Rpurdes Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Our 2007 Lincoln MKX indicated an odo data error. Besides showing the error the abs,wrench,check engine and low tire pressure warning lights came on. The speedometer went to zero. The worst part was the transmission was stuck in a high gear and from a stop required over 3000 rpm to move the car. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 A search on the forum will be enlightening Basically, you might have faulty wheel speed sensor(s), but the usual culprits are the TSS & OSS sensors (turbine & output shafts) inside the transmission casing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rpurdes Posted July 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Would you know of a Ford dealer that has repaired this issue? Everyone that I have talked to say they have never heard of the error. To drive the vehicle I disconnected the battery cable which reset it but also erased the error message. They couldn't do anything at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) I personally do not. They will need to see it happen before they can fix it. And I am sure this will happen again sooner rather than later. Did you scan for codes using an OBD scan tool? tsb07-21-11 6F50 TRANSAXLES BUILT PRIOR TO 10-21-2007āDTC P0715, P0717, P0718, P0720, P0721, P0722 AND-OR HARSH ENGAGEMENT, NO UPSHIFT, FIFTH GEAR ONLY 2007-08 Edge.pdf Edited July 15, 2015 by WWWPerfA_ZN0W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rpurdes Posted July 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 No I did not. I felt I had to reset it to drive to the dealer. I should have had it towed instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 It's kinda hard for the DIY'er not to "fix" the situation completely understandable! Just like going to the doctor's, how do you know when your cold is not just a cold ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Just get the check book ready. 800.00 dollar repair bill in your future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rpurdes Posted July 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Did you have the problem? If so who did the repair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our1stFord Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) This happened to us this evening in our 2008 Ford Edge (70k miles). Car felt like it was stalling* & it took a lot of pressure on the accelerator to move the car (but speedometer didn't move past 0), ODO Data Error Message came on; Airbag, Tire Pressure, & Wrench/Mechanic lights came on. There was also an error message about Tire Pressure Default or something. Ā I popped online now tonight to figure out what this could be - so glad I found this forum and this issue. Ā I have yet to see if the issue resolves itself once we turn the car back on. Ā Ā *The stalling issue is a quite frequent issue, I've experienced over the last 11 months. I've taken the car in 2-3 times but mechanics were never able to diagnose the issue and then later I realized, the issue clears once the car is turned off/on again. (Which is why the mechanic could never diagnose the issue, by the time we had it towed there, the system reset). But in the recents weeks, the car often feels like it lags and then kicks into acceleration - so frustrating!! Even more so because I had a 5 year warranty on the car that just expired 3 weeks ago but the issues were never able to be diagnosed properly during the warranty. Edited August 29, 2015 by Our1stFord 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halokel777 Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 I have the same issue on my 2008 Ford Edge receiving the ODO Data Error. Please can you tell me what your outcome was? I need to know what you did to resolve this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Simple. Have the TSS and OSS sensors replaced. That will fix the ODO DATA ERROR issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our1stFord Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 My memory is escaping me for the full details now but we took it to a trusted mechanic who found a 3 security sensor codes. The mechanic had it towed to a Ford Dealership to properly resolve the issue. It ended up costing around $1000, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worriededgeowner Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Same problem. 2007 Ford Edge with 125K miles, odo data error, wrench light, airbag light, faulty tire pressure light, speedometer went to zero and transmission stuck in high gear, occurred while driving 70 mph on interstate. Had to push gas pedal to the floor to get the car rolling again from a stop. Parked the car for 2 hours. After restarting the car, the transmission felt like it had fallen out of the car when shifting from park to reverse and from reverse to drive. The problem persisted for about 2 miles, then it "reset" itself and began to drive normally as if nothing had happened. This occurred on a Sunday evening. Ā Took the car to the dealership the next morning, October 26th, after receiving error codes P0720 and P0722 from advance auto parts. The dealership replaced the TSS and OSS. Ā Nov 11th, the problem repeats itself with all of the same error messages listed above. I have the car towed to the dealership. Dealership informs me that my battery is dead and they cannot run diagnostics on the car with a dead battery. The battery is only 1.5 years old at this point. Dealership replaces the battery, but is unable to diagnose the problem since the electrical system has been reset from battery being disconnected. I am advised to drive the car as normal and the next time I experience the problem, to drive it straight to the dealership without turning the car off (if I'm lucky enough to have it happen during business hours) as they cannot diagnose the car without the error lights on. Ā Dec 4th, I'm "lucky" enough to have the problem present itself again on a Friday morning en route to work. I turn around and head straight for the dealership. I park the car and leave it running so my service coordinator can experience the transmission problems for himself by driving the car into the service lane. He also leaves the car running. I receive a call later that afternoon informing me that they know for sure that the smart junction box has to be replaced, as it is shorted out, and that they are getting the same P0720 error code again, but that they can not figure out why the tire pressure sensor and airbag sensor lights were coming on - they can't get my car to produce codes, because the technician COULD NOT DUPLICATE the problem. turns out the service valet guy TURNED MY CAR OFF. When the technician went to restart it, he could not duplicate. As you can see, I'm beyond frustrated. any help or advice is greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Possibly need to do a KAM reset so that the PCM recognizes the new sensors. Also, may need TCM (trans control module) recalibration. KAM Reset procedure: Ā The PCM will have to relearn after the KAM reset, so be patient Ā I would ask the dealership to make sure the PCM and TCM calibrations are uptodate while the vehicle is there. They should do it for free, especially seeing the major inconvenience to you. Let them do the KAM reset if you trust them, or do it yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Classic TSS and OSS transmission sensor failures. If you do not replace them they will continue to create this problem. 