Xtra Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) Great info Special_K . I know that it takes time and effort to produce feedback like this and more time to post it for the community . Your effort is mucho appreciated . Now Mikula where is the info on that Chinese CX Racing IC you like. And I am not talking about MSRP........ crickets. LOL * Mikula, Just joking around no hard feelings . Edited May 10, 2018 by Xtra 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Halstead Posted May 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 UP intercooler vs stock intercooler, all data done from 0-100 in like temps 19c vs 21c: Line color: Dark red flat: ambient temp Dark Red: TIP KPA Blue thin: Vehicle Speed Blue Thick: Charge temp UP intercooler: max temp: 68c tip pressure max is 256kpa Stock intercooler: max temp 68c Tip pressure max is 210kpa Comments: As seen with the logs the stock intercooler heats up with in 8 seconds of going WOT and sustains 68c from 55mph to 100mph, which pulls timing and is extremely hot. Boost pressure varies greatly from 170kpa to a peak of 210kpa (redline) due to restrictive manner of the intercooler and extremely high temperature. recovery is slow. Aftermarket intercooler takes a while to reach 68c and finally reaches it at the end of the log which is over 100mph. Boost pressure is consistent and is roughly 20% higher. recovery is extremely fast. Final thoughts: UP Intercooler is well worth the money. should upload the logs to https://datazap.me/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikula Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Great info Special_K . I know that it takes time and effort to produce feedback like this and more time to post it for the community . Your effort is mucho appreciated . Now Mikula where is the info on that Chinese CX Racing IC you like. And I am not talking about MSRP........ crickets. LOL * Mikula, Just joking around no hard feelings . GT500 Has the logs for stock vs CXRacing intercooler. It's on one of his threads here. You can bet my cheap ass isn't buying either one until i see some 1/4 mile results from them. My favorite is when people run tests on a dyno, and claim "oh it added 20hp". It added 20hp with the hood open and fans blowing directly into it. not really surprising. Real world tests are where the benefit vs cost can be better evaluated. Of course, then you have to take into account the surface you're on, and a boat load of weather conditions at the time. I'm more of a researcher than most consumers. Generally people read something online and take it as gospel. It can confuse some of the people that don't take the time to read the fine print, then wonder why they didn't gain 0.7 seconds in the quarter mile when installing an IC or other upgrades. I'm just here to help with finding facts, not opinions. apparently, that is under appreciated around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special_K Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) GT500 Has the logs for stock vs CXRacing intercooler. It's on one of his threads here. You can bet my cheap ass isn't buying either one until i see some 1/4 mile results from them. My favorite is when people run tests on a dyno, and claim "oh it added 20hp". It added 20hp with the hood open and fans blowing directly into it. not really surprising. Real world tests are where the benefit vs cost can be better evaluated. Of course, then you have to take into account the surface you're on, and a boat load of weather conditions at the time. I'm more of a researcher than most consumers. Generally people read something online and take it as gospel. It can confuse some of the people that don't take the time to read the fine print, then wonder why they didn't gain 0.7 seconds in the quarter mile when installing an IC or other upgrades. I'm just here to help with finding facts, not opinions. apparently, that is under appreciated around here. We haven't claimed any hp gains, just cold hard data numbers and graphs. Dyno should be Monday if we can get our revisions with unleashed complete. Our next test and tune is coming up in 2 weeks I think. We will of course post our results when we get back from both occasions. We are all here to find facts and we have facts now for this particular thread. Until a product is installed and tested it's nothing but hypotheticals and opinions. But as soon as I was able to put together cold hard facts I did and posted it asap. Your overall intentions are welcomed Mikula,what's not appreciated is the attitude/brash/tactless way you go about it. And the little digs at me are getting quiet old also. Edited May 11, 2018 by Special_K 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 GT500 Has the logs for stock vs CXRacing intercooler. It's on one of his threads here. You can bet my cheap ass isn't buying either one until i see some 1/4 mile results from them. My favorite is when people run tests on a dyno, and claim "oh it added 20hp". It added 20hp with the hood open and fans blowing directly into it. not really surprising. Real world tests are where the benefit vs cost can be better evaluated. Of course, then you have to take into account the surface you're on, and a boat load of weather conditions at the time. I'm more of a researcher than most consumers. Generally people read something online and take it as gospel. It can confuse some of the people that don't take the time to read the fine print, then wonder why they didn't gain 0.7 seconds in the quarter mile when installing an IC or other upgrades. I'm just here to help with finding facts, not opinions. apparently, that is under appreciated around here. As I explained privately, this is completely unnecessary. All you needed to say is that dyno numbers are one thing but that may not translate to track performance due to other variables and that you’ll wait for track tests to decide if it’s effective or not. Lose the attitude or find another forum. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLinNBC Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) I'm just here to help with finding facts, not opinions. apparently, that is under appreciated around here. I suggest that there are so many uncontrolled variables in a drag strip run that drawing conclusions about engine power from 1/4 mile times is a fools game. Input air temperature is easily measured and subject to only ambient air temp as a variable. A significant reduction in IAT will certainly result in significant benefit including more pressure from the turbos, more timing advance and more power. Incremental improvements for a well-balanced, utility vehicle that provides me with a few grins now and then. This is not a vehicle I bring to the strip or track. Edited May 11, 2018 by KLinNBC 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattP Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 Is there any details on any modifications that need to be made to the bumper for the UP intercooler to fit? I'm interested for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snmjim Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 If U do your due diligence by reading from the beginning of this thread all of your questions will B answered & our efforts will not have been N vain...LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattP Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 If U do your due diligence by reading from the beginning of this thread all of your questions will B answered & our efforts will not have been N vain...LOL My adblocker was blocking half the pages for some reason. I turned it off and bam I see all the details on page 9. Thanks for your input. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snmjim Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) For those of you anxiously awaiting raw data as a result for the install of the Ultimate Performance IC & the Rambo IC Outlet Pipe along with custom Tune refinement on 93 octane the following applies... While we're waiting for SpecialK & I to locate an accurate Dyno within reasonable driving distance and schedule track time we'll periodically post Pics of the onboard tune computer/monitor at specific speeds & temperatures. Note: We still intend to provide the Dyno & track time data analysis in typical SpecialK fashion once we have it, however be patient it's going to be a while... As the weather warms we'll do our best to provide incremental updates. Pic specifics: #1 Date: 05/22/2018 Conditions: Highway cruise to work with overcast Location: MD Time: 0730 Temp 60 degrees Speed: Sustained 15 min at 70 Comments: No clue why the Forums App turns the Pic sideways #2 Date: 05/23/2018 Conditions: Highway cruise from work with clear skies Location: MD Time: 1700 Temp 70 degrees Speed: 70 mph sustained 15 min Comments: No clue why the Forums App turns the Pic sideways #3 Date: 05/26/2018 Conditions: Highway cruise, clear skies Location: MD Time: 1430 Temp 80 degrees Speed: 70 mph sustained 15 min Comments: No clue why the Forums App turns the Pic sideways #4 Date: 06/01/2018 Conditions: Highway cruise, clear skies Location: MD Time: 1615 Temp 90 degrees Speed: 70 mph sustained 15 min Comments: No clue why the Forums App turns the Pic sideways Edited June 2, 2018 by snmjim 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special_K Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 For those of you anxiously awaiting raw data as a result for the install of the Ultimate Performance IC & the Rambo IC Outlet Pipe along with custom Tune refinement on 93 octane the following applies... While we're waiting for SpecialK & I to locate an accurate Dyno within reasonable driving distance and schedule track time we'll periodically post Pics of the onboard tune computer/monitor at specific speeds & temperatures. Note: We still intend to provide the Dyno & track time data analysis in typical SpecialK fashion once we have it, however be patient it's going to be a while... As the weather warms we'll do our best to provide incremental updates. Pic specifics: #1 Date: 05/22/2018 Conditions: Highway cruise to work with overcast Location: MD Time: 0730 Temp 65 degrees Speed: Sustained 15 min at 70 Comments: No clue why the Forums App turned the Pic sideways when charge air temps are lower than intake temps....that's a good day right there 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 And this is without methanol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special_K Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 And this is without methanol! Sure is!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STB130 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 Looks like the cold air pipe is giving me .5 to 1.5 better mpg! Short trip through the Pocono Mountains got 29.4 mpg. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snmjim Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) On a 93 Octane Tune (Unleashed), with the Ultimate Perf IC & Rambo Outlet/Cold pipe at 70-75 mph in 65-85 degree weather we're seeing 28-31 mpg during highway cruising Note: all of our MODs are listed under SpecialK's thread: The Ultimate 2.7 TT Aftermarket Parts Thread!http://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/24317-the-ultimate-27tt-aftermarket-parts-thread/ Edited June 14, 2018 by snmjim 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STB130 Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 On a 93 Octane Tune (Unleashed), with the Ultimate Perf IC & Rambo Outlet/Cold pipe at 70-75 mph in 65-85 degree weather we're seeing 28-31 mpg during highway cruising Note: all of our MODs are listed under SpecialK's thread: The Ultimate 2.7 TT Aftermarket Parts Thread!http://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/24317-the-ultimate-27tt-aftermarket-parts-thread/ i My 29.4 was a average for a trip of 177 miles mostly highway but also backroads from NJ to PA. Last week on a 1030 mile trip from FL to NJ averaged 28.9 mpg. Could have been better if I didn’t hit traffic going through DC. I never check cruising instant mpg. On one leg from FL went 440 miles averaging 29.2 mpg with 3 gallon left in the tank that’s a realistic 500 miles on one tank of fuel. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JScaro Posted June 15, 2018 Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 i My 29.4 was a average for a trip of 177 miles mostly highway but also backroads from NJ to PA. Last week on a 1030 mile trip from FL to NJ averaged 28.9 mpg. Could have been better if I didn’t hit traffic going through DC. I never check cruising instant mpg. On one leg from FL went 440 miles averaging 29.2 mpg with 3 gallon left in the tank that’s a realistic 500 miles on one tank of fuel. What is you average speed when travailing? My guess under 70mph. My last Florida trip we got 23mpg averaging 82mph, better than my F150 when I would get 16mpg LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Slow 5.0 Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 Did anyone ever get any dyno numers from the intercooler install? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snmjim Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 Did anyone ever get any dyno numers from the intercooler install? Working on it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Slow 5.0 Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 Hows the iat holding up in the summer heat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veener79 Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 This was a very interesting read. Great seeing all this R&D work done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snmjim Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 Hows the iat holding up in the summer heat? My post on page 11 of this topic string should have what your looking for...;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtra Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) J.R. Granatelli told me he trashed on my car hard with the dyno and was looking to see when it gets heat soaked . He tried but the car only lost 10hp thanks to the big new IC . He was very impressed with it and told me so. Edited August 10, 2018 by Xtra 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blownZ71 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 What were said dyno results? J.R. Granatelli told me he trashed on my car hard with the dyno and was looking to see when it gets heat soaked . He tried but the car only lost 10hp thanks to the big new IC . He was very impressed with it and told me so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtra Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 What were said dyno results? Go to this page for more info : https://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/23269-turbos-needed-gen-ii-27-ecoboost/page-14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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