kws6000 Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Anybody know what the actual ratings are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Maynard Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Anybody know what the actual ratings are? Today Lincoln announced some stuff about there new 2015 MKX that coming out. They say 2.7 liter echo boost engine has approximately 330 hp & 370 lb-ft of torque. So it probably the same engine that in the 2015 Ford edge sport . http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1096252_2016-lincoln-mkx-debuts-at-2015-detroit-auto-show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b4z Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 (edited) The 6 speed transaxle that ford shares with GM on their front engine based vehicles has a tq rating of 370 lb ft. So that it is why the 3.5L ecoboost in the Taurus sho, flex and explorer sport has that rating even though it is 420 tq in the trucks. Also why the 3.6l twin turbo in the caddy xts is down rated to 370 tq vs. the Cts V sports 430 lb ft. The 369 tq of the 2.7 L is going to make the edge flat go. From idle to 1500 rpms there won't be much there, but hold the heck on after that. Especially when you consider that the edge is going to weigh in the low 4000 lb range. Car should be a fun driver. And I'm going to predict a 0-60 time of 5.9 secs. Maybe even a few tenths less. Edited January 25, 2015 by b4z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ono Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) Thanks for noting a gating factor – the transmission – in Ford tuning the HP and torque for the Edge. The 2.7 Ecoboost seems to be quite the engine. In the future, might this increase low RPM throttle response and address any perceived lag, even if not significantly improving reported 0-60 time? I'm guessing Ford and others are looking at any/all methods to address fuel economy requirements. ---- Electronic turbocharger/supercharger to avoid spool up lag, "provides full boost three to five times faster than a turbocharger, in only 350 milliseconds.”: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/1412_next_gen_volvo_s60_polestar_first_drive/ …triple-charging. Step on the gas and a Valeo Gen3 R70 electric supercharger spools up 70,000 rpm, drawing a peak power of 7 kilowatts from a 48-volt ultracapacitor pack in the trunk. (The ultracaps are topped up via the alternator and a DC-to-DC converter primarily during vehicle deceleration.) This produces some 22 psi of boost pressure, but it doesn't go directly into the intake manifold. Rather, it flows through two parallel Borg-Warner turbochargers, helping spool them up more quickly. The airflow from these two single-scroll turbos -- one fed by the two outermost cylinders, the other by the inner two -- gets combined in the intercooler before heading into the engine. The e-booster shuts down at about 3,300 engine rpm once the two turbos come online, and at their peak speed of 200,000 revs they develop 36 psi of boost. ---- Edited January 26, 2015 by ono Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Would be interesting to find out the current 3.5EB TT's spool up time. Due to the smallish turbos, drivers have reported NO lag time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) Since I do not know much about turbos....my question is based on my driving habits. I drive 90 pecent of more interstate or hiways, 60 -75mph consistantly. I do however on occasions park and idle for about 30 minutes to two hours (not often) based on this use anyone have an idea if a 2.7L turbo would be a good choice or should I stay with the tried and true 3.5L? I am not planning on getting rid of my current edge anytime soon, but wonder about the durability of this engine compared to the 3.5's proven durability. This of course could change rapidly with one small fender bender as I have so many miles on my edge a claim for a rock chip would possibly cause the insurance company to total it. Edited January 26, 2015 by macbwt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 The only reason not to get the 2.7EB would be a "lack" of consumer history. Otherwise, it should deliver better mileage than the 3.5 when idling simply because ... newer better tech/smaller engine. Turbos only come into play when you step on the throttle, Ford uses small turbos to eliminate lag. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 There have been virtually zero turbo problems on the ecoboost engines and they've been around for almost 5 years already with some going well over 100K miles. These engines were built to be turbocharged from day one - totally different than trying to add a turbo to an engine not designed for one. This is more comparable to the turbo diesels which have been around for many many years in heavy duty trucks and semis. If you want the extra power get the 2.7L EB. If you don't care about that get the 3.5L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 My memories of turbos go back to the mid eighty's which was a complete failure for most auto manufacturers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Turbos have come a LONG way since then, they have much better lubrication & cooling built in. However, there IS still the occasional occurrence of an oil line seal or turbo seal failure. TSBs out for those issues already. Like akirby said, more in common with the diesel engines esp. when direct injected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 My memories of turbos go back to the mid eighty's which was a complete failure for most auto manufacturers. Because those engines were never designed for turbos, and the turbos themselves were crap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I believe that. My leaf blower i have in the garage most likely could out perform those eighty models turbos. Because those engines were never designed for turbos, and the turbos themselves were crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Maynard Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 315 HP for 2015 Edge Sport, MPG out on Edge also http://www.autoevolution.com/news/2015-ford-edge-sport-rated-315-hp-and-350-lb-ft-priced-at-38100-photo-gallery-92033.