Jesse Pokora Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Been reading up on where to position my drop fuse circuit to provide switchable power via relay. But I see conflicting reports on fuse numbers and what circuit the fuse is for. Also... It seems all the likely places don't actually turn off when I turn off the car. Is there some sort of 10 min delay before power is actually shut down? I cut into the rear seat 12v outlet positioned on the back of the center console to power back seat entertainment. The relay is tapped into this circuit before all the electronics are tapped. The whole set up works. It just doesn't shut off when I turn the car off... At least not how I expected. I've tried fuse#s 28, 10, 46 so far... No luck it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Yes there is a delay but the power points are hot all the time. The owner's manual has the fuse list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pokora Posted March 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) What is a power point? Yes, I've referenced the owners manual. I've selected fuses based on what would seem to me should be turned off when the car is turned off. So, I'm looking for a little bit more specific help on which fuse to select. Edited March 8, 2015 by Jesse Pokora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 12V outlets. Open the driver's door after turning the ignition off - that will kill the accessory delay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pokora Posted March 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 "Opening the drivers door" doesn't stop the power from going to the accessory outlet behind the center console... Nor does it cut power to the drop fuse circuit that is connected to the relay on the fuse numbers I have attempted so far. Do you have any suggestions on "specific help on which fuse to select?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 I just said that the accessory outlets are hot all the time. Opening the door gets rid of the accessory delay so you can find a suitable fuse location . You need a multimeter or a 12v test light to help find one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWizard Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) As akirby suggested, you really need to use a test light or multimeter to determine which fuse location may be ignition switched. Just because a circuit is labeled as something that would be ignition switched (something like the wipers for example) doesn't mean that the power at the fuse is switched. Many of these circuits are electronically controlled or powered through relays so the fuse may have constant power because the switching is done "downstream" of the fuse panel. Without a wiring schematic, you can't tell that except by testing. There are four types of power circuits - "constant" power is always on for things like radio memory and clock; "battery saver" is like constant - always on except that there is a controller that will shut it off after a certain amount of time to prevent battery drain (interior lighting is one example); "ignition switched" is on when the ignition is in the ON position (wipers and air conditioning are examples); "accessory" is on when the ignition is on and after it is switched off until a door is opened (audio system and power windows are two examples). The power outlets in the console are constant - on all the time. That's why opening a door doesn't affect them. Edited March 9, 2015 by TheWizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Some of the accessory delay is managed by the devices like the radio. It gets constant power and it decides when to shut off based on timers and triggers. It also allows you to turn on the radio manually for up to 1 hour. More flexible than cutting power to the entire circuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laricher Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 2014 Ford Edge SEL I have tried using a volt meter on every fuse under the dash. Every fuse measured voltage. I need to find accessory power source so when the ignition is switched to off, it shuts off my Dash Cam. It appears the fusea are directly wired to some control box or relay or something I am not aware of. If someone knows a wire or an exact fuse, that would be highly appreciated. I am probably over looking the obvious. Thanks Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 How did you test the fuses? Which tool did you use? Was the vehicle on or off or in accessory delay mode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) If you're trying to find the fuse for the power outlet, they are located in the power distribution panel under the hood in the engine compartment. The power outlets are hot at all times. If you're looking to wire your camera so that it power's on with the ignition, you could wire it as I did with my radar detector. I wired a special harness into the back of the rearview mirror (which does switch with the ignition). Bought the harness from Amazon. Do a search for mirror wire power cord (or simular). You will need to select one with the correct power connector. The power cord piggybacks into the mirrors power connector. On the mirror, pin #1 is (+), pin #10 is (-). (Mirror connector is numbered.) Edited July 12, 2015 by enigma-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mage266 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 For all you guys looking to hardwire a dash cam or something similar I used fuse 35, it controls Heads-up display and Headlamp leveling. It only turns on in full power mode or engine on. I have a 2013 edge limited fully loaded. I'm not sure if this would still work if you don't have the forward collision warning but worth a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgb21 Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 I used fuse 41 in this power outlet mod; http://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/2714-power-outlets-always-stay-on/page-2?do=findComment&comment=138234 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laricher Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 2014 Ford Edge SEL I have tried using a volt meter on every fuse under the dash. Every fuse measured voltage. I need to find accessory power source so when the ignition is switched to off, it shuts off my Dash Cam. It appears the fusea are directly wired to some control box or relay or something I am not