700 dollar repair more or less. Once done you will be trouble free or at least I was. Same problem. 2007 Ford Edge with 125K miles, odo data error, wrench light, airbag light, faulty tire pressure light, speedometer went to zero and transmission stuck in high gear, occurred while driving 70 mph on interstate. Had to push gas pedal to the floor to get the car rolling again from a stop. Parked the car for 2 hours. After restarting the car, the transmission felt like it had fallen out of the car when shifting from park to reverse and from reverse to drive. The problem persisted for about 2 miles, then it "reset" itself and began to drive normally as if nothing had happened. This occurred on a Sunday evening. Ā Took the car to the dealership the next morning, October 26th, after receiving error codes P0720 and P0722 from advance auto parts. The dealership replaced the TSS and OSS. Ā Nov 11th, the problem repeats itself with all of the same error messages listed above. I have the car towed to the dealership. Dealership informs me that my battery is dead and they cannot run diagnostics on the car with a dead battery. The battery is only 1.5 years old at this point. Dealership replaces the battery, but is unable to diagnose the problem since the electrical system has been reset from battery being disconnected. I am advised to drive the car as normal and the next time I experience the problem, to drive it straight to the dealership without turning the car off (if I'm lucky enough to have it happen during business hours) as they cannot diagnose the car without the error lights on. Ā Dec 4th, I'm "lucky" enough to have the problem present itself again on a Friday morning en route to work. I turn around and head straight for the dealership. I park the car and leave it running so my service coordinator can experience the transmission problems for himself by driving the car into the service lane. He also leaves the car running. I receive a call later that afternoon informing me that they know for sure that the smart junction box has to be replaced, as it is shorted out, and that they are getting the same P0720 error code again, but that they can not figure out why the tire pressure sensor and airbag sensor lights were coming on - they can't get my car to produce codes, because the technician COULD NOT DUPLICATE the problem. turns out the service valet guy TURNED MY CAR OFF. When the technician went to restart it, he could not duplicate. As you can see, I'm beyond frustrated. any help or advice is greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worriededgeowner Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 They did replace the TSS and OSS sensors on my first trip to the dealership. Unfortunately, this didn't fix my problem. I'm going to try the KAM reset suggested above. Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majorahole Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 if you have a continuity tester or multi meter you can test the sensor wires for shorts, would need a wiring diagram tho. i have alldata, i will look and see if i can find one to post later on when i get home 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majorahole Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 here it is, might eliminate the wiring being the issue tss-oss.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majorahole Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 here's how to replace both sensors. does'nt seem too terribly difficult, just a lot of time! they're both very similar up to which sensor you're replacing. Ā tss replacement.pdf oss replacement.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightybonus Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) My 2008 MKX 81k miles is now experiencing the ODO DATA ERROR issue. Scouring the internet turns up the TSS and OSS being the likely problems, but this is the first thread I've found where replacing them did not help. So now I am wondering if in the event those are not the issues, how deep of a rabbit hole could be it figuring out the problem?Also, how far is it acceptable to drive in the "high gear" thing it currently seems to be in? I got off the road, into a parking lot and it has been sitting there overnight, but might have a go at limping it to the dealership about five miles away. If that's too far, there's an independant mechanic I've used before, only one block away. Edited May 22, 2016 by mightybonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Dealerships have been known to bungle easy repairs sometimes, so we don't know for sure the TSS/OSS sensors would not have fixed the issue for the poster above. I would not delay, take it to your independent mechanic to get the sensors (and all of the trans fluid) replaced. This is a pretty serious issue having gotten to the point of showing the error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightybonus Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Oh, no doubt I'm taking it to get it checked out. My main question now is how far is it safe to drive if it remains in the high gear/limp home mode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 I would be towing it, TBH. But driving it carefully, with hazards on, 1 mile in a safe area should be ok. I would suggest a KAM reset but I don't think that will help at this juncture. An independent mechanic should also cost less than the dealer for the repair/replacement. Be sure to put Mercon V in the trans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightybonus Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 I returned to the car this evening, code reader in hand. Got a P0720. Upon clearing the code I could actually hear the transmission "reset," a soft thunk. Car drove fine like nothing has happened. Ā Regardless, drove it straight to the dealer, and plan on insuring they replace those sensors. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 For reference, TSB 07-21-11 & code P0720 http://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/15231-anyone-had-a-problem-with-mkx-2008-accelerating-out-of-first-gear/?do=findComment&comment=116195 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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