Installing a RX Catch Pan to block deposit buildup on the back of intake valves

[enigma-2]

Youtube.com video of what the problem is and how to prevent it on EcoBoost engines.

 

[lildisco]

I've been wanting to install an OCC on my 2.0 Ecoboost, but I've been waiting until someone comes up with a good location & system. I'm not too keen on having tubes running all over the engine bay like the above installation.

 

On my CX7, we just tapped into the pcv on the crankcase, ran it to the catch can & then back to the intake manifold. The above system is slightly different than what I did on my CX7. I can see the benefits of the above system, but with tubes all over the engine bay, I'm not too sure about the above system.

 

I know that there's 'crud' getting into the engine, so I'd really like to get an OCC installed to prevent that. Has anyone installed one yet? Locations? Tips? Brand? I know that some kits on ebay & other sources are just simply empty bottles that provide no baffling for the 'crud' to accumulate on.

[WWWPerfA_ZN0W]

Some people have found success filling those "empty bottles" with steel wool to allow for condensation surface.

[gjb89]

I would really like to do this. I wonder if the 2.7 F150 catch can will work for the Edge.

http://www.stage3motorsports.com/MI1028-8-MP1065-12-2015-2016-F150-3-5L-2-7L-EcoBoost-McNally-MONSTER-RX-Dual-Valve-Oil-Separator-CSS.html

Edited October 18, 2016 by gjb89

[enigma-2]

Believe their sold on Amazon as a complete kit.

[enigma-2]

Here's a manufacturer that makes RX kits.

http://www.rxperformanceproducts.com

[WWWPerfA_ZN0W]

Will be interested to see what results people have with this catch can on the Edge.

[unca waldo]

Whatever "catch can" you decide on, make sure it has sufficient baffling and some type of stainless "wool" inside. There are some really cheap cans on the market that are nothing more than trick looking, empty containers... designed to look cool, but don't function as advertised. They allow 99.9% of the blow-by fumes to pass straight through and on, into the intake.

The baffling and "wool" gives the suspended oil fumes something to condense on, then drain to the bottom of the container. Make sure to mount the can where it is easily accessible, you'll want to empty the can at each oil change... depending on your style of driving, it's surprising how much oil can collect in the container.

There's a company called Billet Tech that makes a very good catch can, but they specialize in the Chrysler LX platform. The catch can will work on any vehicle, but unless you can adapt their mounting bracket, you'll have to design and fabricate one of your own.

Cheaping out on a can is a waste... with a catch can, you get what you pay for.

[WWWPerfA_ZN0W]

Fenderwell mounting in the area of the airbox is a great spot for the Explorer, space is tighter on the Edge, but probably still best for the can to be on that side. Some cans will have the option of a drain attachment, or if you are intrepid enough, you can mod it yourself.

[gjb89]

Good information ^ apparently there are alot of fakes on the market too.

[enigma-2]

Has anyone with the EcoBoost engine has any of the problems discussed in the video, or does it take more time for the intake valves to get coated? (According to the video, it's only a problem with the EcoBoost engine where the injector bypasses the intake valve).

[enigma-2]

Was reading about testing done there that found some of the cans were essentially worthless while the RX cough up to 90-95%.

Site: http://themustangsource.com/forums/f726/oil-catch-can-comparison-test-results-531966/

 

I would imagine that the location of the catch pan is important as they need to be emptied periodically.

Edited October 19, 2016 by enigma-2

[WWWPerfA_ZN0W]

The F150 has had the "most" amount of trouble with the blowby/PCV crud, but then it also has a huge user base and people pushing it to the limits. Typically less of an issue on the Taurus SHO and other engines. I wouldn't be surprised though if the first generation 2.0 EB has a lot of issues with this also. It is a DIRTY engine.

Has anyone with the EcoBoost engine has any of the problems discussed in the video, or does it take more time for the intake valves to get coated? (According to the video, it's only a problem with the EcoBoost engine where the injector bypasses the intake valve).

And the problem is not only the sludge on the intake valves, but buildup in the intercooler, which can be ingested under the right conditions, leading to misfires etc or even hydrolock. Yup, it can get that bad, but hydrolock from the sludge is very rare, just to be clear.

Edited October 20, 2016 by WWWPerfA_ZN0W

[gjb89]

The F150 has had the "most" amount of trouble with the blowby/PCV crud, but then it also has a huge user base and people pushing it to the limits. Typically less of an issue on the Taurus SHO and other engines. I wouldn't be surprised though if the first generation 2.0 EB has a lot of issues with this also. It is a DIRTY engine.

 

And the problem is not only the sludge on the intake valves, but buildup in the intercooler, which can be ingested under the right conditions, leading to misfires etc or even hydrolock. Yup, it can get that bad, but hydrolock from the sludge is very rare, just to be clear.

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