mjonis Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 For those of you with a 2015/2016 Edge AWD, with the 4 cylinder ecoboost: What's your observed gas mileage? I ask because fuelly results don't look that hot for the Ford, IMO. But it's hard to see (without drilling down) if they're FWD, v6, etc. http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/edge?engineconfig_id=13&bodytype_id=&submodel_id= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lildisco Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) Guess I'm leading the pack, 2016 2.0 Ecoboost FWD Edited August 22, 2016 by lildisco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
037 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 I know someone with a 15' Sport which is Livernois tuned and he managed 29mpg over 400 miles. I think he's leading the pack, if he was always on cruise control....but that's not why you buy the Sport. I am doing my best and averaging 16mpg on the New York City cycle over the past 5,000 miles which includes standing perfectly still, moving perfectly slow, and some drag racing ;-) Smiles per gallon is very high with this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjonis Posted August 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Guess I'm leading the pack, 2016 2.0 Ecoboost FWD LOL, thanks! I assume that of the vehicles listed, only 2 (if I'm reading correctly) are 4-cylinder ecoboosts, one at 20.8 and 24.7 mpg. So if yours is with FWD, I'm thinking the other is with the AWD. Does yours have the auto start/stop thingy? Ford's site lists the EPA at: FWD: 20 city/30 hwy/24 combined mpg FWD with Start/Stop: 21 city/30 hwy/24 combined mpg AWD: 20 city/28 hwy/23 combined mpg So yours looks pretty spot on, IMO, for the FWD (regardless of stop/start) if I assume "combined". The other vehicle could either be mostly city driving. I'm mainly asking as the Ford and Hyundai fuelly mpgs seem a bit low compared to EPA numbers, whilst the Kia Sorento seems "above" the numbers. Although I do remember reading somewhere where Kia had issues a few years back with overstating EPA numbers, so maybe now they're "under-reporting"? I know when my 2005 Lemonox was first released, EPA was 19mpg city. After many complaints of hardly anyone getting that, they lowered it to 18 mpg city. I'm just a bit surprised that a V6 sorento is getting better observable vs. the Ford with the ecoboost. But I don't know much about engines. I was hoping more people would post their info on fuelly as 1-2 vehicles doesn't really mean "real world" as those could be outliers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lildisco Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) I know someone with a 15' Sport which is Livernois tuned and he managed 29mpg over 400 miles. I think he's leading the pack, if he was always on cruise control....but that's not why you buy the Sport. I am doing my best and averaging 16mpg on the New York City cycle over the past 5,000 miles which includes standing perfectly still, moving perfectly slow, and some drag racing ;-) Smiles per gallon is very high with this one. Was referring to the the pic i posted to where my Edge is the highest, not the highest ever or overall I am looking at a Edge Sport to replace my car when the time comes. Fuelly is a good thing, but I take it with a grain of salt. It kinda gets you in the ballpark, but how your fill your tank & your driving habits are different than others. My lifetime average is 25.5 according to the car, which probably is accurate due to traveling with the car, every gas station is different. Heat/humidity/altitude, etc. According to Fuelly, it's 24.7. We rarely get on the highway & most of the driving we do is around town & country roads. Also when the wife drives the car more (it is hers) the mpg's go down to 23-24, when i drive it goes up to 26-27 according to the car. I also notice that this car hates having the a/c on. It really kills mpg's (as with most cars, lol) I also don't have the start/stop thingy. I snapped these tonight while pulling into the garage. It's been really nice out these past few days & we haven't used the a/c as much. Edited August 23, 2016 by lildisco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWizard Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 LOL, thanks! I assume that of the vehicles listed, only 2 (if I'm reading correctly) are 4-cylinder ecoboosts, one at 20.8 and 24.7 mpg. So if yours is with FWD, I'm thinking the other is with the AWD. Does yours have the auto start/stop thingy? Ford's site lists the EPA at: FWD: 20 city/30 hwy/24 combined mpg FWD with Start/Stop: 21 city/30 hwy/24 combined mpg AWD: 20 city/28 hwy/23 combined mpg So yours looks pretty spot on, IMO, for the FWD (regardless of stop/start) if I assume "combined". The other vehicle could either be mostly city driving. I'm mainly asking as the Ford and Hyundai fuelly mpgs seem a bit low compared to EPA numbers, whilst the Kia Sorento seems "above" the numbers. Although I do remember reading somewhere where Kia had issues a few years back with overstating EPA numbers, so maybe now they're "under-reporting"? I know when my 2005 Lemonox was first released, EPA was 19mpg city. After many complaints of hardly anyone getting that, they lowered it to 18 mpg city. I'm just a bit surprised that a V6 sorento is getting better observable vs. the Ford with the ecoboost. But I don't know much about engines. I was hoping more people would post their info on