mills2626 Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Looking at buying a used 2013 Edge Sport FWD. Car is fully loaded with 34k miles. Took it to an independent mechanic and the only thing the found wrong was it needs 3 new tires and an alignment ( 1 tire looks to have been replaced recently) Asking price is $27500. Which according to Edmunds TMV it's about $500 below price. They are willing to get me 3 brand new Pirelli Scorpions Zeros and do an alignment or get 4 brand new Hankook Ventus RH06ST w/alignment. They won't budge on their asking price. Offered $26500 and $27000 with tires ect but no deal. Is what they are offering a good deal in your guys opinion? Any insight would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) If it needs an alignment and one tire is missing bet is it hit something really hard. Check the car fax and if it was a one owner how did they get it. Damage, replaced tire of wrong type, alignment, = auctioned vehicle or rental maybe even a repossed vehicle. From what I researched quickly the price does not seem out of line. Now it comes to your negotiation tactics. Remember it is a car and ford makes a lot of them. Not the only fish as they say. Personnally speaking: shop around for others. Take the salesman or woman right up to point of signing anything. Talk and delay then say your deal does not work for me and then walk out, if they call back then good if not you are already looking at other vehicles. Edited January 31, 2015 by macbwt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mills2626 Posted February 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) Which tire choice from the 2 options they gave me? Edited February 1, 2015 by mills2626 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mills2626 Posted February 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 http://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory/p/Report.cfx?partner=CMO_0&vin=2FMDK3AK5DBA31239 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 The dealer installed the wrong tire? And had it aligned and now it needs alignment again? Something is not adding up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mills2626 Posted February 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Where do you see dealer installed wrong tire? It was aligned on 4/25/14 and new tire was put on 8/6/14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 It says they replaced a tire and aligned it. You said that one tire is miss matched. I am stating what the car fax is reflecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mills2626 Posted February 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 They are all Pirelli Scorpions. One is just newer then the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishx65 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) Maybe not a big deal but worn out tires at 34K throws up a little red flag in my mind. I always get 50+ out of a set of tires. Maybe someone drove it like they stole it or something is just off causing the tires to wear prematurely. Needing an alignment at that mileage is also a little odd. I've always driven vehicles way past 100K without ever needing an alignment. Edited February 1, 2015 by fishx65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mills2626 Posted February 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 I looked in the tire thread here and it was not uncommon for these tires to wear pretty early. Mechanic said everything checked out alright with the struts, etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bajaoutlaw Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Myou AWD Sport only got 22nd out of the crappy scorpions. Called Purely I they said normal. Went with Nittos, much better. When I did have cap tires they wore evenly. Something is wrong away.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bajaoutlaw Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Sorry, spellchecker went crazy. I got 22k out of pirellis. Crap tires never wore uneven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bajaoutlaw Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Walk away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mills2626 Posted February 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 So like you said, maybe it's just the crappy Scorpions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) 01/29/2014 30,272 Atterson Tire Tire condition and pressure checked / Tire repaired Terre Haute, IN 812-238-259608/06/2014 33,113 Nick Mayer Lincoln Inc One tire mounted and balanced Westlake, OH 440-835-3700 nickmayer.com Same tire or not? IDK. Also, could there be a cracked wheel from the tire repair? IDK. 22" wheels? Make sure they will cover any leaking issues (there's a TSB out on this, but may not completely fix). Ventus option is summer only. Top-rated on Tire Rack though. Scorpion is all-season. Better off with the Yokohama Parada Spec-X. Edited February 1, 2015 by WWWPerfA_ZN0W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 It smells of repossed vehicle, one tire replaced and then auctioned immediately. Not to mention the current dealer has been trying to off load this car for 10 months. I would look for another vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 I never get more than 25K out of car tires and 35K out of the larger utility tires. Temperature and local road conditions make a big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Btw - I agree with Kelly Clarkson. Just walk away...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishx65 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 I never get more than 25K out of car tires and 35K out of the larger utility tires. Temperature and local road conditions make a big difference. This amazes me Ak. I really have never gotten less then 50,000 out of a set of new tires. Well, maybe one exception was my new 88 Mustang GT back in my young punk days! I currently have 48,000 on my 2011 Edge's Michelins and can easily go another 10,000. I once got 70,000 out of a set of Bridgestone Revos on a 2003 F150 FX4!!! I'm about 50/50 city/highway in Michigan. Are you still doing those wicked 360s in parking lots these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC_ Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Mills- Not to get into your business but why the Sport? Don't get me wrong, I love HP. But I don't see the value of paying a few extra grand for just 20 more horses. 40-50 more HP is a different story. I bet you can find a loaded Limited or SEL for a lot less. 3 weeks ago I picked up a Certified Pre Owned 2014 loaded SEL AWD with 3,700 miles. One owner, clean carfax, vehicle was bought from the same dealer and the original owner changed the oil after 6 months and 2,000 miles. 20" wheels (chrome clad though), leather, Nav, BLIS, vista roof, remote cargo door, remote start, etc... I even got 4 keys and Weathertech Smoke window guards. 2014 Window Sticker was $42,000 plus a few more for dealer add-ons. Dealer was asking $33,000 but while I was sitting there they listed it on their website as an internet blowout price of $29,000. I don't jerk around with salesmen so I demanded the GM to be next to me to negotiate. After a considerable amount of time, I'm not going to pretend it was easy, I got them down to my price of $25,000. The next day the GM called me to cancel our deal and return my deposit because he said he was losing money. Probably because they didn't take down the web price and got a better offer. So I basically got a 10 month old 3,700 mile $44,000 car for $25,000. My point is this: 1) I'm one hell of a negotiator!!! and 2) If you're here to ask if it's a good deal, it means you're not thrilled about it and may have buyers remorse if you get it. My advice is to keep looking until you find what you want for the price you want. There are a ton of Edge's out there. If you asked me the day before I got the Edge what I was looking to buy I probably would have told you a Dodge Journey Crossroad. Opinions and opportunities can change that fast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mills2626 Posted February 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Because there are a million SE, SEL and Limiteds on the road and very few Sports. I just like the look better of the Sport. All the other models look like old man vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Mills on behalf of the OLD MEN go ahead and buy it. Experience comes in two flavors, Good and Bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mills2626 Posted February 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 No offense, just personable preferrence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishx65 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Because there are a million SE, SEL and Limiteds on the road and very few Sports. I just like the look better of the Sport. All the other models look like old man vehicles. Did you just call me an old man? I will agree with ya, the Sport is cooler looking. I actually thought my MKX was better looking then any Edge but That's because I'm 49!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 This amazes me Ak. I really have never gotten less then 50,000 out of a set of new tires. Well, maybe one exception was my new 88 Mustang GT back in my young punk days! I currently have 48,000 on my 2011 Edge's Michelins and can easily go another 10,000. I once got 70,000 out of a set of Bridgestone Revos on a 2003 F150 FX4!!! I'm about 50/50 city/highway in Michigan. Are you still doing those wicked 360s in parking lots these days? I think the southern heat and local roads have the most to do with it. My wife drives like a little old lady so it's not driving style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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