aware of. If someone knows a wire or an exact fuse, that would be highly appreciated. I am probably over looking the obvious. Thanks Rick Here are my current notes until I can make a good video. This should help. Thinkware Product: Connect Power to Unit, Black Wire to Ground, tap Red to Continuous Power Source Fuse (Always ON), and tap Yellow to Accessory Power Source Fuse (Only when Engine is ON), got the schematics. basically for the Accessory power, you are going to want to pop the map light holder out and tap into the yellow/green wire. Then splice into the power purchase adapter cable for accessory power. You can also pop of the side window trim as shown in the video and tap the same wire and run down near the fuse box. The park mode of the camera requires a ground, constant power and accessory power which would all be easier to do near the fuse box verses the map light. Now if you are using just the regular power with no park mode then just tap off the map light. I have already ran that cable down to the fuse box and that's where I will pick up constant power and ground. No easy way on this on the ford edge. I didn't want to rip into the dash...it's a pain. Also note, that this same circuit runs to the glove light though, I didn't research were you could get constant power near there. Hope this helps someone else. I guess when I get a chance, I will probably do a video. Really, on the ford edge, there didn't appear to be any accessory power at the fuse box. It's all done through a module...got to love electronics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzvQrOL20zc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrmynorcal Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 Manual has a fuse diagram. I have the 2007 MKX, manual said Fuse 33 was unused (and I read on this forum it wasnt always on), but there was a 10amp fuse in there. Just the same, I used the add a fuse adapter (mini version) and ran a power wire to my center console 12V outlet. I have a bluetooth adapter plugged into that 12v outlet so I can stream music and talk hands free. Issue was, since that 12V was always on, my phone would pair with the car even when I was in the house watching TV. I wouldnt hear the phone ring, because it was trying to "ring" in the car, just see I had an incoming call. When I answered, I couldnt hear the person nor could they hear me because of the same reason. Needless to say, I'm happy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefduane Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 See post #13. Fuse #41 is a 'power on start' switched fuse. Works perfect for my dash cam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishx65 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Has anyone ever found a fuse that works with the Accessory Delay???????? I'm using a device that I would like to keep powered with the vehicle turned off until I open a door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 (edited) What do you plan to do with it? I power my radar detector off my rearview mirror circuit. It power's on & off with the ignition and stays on 20 minutes with the power delay or when a door opened. You can buy a custom harness (various lengths, made by Mirrortap) that fits your mirror and device for $40. Takes 3 Minutes to install. Here's an example of what I'm talking about. MirrorTap MTX Series, RJ-11, 15" Long, Radar Detector Power Cord With 2 Amp In-Line Fuse, Military Grade Taps, Made in USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00L2SVV2U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_ImfTzbPR0XMSM . Edited September 9, 2017 by enigma-2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lildisco Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 You can adjust the accessory delay in FORScan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted September 10, 2017 Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 You can adjust the accessory delay in FORScan As far as I have read, this applies to the newer Fords, so for the Edge it only applies to 2015+ models, not the older models. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishx65 Posted September 10, 2017 Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 What do you plan to do with it? I power my radar detector off my rearview mirror circuit. It power's on & off with the ignition and stays on 20 minutes with the power delay or when a door opened. You can buy a custom harness (various lengths, made by Mirrortap) that fits your mirror and device for $40. Takes 3 Minutes to install. Here's an example of what I'm talking about. MirrorTap MTX Series, RJ-11, 15" Long, Radar Detector Power Cord With 2 Amp In-Line Fuse, Military Grade Taps, Made in USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00L2SVV2U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_ImfTzbPR0XMSM . My 2011 SEL did not come with Bluetooth so I run a Kinivo BT which uses a power point and the 3.5mm auxiliary jack in the center consul. I need the Kinivo to power off with the accessory delay so my phone doesn't stay paired when I leave the vehicle. I've already rewired the center consul power point to go off and on with the ignition but would love it to function with accessory delay so I could carry on conversations when I turn off the vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 Best bet looks like tapping off the radio power. Radio stays on for 20 minutes or so after you power off, and located close to front power outlet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 Has anyone ever found a fuse that works with the Accessory Delay???????? I'm using a device that I would like to keep powered with the vehicle turned off until I open a door. The problem is the accessory delay isn't done for a circuit but rather in the module. E.g. the radio has constant power and gets a signal for the accessory delay and it determines when to turn itself off. So you can't just tap into a circuit for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 On my gen 1, delay power comes in through fuse 41, with addl power through fuse 28 for start and fuse 39 for vbatt (run power). They change this on later gens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 This might be what your looking for. https://www.infotainment.com/collections/all/products/12v-power-accessory-kit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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