akirby Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 The dates wouldn't really matter since production didn't start until mid December. The vehicles are built based on priority so if your order was a priority 10 and there were no other priority 10s from that dealer in queue yours would be built first no matter the date on the other orders. Date is only used if there is more than one vehicle with the same priority and there is not enough allocation to build all of them at the same time. And again - they don't have to guess as to whether there is a delay with Electric Spice - it would be identified in the weekly dealer info. Your dealer is either too lazy to just go look it up or they're lying to you. Let me see what I can find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 I asked a buddy over at blueovalforums that works for a dealer. I'll let you know what he says. He's the one who preaches about this info being available to the dealers - he keeps track of it for his dealers and updates all the sales droids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoslick Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 The dates wouldn't really matter since production didn't start until mid December. The vehicles are built based on priority so if your order was a priority 10 and there were no other priority 10s from that dealer in queue yours would be built first no matter the date on the other orders. Date is only used if there is more than one vehicle with the same priority and there is not enough allocation to build all of them at the same time. And again - they don't have to guess as to whether there is a delay with Electric Spice - it would be identified in the weekly dealer info. Your dealer is either too lazy to just go look it up or they're lying to you. Let me see what I can find out. Akirby, Thanks for checking on this...They stated that they did not know if the color was the issue, just that it could be based on none showing up in there searches...My priority is definitely 10 as they rechecked that...I was sitting there when they called Ford reps and all were baffled as to why there has been no traction on this. The manager told me that my sales guy has bugged him at least twice a week checking on this as they value me as a customer. I told them I was not upset, but getting very frustrated by a situation that has now lasted nearly 6 months... Again thanks for taking time to do more research on this... In the mean time, has anyone else ordered an Electric Spice Edge? Is it similar to what I have ordered (see my signature)? thanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Hanson Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) Chicagoslick, my electric spice edge sport was built on Jan 25th, 401 package with vista roof. Eta at dealer 6-12Feb. Ordered start Nov... Edited January 27, 2016 by Harvey Hanson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 From my dealer contact: I've had no problem getting 2016 Edge's scheduling including the Sport model. Ford started scheduling retail 2016 Edge orders on December 3, 2015 so the "OK to Buy" status was established even before the Job #1 Date which is very unusual but probably not surprising since the 2016 Edge is strictly carryover. There were some intermittent commodity issues with 20" & 21" tires and wheels but they were minor and only an issue for a week or so. Even when there's a commodity issue, Ford will make every effort to make an exception and schedule a retail order for a customer. I think your dealer has an allocation problem and they're not being honest with you. Check with Ford on twitter or facebook and see if they can get you a better answer or call Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoslick Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 From my dealer contact: I think your dealer has an allocation problem and they're not being honest with you. Check with Ford on twitter or facebook and see if they can get you a better answer or call Ford. Akirby, When you say "allocation problem" does that pertain to a certain model of a vehicle or the complete line of the vehicle? thanks, I intend to ask the dealer this question and want to be sure I am asking the right thing... thanks again, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Akirby, When you say "allocation problem" does that pertain to a certain model of a vehicle or the complete line of the vehicle? thanks, I intend to ask the dealer this question and want to be sure I am asking the right thing... thanks again, Neither. It pertains to the number of vehicles the dealer has been allocated by Ford. Each dealer is given an allocation for each vehicle based on past sales performance and other factors. During each scheduling cycle (weekly I think) the factory gives each dealer an allocation (or none) and those vehicles get scheduled. If the dealer has 10 orders in queue but only has allocation for 2 then only 2 get scheduled that week. If they don't have any allocation that week then none are scheduled. I doubt they will admit that it's an allocation problem. Do they have a lot of Edges in stock? What's the dealer's name and zip code? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoslick Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) Last time I was there they had 5 in stock, but they were not sports. They are a small dealer, but have a larger presence within Indiana for all types of vehicles other brands. Hubler Ford, zip code is 46176 When I bought my Fusion I chose to go to Ray Skillman in the neighboring town because Hubler was behind on getting those at the time...Sounds like I could be caught in this scenario again... Also, should mention the last 2 vehicles we bought from them they had to make a dealer swap to get what we wanted... 2015 F150KR and a 2013 Escape SEL Edited January 27, 2016 by chicagoslick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 They only have 5 shown as either in stock or dealer ordered. Skillman has 33 with 12 shown as dealer ordered. Hibler either has an allocation problem or some other problem (Credit??) that's causing Ford not to ship them many Edges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoslick Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Akirby, thanks again for all of the information.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanL Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Received an email today that our edge is scheduled for arrival at the dealership Feb. 7-9. Date of order: Dec. 10, 2015 priority 10 (fairly large dealership) DOB: week of 2/1 (I'm thinking 2/1 build) was told at ordering 8-10 weeks, so right on track Details: 2016 Edge Titanium 2.0 AWD Bronze Fire/Cognac 301A Drivers, cold weather, trailer tow, cargo acc. packages A couple nits to pick: I wish you could get HID headlights without having to get a car that parks itself (would like to see it as part of drivers package). Would have considered TGTBB if it was offered with cognac interior, but do like bronze fire. Previous Fords were '89 Bronco II, '94 Explorer. Both of those were great vehicles. Have been driving Hondas since 2003. Very solid cars but not bulletproof by any means. Really looking forward to the new edge. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoslick Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 DanL congrats on your order...Post some pics when it comes in Harvey Hanson, congrats on your order, you should be getting it any day now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantmcf Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Just ordered my 2016 Edge Sport through Costco: Shadow Black 401A Pkg 21" Wheels Pano Roof Adaptive Cruise Cold Weather Pkg Cargo Acc Pkg Locking Wheel Nuts $45,553.71 + TT&L (minus any other incentives available at time of delivey) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 That's a great price. X plan is $46,621. Do you know the doc fee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantmcf Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 That's a great price. X plan is $46,621. Do you know the doc fee? The only fees on the quote were: Fuel Charge $39.71 Adv Assessment $720 Dest & Deliv $895 I'll have to ask what they plan to charge for the dealer documentation fee but it's typically around $100 - $150, right ? I hope they're not going to try and stiff me for something ridiculous. CarMax TTL calculator: http://www.carmax.com/enus/tax-title-tags-fees-calculator/default.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Wait - the price you quoted - $45,553.71 - did that include those other charges or do those get added on? Doc fee can be as low as $75 or as high as $699 - completely up to the dealer. Although Costco may have a set doc fee agreement as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantmcf Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 The price was the bottom line i.e. after all fees but before TT&L. Invoice Base + Options and fees: $47069.71 minus AWD Discount: $466 minus Costco discount: $550 minus Factory rebate: $500 Total: $45553.71 + TT&L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkush04 Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Just ordered my 2016 Edge Sport through Costco: Shadow Black 401A Pkg 21" Wheels Pano Roof Adaptive Cruise Cold Weather Pkg Cargo Acc Pkg Locking Wheel Nuts $45,553.71 + TT&L (minus any other incentives available at time of delivey) I can get the Z plan through a family member, with the minus incentives at time of delivery, I was told that if I place an order, I would get whatever incentives that would be available at the time of the order, or what would be available on delivery. Which ever one would be better. Does anyone know if this is true? While there seems to be little incentives at the moment, I am trying to wait until the auto show in my area to see if there will be any type of regional or local incentives at that time and then order then if I was indeed told the correct process. Sorry if that sounds confusing. I'm just trying to figure out how that part of the Ordering process works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 The price was the bottom line i.e. after all fees but before TT&L. Invoice Base + Options and fees: $47069.71 minus AWD Discount: $466 minus Costco discount: $550 minus Factory rebate: $500 Total: $45553.71 + TT&L Oh wait - $500 factory rebate wasn't factored in to my X plan price. Your price is still about $500 less. I'll have to check out the Costco discount when we get ready to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 I can get the Z plan through a family member, with the minus incentives at time of delivery, I was told that if I place an order, I would get whatever incentives that would be available at the time of the order, or what would be available on delivery. Which ever one would be better. Does anyone know if this is true? While there seems to be little incentives at the moment, I am trying to wait until the auto show in my area to see if there will be any type of regional or local incentives at that time and then order then if I was indeed told the correct process. Sorry if that sounds confusing. I'm just trying to figure out how that part of the Ordering process works Yes that's correct. Dealers have the ability to lock in your incentives at order time and you have the choice of those or what is in place at time of delivery. But only if the dealer does it when the order is placed. I wouldn't expect much in incentives for the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melltimejr Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Slightly off topic, but I haven't been able to find much useful on Google. We could pay cash for our vehicle when it arrives (been saving for quite a while) but feel as though we should get an auto loan for credit score purposes. Given Fords current lack of financing incentives, the rate for 36 months looks a lot better than 72; BUT 72 would double the length of time we have an auto loan, thus making the credit score people happy. So...my question is, does the size of the loan matter? If we paid the car down to $5000 or $10,000 the interest would be negligible, but would a small auto loan not provide the boost we're hoping to get to our credit? Just trying to play the game to our advantage...we're finding out that paying things off early can have negative side effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knickerbocker Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 So...my question is, does the size of the loan matter? If we paid the car down to $5000 or $10,000 the interest would be negligible, but would a small auto loan not provide the boost we're hoping to get to our credit? Just trying to play the game to our advantage...we're finding out that paying things off early can have negative side effects. Here in Canada, many of the banks won't offer auto loans for less than $7500. They gotta make money some how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 I'm not sure a 6 year loan is better than a 3 year loan. If you really want the credit bump I would get a 3 year loan for at least $15K and make sure it's paid on time every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoftyNotions Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Carrying zero long term debt, using cash-back or air miles credit cards for routine purchases and paying them in full on time EVERY month can get your credit score well over 800. I've never seen paying a loan off early hurt anyone's credit score. But I could be wrong. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melltimejr Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 We pretty much use the credit card for all expenses and then pay the balance in full monthly. Two cards total. Always paid in full, never late. No student loans, mortgage, or auto loans. Our bank provides a free credit score, and I'm in the mid 700's, I'd like to be 800+. One of the "dings" against me was a lack of revolving payments...I interpret that as them wishing that I had more accounts, thus my inquiry as to whether a long term (72mo rather than 36mo) loan might be beneficial, and if it matters if the loan is $5000 or $25,000, and whether the credit score guys "punish" paying loans off early and thus not having them. My only other "ding" is duration that the accounts have been established, but I'm young, so I assume it's just because of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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