fuelly as 1-2 vehicles doesn't really mean "real world" as those could be outliers. I'm not at all surprised (now) about the V6 Sorento (I was when we first bought it). We can easily get 31-32 mpg on an extended highway trip even running 75+ mph. It gets 22-23 mpg city consistently. Those are manually calculated numbers although the on-board computer is usually pretty close to that as well. Our '13 Edge Ecoboost was capable of 30+ mpg on the highway but you had to drive it like you had an egg between your foot and the accelerator. I did that once just to prove to my wife that it was possible. It was much more typical to get around 26 mpg highway and 19 city in real world use. Even that was much better than the six cylinder Envoy it replaced which got around 16 city and 23 highway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Do you happen to know the curb weights of your Edge & Sorrento, wizard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermans Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 I've gotten over 30 mpg on mine (2.0) on the highway over a distance of 50 miles. But then I also have had two hybrid since 2013 and and my driving habits have changed. I'll be taking a 1500 mile trip with the Edge in Sept. and we will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWizard Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 Do you happen to know the curb weights of your Edge & Sorrento, wizard? The Edge (FWD 2.0L Ecoboost) was listed as 3998 pounds. The Sorento (FWD 3.3L V6) is almost 300 pounds lighter at 3722 pounds. That surprised me because it certainly doesn't look or feel any lighter. Length and height of the two are almost identical but the Edge is almost 2 inches wider. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjonis Posted August 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 The Edge (FWD 2.0L Ecoboost) was listed as 3998 pounds. The Sorento (FWD 3.3L V6) is almost 300 pounds lighter at 3722 pounds. That surprised me because it certainly doesn't look or feel any lighter. Length and height of the two are almost identical but the Edge is almost 2 inches wider. Interesting. On the 2016 AWD Titanium and 2017 Sorento SXL V6 it's almost opposite for curb weight. Ford: 4078 Sorento: 4343 Didn't realize that AWD added that much, but apparently it does. I'd agree that the Sorento looks heavier (in my case, it is). Interestingly, the cargo areas are almost identical for the cubic feet they claim it can hold, but I'm going to measure, because I'm pretty sure the sloped roof of the Ford eats into that (as does the Hyundai, and even my Equinox). But maybe the trunk sits up higher. I have to write these down on my spreadsheets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWizard Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Our 2015 Sorento was the last year you could get the upscale EX V6 (leather, etc.) in a 2-row version. The 16-17 models force you to take the third row seating in the V6 EX and SX models. I like that I have the space under the floor where the third row seats would stow for use as hidden storage and I imagine the extra seats and associated hardware adds quite a bit of that weight increase in the newer models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjonis Posted August 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Our 2015 Sorento was the last year you could get the upscale EX V6 (leather, etc.) in a 2-row version. The 16-17 models force you to take the third row seating in the V6 EX and SX models. I like that I have the space under the floor where the third row seats would stow for use as hidden storage and I imagine the extra seats and associated hardware adds quite a bit of that weight increase in the newer models. Yeah, I know. I was so bummed that the 2017 they discontinued the SXL in the Turbo (the 5 seater model). Now for SXL you have to get V6 which means you have the stupid 3rd row and lose the storage. Forgot about the 3rd row weight, that would make perfect sense. But I'm going to test drive it anyway. trying to keep a semi-open mind. According to my calcs/spreadsheet, the under cargo storage area doesn't matter that much (ie, it's not like my #1 priority). I'll be posting my spreadsheet shortly (at least as far as I've completed it) for thoughts/ideas. Sometimes I miss things that I should take into consideration (like I just remembered to bring my water bottle and make sure it fits in the holder instead of flopping around like it does in my current car). Or actually measuring the opening for the rear trunk to make sure it fits whatever I may need to stuff in there (my Equinox is wider at the bottom than the top and it's burned me a few times going to buy something and then I can't fit it in there and have to pay delivery or borrow someone's truck). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
037 Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 So I chimed in earlier saying one of my friends holds the record at 29.4Mpg with his tuned Sport over 400 miles... My average as of right now, with 5,000+ miles is just over 16mpg as per car trip computer, Sport with the same tune as the guy above...so in this case, cruise control makes a huge difference. Also, my A/C is on 100% of the time, summer or winter, I don't like the noise. Seat cooling is also always on, passenger seat gets the seat heating, I never use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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