is... I'll post the fix if I ever get one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge-y Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 Did you ever find a remedy? Having the exact same issue with my 14 SEL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 how many miles on your ride, @Edge-y? have you checked codes? is the security light flashing at normal or fast speed? has the purge valve ever been replaced/does the issue happen after fillup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge-y Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 88k miles. No lights on and haven’t checked codes. Haven’t looked at the security light because I didn’t think to do so. Not sure if the purge valve has been replaced as I just bought the car 3 weeks ago. I noticed the prolonged crank after I bought the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 welcome! yeah, codes are the first place to start, because of the extensive computer controls on your Edge. if the prolonged crank is right after fillup, that is a classic purge valve failure Much more common on 2011+ MY vehicles than 2007-2010. I think electronics went into hyperdrive in 2011 LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge-y Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Can I pull codes even with no check engine light? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 yes, definitely. CELs are really for important (as defined by Ford) issues. So a lot of codes slide under the radar, as they may be transient, or just not that important in the scheme of things. Then the event has to happen regularly and often enough to pass the minimum threshold for a code to get set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sealyons Posted November 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 Never ended up finding out what it was....just lived with it. Traded the car this past summer after the nav screen went out....good luck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 Thanks for circling back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge-y Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 So I’ve made a discovery. I normally don’t let my vehicles get below a quarter tank of fuel for obvious reasons. Well, I did it once last week and noticed that it stopped acting up when the fuel was very low. Filled almost all the way up from empty and it stated acting up again. So, I repeated the process and got the same results. It doesn’t act up when it’s running on low fuel. Still think it could the purge valve failure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 28 minutes ago, Edge-y said: So I’ve made a discovery. I normally don’t let my vehicles get below a quarter tank of fuel for obvious reasons. Well, I did it once last week and noticed that it stopped acting up when the fuel was very low. Filled almost all the way up from empty and it stated acting up again. So, I repeated the process and got the same results. It doesn’t act up when it’s running on low fuel. Still think it could the purge valve failure? Probably the purge valve and it may have contaminated the canister as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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