Oil catch can on the 2.0L EcoBoost

[LorenAZ]

OK Guys,

I've found videos on installing an oil catch can on the v6 twin turbo EcoBoost, and others on the 2.0L Ecoboost on the Ford Focu, but nothing on installing the OCC on the Edge.

 

It looks like a relatively simple install, if the PCV line is the origin of the modification.

All the articles I read, indicate it is a benefit to the engine to have it. Catching the oil blowby seems to be important for better performance.

 

Has anyone installed the OCC on their 2.0L EB Edge? Where did you purchase it, what is it and how did you install it?

 

[lildisco]

I'm having very little success finding anyone that has installed one on a 2.0 Ecoboost Edge. I ordered one from teamrxp.com & it just came in this week. It's a little more complicated than the other ones you see online. It has 3 connections to it instead of 2. I'm having a hard time getting figuring out where to mount it as no one else has done it. I may have to pay a shop to install it & take pictures of the install process as i am no engineer & don't trust myself to make engineering decisions like that.

 

Hopefully someone will chime in that has done this & offer some insight. I've been very interested in this & it seems that no one has posted up any information about it.

[Chipster]

This might be helpful.

[lildisco]

Same company i bought mine from. From the pictures/video, it looks easy, but the video is made for an f-150 v6 ecoboost & not a 2.0 edge. I've seen a couple videos to where you take off the intake manifold, but the most passenger bolt is a pain & can't get it off.

 

I also can't figure out where to mount it either. The edge has considerably less room under the hood compared to the 150

Edited February 11, 2017 by lildisco

[LorenAZ]

If I remember correctly, this kit is for the V6 twin turbo EcoBoost, not the 2.0L EcoBoost. It is more engaging that it would be for the simple little 4 cylinder.

I watched one video where a Focus with the 2.0L EB had a OCC installed. That looked too easy, and I thought for as long as the 2.0L EB has been out, that surely someone has installed the OCC on it.

 

Just looking for some insight on how and where to mount it and tap into the hoses.

 

Thanks again,

Loren

[lildisco]

The catch can is universal & there really is no specific kit, with the exception of a few quick connectors for the 15+ Ecoboosts. The same principal applies to all vehicles.

 

I've yet to see anything specifically for the 2.0 Ecoboost Edge. I can't figure out a good place to mount the can from above, will probably have to come from the bottom somewhere, just haven't investigated that far yet. I figured out that i can get the intake manifold off with a 1/4 inch ratchet & a small extension. The mounting point is my biggest hold up.

 

I'm also interested in seeing if others have done this. Looking for tips/tricks if anyone has any

[lildisco]

Did a pre-inspection/take the intake manifold off to a check for oil & deposits/accumulation, etc. I was very surprised to find very minimal oil accumulation on the valves & the throttle body. My 2.0 Ecoboost has 12,106 miles on it currently. Seeing an older video of a '14 Focus ST with 9,000 miles getting a catch can installed & when they removed the Intake Manifold, Everything was coated with oil.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Uh3wEoNiM

 

My 2.0 Ecoboost is a 2016 Version (Twin Scroll Version) & since about 2,000 miles, I've changed the Oil with Mobile1 Full Synthetic about every 4,000 (I know, over-kill, but with all the coking issues, I felt it was kinda extra insurance).

 

Here's my Intake Manifold & Throttle Body after removing it from the engine, some oil accumulation, but not a lot:

 

 

 

I then cleaned the Throttle Body & IM as a precaution:

 

 

I'm interested to see what the OCC is going to catch. Still trying to find a good location to mount it.......

Edited February 12, 2017 by lildisco

[LorenAZ]

Both of these installs were on the Focus 2.0l. The first install has a PCV plate baffle replacement and a check valve in the line, the second has neither, but is similar. The first has the OCC in the engine compartment, the second vid has the location under the engine.

 

 

[lildisco]

I can tell you that while the intake manifold is similar, it is different on the Edge. Particularly, the vacuum line on the drivers side. Took me awhile get the damn thing off. I don't remember what the underneath looks like, but I wonder if that bracket is still there on an automatic. Also, the bracket i received a much smaller bracket in any of the video's i've seen.

 

[LorenAZ]

We are trying to get a idea of how and where to put the OCC on the Edge. Appartenly, there is not a kit specifically made for the Edge, so we have to adapt one to work. I did think the one way valve would be a good idea, catch cans seems to be plentiful, so now it boils down to where to tap into the PCV line. I would think that if a company would put together a kit, that it would sell pretty well.

[lildisco]

The idea of a catch can is to catch all that gunk & prevent coking occurring on the intake valves. The problem is finding a specific kit for each vehicle. It's next to impossible to build a kit specifically for every type of vehicle. While most installs are similar, the location/placement of the can is going to be different. Since the 'modding' market is slim on the Edge & specific kits are going to be hard to come by. I too, am looking for insight on where to place the can & routing of the lines, but it seems as though we're the innovators that the rest of the people will follow our lead.

[cds71]

Ill be installing a catch can this spring on my 15 edge sport...as well as changing the ptu oil.

[lildisco]

It's possible to, but this is the wife's DD & I'd like to keep it stock as possible. If the TB fails, then yes i would consider a bigger TB as a replacement.

 

I was just really concerned over some of the coking/blow by issues on other ecoboost's. But, after seeing the good condition of mine with 12,100 miles, i feel a hell of a lot better. This car cost nearly double of what her Mazda 6i cost new back in 06 & we want it to last just as long, if not longer than it.