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 315/350. Not bad for a FWD application. F150 is 325/375. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitz118 Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 315 HP for 2015 Edge Sport, MPG out on Edge also http://www.autoevolution.com/news/2015-ford-edge-sport-rated-315-hp-and-350-lb-ft-priced-at-38100-photo-gallery-92033.html Ford has not officially released the HP figures for the 2.7 EB in the Edge and the MKX. There is nothing posted on their website. http://www.ford.com/crossovers/edge/specifications/engine/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Ford has not officially released the HP figures for the 2.7 EB in the Edge and the MKX. There is nothing posted on their website. http://www.ford.com/crossovers/edge/specifications/engine/ You didn't look at the right website: https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2015/02/06/performance-and-power--2015-ford-edge-sport-certified-as-highest.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Maynard Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Ford has not officially released the HP figures for the 2.7 EB in the Edge and the MKX. There is nothing posted on their website. http://www.ford.com/crossovers/edge/specifications/engine/ I bet within next 24 hours Ford will also update there ford website with HP & MPG for 2015 Edge. They just announce those #s today according to date of article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitz118 Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 I bet within next 24 hours Ford will also update there ford website with HP & MPG for 2015 Edge. They just announce those #s today according to date of article. Scott Tobin says differently and he works for Ford/Lincoln. That website looks like clip bait. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwPg_701fto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blankster Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Did the mileage on the 3.5 AWD actually go down? the 2014 shows 18/25 (21) for a 3.5 AWD and the article indicates 2015 at 17/25 (20) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Scott Tobin says differently and he works for Ford/Lincoln. That website looks like clip bait Good grief guys - did you not see my link to Ford's OFFICIAL press release at media.ford.com? It's OFFICIAL. https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2015/02/06/performance-and-power--2015-ford-edge-sport-certified-as-highest.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Maynard Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Scott Tobin says differently and he works for Ford/Lincoln. That website looks like clip bait. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwPg_701fto Ok here another article that all over Internet today. http://www.autoblog.com/2015/02/06/2016-ford-edge-performance-fuel-economy/ You might have to wait until Monday for Ford website inputs MPG & HP of 2015 Edge if that person who does the website does not work weekend. But Blitz118 it official 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitz118 Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Ok here another article that all over Internet today. http://www.autoblog.com/2015/02/06/2016-ford-edge-performance-fuel-economy/ You might have to wait until Monday for Ford website inputs MPG & HP of 2015 Edge if that person who does the website does not work weekend. But Blitz118 it official Yes, I see it's official now. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kws6000 Posted February 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 Any idea why the power is less than in the upcoming Lincoln? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 Because it's a Ford. It's official because Ford released it in a press release. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitz118 Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 (edited) Any idea why the power is less than in the upcoming Lincoln? I'm wondering the same thing, but Lincoln is trying to differentiate itself from the Ford. I also have not heard any mention of the MKX having the start stop option. "More power, greater agility Leading the engine choices for the new Lincoln MKX is the available advanced 2.7-liter twin-turbocharged Ti-VCT EcoBoost V6. It is projected to deliver more than 330 horsepower and more than 370 lb.-ft. of torque, based on preliminary test data." https://media.lincoln.com/content/lincolnmedia/lna/us/en/news/2015/01/13/all-new-lincoln-mkx-delivers-personal-luxury.html Edited February 7, 2015 by blitz118 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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