snmjim Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) To save everyone the back & forth between posts to see the differences between the 2015-2018 Ford Edge Sport and the 2017-2018 Ford Fusion Sport Intercoolers I decided to post the comparative Pics here... The outlet (cold) side isn't a problem, their short of identical. The inlet (hot) side presents a couple challenges but nothing that can't be over come. Ref next post where we (snmjim & SpecialK) test fit... The point of all this test fitment is to identify potential issues to ease the test installation when CPe calls us in to fit the 2017-2018 Ford Fusion Sport IC... :happy feet: Edited March 27, 2018 by snmjim 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snmjim Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) The following are the test fitment Pics of the 2017-2018 Ford Fusion Sport IC test fitted to the 2015-2018 Ford Edge Sport. Notes: - The outlet (cold) side is short of identical - The inlet (hot) side presents 2 challenges, the IC hanger tab (remove) and the radiator mounting tab (remove & secure at another point). - The inlet (hot) side clearance can also be mitigated by shimming the IC forward some, which may eleviate the need to remove and/or secure at another point. - To simplify the R&D process we stuffed the intake (hot) boost tube over top of the IC mounting bracket, yes it gives a strange appearance and they are deceiving... We won't know for sure until CPe starts... Edited March 27, 2018 by snmjim 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special_K Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 To all, after much trial and tribulation we have decided that the fusion intercooler is just no worth the amount of modifications that would have to be done. There is too much hard mounted objects in the way and way too many bends for piping. Sorry to give up after all this time. We have gone with ultimate performance intercooler with the Garrett core. -Special K & Snmjim 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikula Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 To all, after much trial and tribulation we have decided that the fusion intercooler is just no worth the amount of modifications that would have to be done. There is too much hard mounted objects in the way and way too many bends for piping. Sorry to give up after all this time. We have gone with ultimate performance intercooler with the Garrett core. -Special K & Snmjim keep us posted on what kind of results you see with this one. I've got my eye on one if they are worth the pennies! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtra Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) My Ultimate Performance intercooler with the Garrett core #002 for the G2 Edge Sport 2.7L EcoBoost just arrived !!! :happy feet: :happy feet: . The welds and workmanship are great and with almost 70% more area than the stock IC it should work as good as it looks. Big thanks to snmjim and Special_K for making this happen . They have #001 You can get yours here: https://ultimateperformancenm.com/shop?olsPage=products%2F15-ford-edge-sport-27-front-mount-intercooler Edited April 19, 2018 by Xtra 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikula Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 My Ultimate Performance intercooler with the Garrett core #002 for the G2 Edge Sport 2.7L EcoBoost just arrived !!! :happy feet: :happy feet: . The welds and workmanship are great and with almost 70% more area than the stock IC it should work as good as it looks. Big thanks to snmjim and Special_K for making this happen . They have #001 You can get yours here: https://ultimateperformancenm.com/shop?olsPage=products%2F15-ford-edge-sport-27-front-mount-intercooler G2 Ford Edge intercooler#002.JPG Do you have a way of doing some performance tests with before and after intercooler? I really am thinking about one, but I need to see some substantial gains in power. I know you're not much of a 1/4 mile guy, but maybe make some 0-60 or 0-80 pulls before and after and post what kind of results you see. All I see so far is people talking about temperature differences, which of course equates to more power, but i'm looking for real numbers, not temps. hopefully you can do this before you strap on those oversize hairdryers you bought! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLinNBC Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 I want to know actual IAT's, if the drop is near the 70* claimed by UP then I'm in. I know there will be some performance improvement but that kind of temperature drop will yield many other benefits. Heat is the enemy of not just power but also efficiency, longevity and more. The EB engines are pretty stressed out of the box and any meaningful relief of that stress will be worth the investment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtra Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) bump Edited April 20, 2018 by Xtra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Halstead Posted April 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 My Ultimate Performance intercooler with the Garrett core #002 for the G2 Edge Sport 2.7L EcoBoost just arrived !!! :happy feet: :happy feet: . The welds and workmanship are great and with almost 70% more area than the stock IC it should work as good as it looks. Big thanks to snmjim and Special_K for making this happen . They have #001 You can get yours here: https://ultimateperformancenm.com/shop?olsPage=products%2F15-ford-edge-sport-27-front-mount-intercooler G2 Ford Edge intercooler#002.JPG I believe you have #3. I had UP get an edge from a local cop friend of his and fab up the IC, he upped the price for me once he found out I was in Hawaii and killed me on shipping and the wife wasn't having the new price, so I found another buyer in James Bishop so that the process would keep going instead of killing the IC R&D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special_K Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 Do you have a way of doing some performance tests with before and after intercooler? I really am thinking about one, but I need to see some substantial gains in power. I know you're not much of a 1/4 mile guy, but maybe make some 0-60 or 0-80 pulls before and after and post what kind of results you see. All I see so far is people talking about temperature differences, which of course equates to more power, but i'm looking for real numbers, not temps. hopefully you can do this before you strap on those oversize hairdryers you bought! we are waiting for the cold pipe to come in at which point we will install the IC and cold pipe, do 3 or 4 revisions on the tune, then dyno and go to test and tune and post slips I want to know actual IAT's, if the drop is near the 70* claimed by UP then I'm in. I know there will be some performance improvement but that kind of temperature drop will yield many other benefits. Heat is the enemy of not just power but also efficiency, longevity and more. The EB engines are pretty stressed out of the box and any meaningful relief of that stress will be worth the investment. I will post after install in a week or 2. also these EB are not stressed in the least bit out of the box, if they were you would not be able to get over 80hp and 80ft/lb of tq from a tune. the only part that really should have been different that is honestly at its limit stock is the intercooler. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikula Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 we are waiting for the cold pipe to come in at which point we will install the IC and cold pipe, do 3 or 4 revisions on the tune, then dyno and go to test and tune and post slips Are you running unleased or LMS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special_K Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 Are you running unleased or LMS? Unleashed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snmjim Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 (edited) The Rambo modified IC Outlet/Cold pipe is ready for market! Ref new topic string with details: http://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/24279-intercooler-outletcold-pipe-upgrade-2015-2018-edge-sport/ Edited April 30, 2018 by snmjim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JScaro Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 I have, posted it in the FB group - GT500R You still happy with the results of your IC? Who is your contact at CXRacing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JScaro Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 My Ultimate Performance intercooler with the Garrett core #002 for the G2 Edge Sport 2.7L EcoBoost just arrived !!! :happy feet: :happy feet: . The welds and workmanship are great and with almost 70% more area than the stock IC it should work as good as it looks. Big thanks to snmjim and Special_K for making this happen . They have #001 You can get yours here: https://ultimateperformancenm.com/shop?olsPage=products%2F15-ford-edge-sport-27-front-mount-intercooler G2 Ford Edge intercooler#002.JPG Any Updates? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special_K Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Any Updates? The UP intercooler with the garret core is the best intercooler you can get for the platform as of right now. Snmjim and I have it on our edge and we struggle to get 145 degree charge temps on a 80 degree ambient day. That's with 0-120 pulls and some fun backroad driving. Hope this helps 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Halstead Posted May 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 cheaper garret core is in the works from Turbo Tech Racing, once they get the Fusion sorted they are progressing to the Edge 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikula Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 GT500R You still happy with the results of your IC? Who is your contact at CXRacing? For the money I think CXRacing is the way to go. almost half the price of ultimate performance. If you're going for every tenth you can squeeze out of it, ultimate performance (on paper) seems to have the best overall, but we haven't seen any logs to confirm any of this yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtra Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) And so the transformation begins > >>>. Edited May 9, 2018 by Xtra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special_K Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 For the money I think CXRacing is the way to go. almost half the price of ultimate performance. If you're going for every tenth you can squeeze out of it, ultimate performance (on paper) seems to have the best overall, but we haven't seen any logs to confirm any of this yet. The cxracing is nice for no cutting or modifications to stock parts. The UP intercooler has the best core and the best flow. FWIW Cxracing uses Cheap china cores... I've only used them for temporary use on my other builds until a custom intercooler comes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JScaro Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 And so the transformation begins > >>>. MUFFLER WRAP HEAT SHIELD FROM CABIN AND HELPS WITH NOISE AS WELL.JPG IMG_1529.JPG IMG_1530.JPG Is that your design for the exhaust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtra Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) Is that your design for the exhaust? Go here for the answer, bottom of page 2 : http://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/22741-mrt-axle-back-exhuast-for-g2-edge-sport-awd/page-2? Edited May 9, 2018 by Xtra 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikula Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 The cxracing is nice for no cutting or modifications to stock parts. The UP intercooler has the best core and the best flow. FWIW Cxracing uses Cheap china cores... I've only used them for temporary use on my other builds until a custom intercooler comes in. We have yet to see any data to support that statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JScaro Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 For the money I think CXRacing is the way to go. almost half the price of ultimate performance. If you're going for every tenth you can squeeze out of it, ultimate performance (on paper) seems to have the best overall, but we haven't seen any logs to confirm any of this yet. We have yet to see any data to support that statement. Thanks For the input Mikula, Have you changed out your IC or plan to, if so which are you thinking of? Aesthetics & build quaility is major factor for me also, that's why I'm swapping out my IC grill with the CNC'd one, so I can see that nice big & beautiful IC. I just hit 6,000 miles and really don't plan much till fall, Foxbody Mustang getting all the attention right now. I also just got the LMS tuner and going to enjoy that for a minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special_K Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) UP intercooler vs stock intercooler, all data done from 0-100 in like temps 19c vs 21c: Line color: Dark red flat: ambient temp Dark Red: TIP KPA Blue thin: Vehicle Speed Blue Thick: Charge tempUP intercooler: max temp: 68c tip pressure max is 256kpa Stock intercooler: max temp 68c Tip pressure max is 210kpa Comments: As seen with the logs the stock intercooler heats up with in 8 seconds of going WOT and sustains 68c from 55mph to 100mph, which pulls timing and is extremely hot. Boost pressure varies greatly from 170kpa to a peak of 210kpa (redline) due to restrictive manner of the intercooler and extremely high temperature. recovery is slow. Aftermarket intercooler takes a while to reach 68c and finally reaches it at the end of the log which is over 100mph. Boost pressure is consistent and is roughly 20% higher. recovery is extremely fast. Final thoughts: UP Intercooler is well worth the money. Note: Hopefully it will hit the dyno this coming Monday (14th),and a test and tune soon. Edited May 11, 2018 by Special_K 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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