Edited February 13, 2017 by lildisco

[lildisco]

I have an appointment Wednesday to get this catch can installed from a local independent car shop. He's going to see if he might need to fab up something to get the can mounted.

[lildisco]

If I'm allowed to be in the shop, i will try

[lildisco]

More to come when i get to my laptop later tonight

[lildisco]

First off, I'm so very glad that i got this done, i would have preferred to this myself, but I'm not very technical when it comes to installing something that didn't come on the car. The Mechanic around the corner from my house, was very interested in this install because he hasn't heard of the issue on Ecoboosts (he's mainly a diesel mechanic, working on VW's & bigger trucks), but also does regular maintenance items on pretty much all vehicles. He was very awesome to deal with & if i have any issues in the future, he's a very nice person to deal with. He's also an independent, so he's always interested in learning more things to improve his business.

 

This kit was purchased from teamrxp.com for around $350

http://teamrxp.com/products/rx-dual-valve-catch-can-kit-2013-2017-ford-escape-20

 

Here's some Video's/Links that may help you with your installation:

2.0 Focus ST RXP Catch Can Installation:

 

 

Explain of the importance of a Catch Can & Installation of an RXP Catch Can on a F-150:

 

 

Another F-150 RXP Catch Can Installation:

 

 

Tracy Lewis Performance Channel (Multiple RXP Catch Can Installations) - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCedKzubM3TtjdFLS5Y0iU3A

 

General Installation Instructions - http://teamrxp.com/p/instructions

 

 

First we removed the intake manifold, There's plenty of videos of this online, with some slight variables, but is pretty easy to figure out. We reused the stock connections from the PCV & Intake Manifold:

 

 

We then decided on a location for the Catch Can. Best place that we could fine, was on the sub frame pretty much right behind the oil drain plug. There's already a hole there & the bracket that came with the can, fit perfectly.

 

 

 

 

With that mounted in it's permeate location, We 'roughly' routed the lines from the Intake Manifold & PCV back to the catch can. After that, we then ran the lines to what they called "in boost evacuation". The best location that we could find, was on the top of the engine & has a yellow connector next to the quick connect. Here's a pic with the Quick Connector removed:

 

 

 

We then added the Check Valves & routed the lines back to the Catch can in a more permeate. Zip Tied the line from the "In Boost Evacuation" to the A/C lines so that it we be far enough away from the Turbo & Exhaust Manifold. Here's the pic of the other check valve. This located roughly between the air box & the engine.

 

 

 

We had to do a little tinkering with the hose clamps & connectors on the valve cover to get the engine cover to fit. We then added the Clean Side Separator Cap. Now, I wasn't a fan of drilling a hole into the airbox to get filtered fresh air, so i added a simple breather filter on the end of the separator cap. I'm going to tinker with this over the next few weeks to get a better 'look', but as long as you're getting filtered air from somewhere, you're good.

 

 

I hope this give people a general idea of where/how to mount their Catch Can. This particular catch can, has 3 connections on it, instead of the traditional 2. The traditional 2 connection catch can typically can go in between the intake manifold & the PCV, which may be easier, but it also might not offer the same amount of protection as the teamrxp.com as what was installed today.

Edited February 16, 2017 by lildisco

[lildisco]

Just a few miles over 400 since catch can was installed & decided to drain the can to see what was caught. I will admit that I spilled a little bit getting out from underneath the car, but still a decent amount for the mileage. We don't really beat on it & we mainly drive city/country roads with very little highway. Also have used full synthetic oil since around 2,000 miles.

 

Edited March 2, 2017 by lildisco

[WWWPerfA_ZN0W]

Every little bit helps!

[Chipster]

It just occurred to me that I have never seen that anyone that had installed a catch can on their vehicle ever went back later to see if the intake tract was free of oil. It might be an interesting exercise in seeing just how effective these catch cans really are. Regardless though, as stated above "Every little bit helps!"

Edited March 11, 2017 by Chipster

[lildisco]

It just occurred to me that I have never seen that anyone that had installed a catch can on their vehicle ever went back later to see if the intake tract was free of oil. It might be an interesting exercise in seeing just how effective these catch cans really are. Regardless though, as stated above "Every little bit helps!"

 

Ask & ye shall receive. Roughly 700 miles since the last time the can was drained. There's a little bit still in there, but i think that it's some residual stuff that i couldn't get clean before. Not the very best pics, but definitely less oil/crap in the intake manifold & Throttle Body.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[junehhan]

20k miles from now, I am curious what your intake ports will look like. We know that the 2.0 and 2.3 Ecoboosts can get significant buildup by then inside the intake ports for cylinders 2 and 3.

[lildisco]

Gonna have to wait almost 2 years for that outcome. We usually put about 12-13,000 a year on it. It's definitely catching stuff from re-entering the intake. I'm just glad it's in the can & not put back into the engine.

[Chipster]

 

Ask & ye shall receive. Roughly 700 miles since the last time the can was drained. There's a little bit still in there, but i think that it's some residual stuff that i couldn't get clean before. Not the very best pics, but definitely less oil/crap in the intake manifold & Throttle Body.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for this! I will be interested to know how much will be in the intake tract the next time you check it.

[lildisco]

That might be awhile. The tube from the intercooler that connects to the bottom of the intake manifold is a pain in the arse to get back on. Didn't take too long to get off, just a pain to get back on, at least for me.