rdonchann Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Oklahoma. Some years we have quite a bit and some years not. The past 2 winters amount to about 5 days total. Divide that into the ~2000 for the awd and it is about $400.00 per day. For that much we can hire a hummer for the day. If I get rid of it we will have weeks of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdd01 Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Drove the Edge to work today. Parked and open door and it stinks again. Going back to dealer next Thursday for 15k oil change and have this looked at again. I'm at two bad seals now. Also looked at Kelly Blue Book and trade in is only 22,900 on a fully loaded '08 limited. I haven't driven it for two weeks but was eager to dump it before but may ride it out for a bit longer since it is the wife car The trade in value is a bit depressing on new vehicle owned for only 8 months.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreamEDGE. Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Trade-in value isn't really going to mean anything, that's not retail value and I highly doubt you paid sticker for it. Retail is probably a couple thousand higher but what do you expect during these times? On a Ford? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vs08edge Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 8T4Z-7251-A and was installed on 1/22 at 8602 miles. Close to the part number they just installed in mine and then took for a test drive and still leaks. At least they took it for a drive to check it before they called me to pick it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Oval Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Close to the part number they just installed in mine and then took for a test drive and still leaks. At least they took it for a drive to check it before they called me to pick it up.What does "close too" mean. Do you have the part#? Check on your most recent invoice. The way these have been leaking the dealer needs to test drive before they give you the keys back. Mine leaked the within 2 minutes when I drove out of the dealership after the first seal change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vs08edge Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) What does "close too" mean. Do you have the part#? Check on your most recent invoice. The way these have been leaking the dealer needs to test drive before they give you the keys back. Mine leaked the within 2 minutes when I drove out of the dealership after the first seal change I asked them for the part number for the seal. My number was 8T4Z-7275A. They still have my car at the dealer. when they test drove it, found it still leaked, then ordered the whole PTU Unit..........Should be in Monday or Tuesday next week...... Edited February 21, 2009 by vs08edge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edge18 Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Well they changed the seal , took it for a drive and yup, its still leaking. They now have ordered a whole new PTU unit insead of just the seal. Willl be at least 2 weeks now! Now I have an issue about transportation. Without a vehicle as of Monday and they state that unless I purchased the Extended Warrenty it does not cover rentals....Would think Ford would p/u the rental cost whereas this is an ongoing problem with them...Any input would be appreciated .... Anyone else know if FOrd will pick up the rental cost? Call Ford Customer Service and demand a rental. The dealer gave me a hard time with this but once I opened a case with Ford it was taken of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edge18 Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Well they changed the seal , took it for a drive and yup, its still leaking. They now have ordered a whole new PTU unit insead of just the seal. Willl be at least 2 weeks now! Now I have an issue about transportation. Without a vehicle as of Monday and they state that unless I purchased the Extended Warrenty it does not cover rentals....Would think Ford would p/u the rental cost whereas this is an ongoing problem with them...Any input would be appreciated .... Anyone else know if FOrd will pick up the rental cost? Call Ford Customer Service and demand a rental. The dealer gave me a hard time with this but once I opened a case with Ford it was taken of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edge18 Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 The smell was so bad last night that I called Ford Customer Service again. I can't drive around like this until the BBB and Ford contact me. Will see what Ford comes up with next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galaxieman Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Well everyone my post last evening was a bit hasty. Soon after posting my wife came home with the MKX and asked me to come out to the garage. Sure enough the burning oil smell had returned and after opening the hood the smoke was also present. This means another trip to the dealer and adevancement to another step in the process. Not sure what that will be yet but my instinct is to begin asking to cancel the lease and start over with a 2009 or 2010 if they can assure me the design fault is remedied on the new models. We really like this car except for this problem and would gladly take another chance. There is just nothing out there we like as much as the MKX. :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreamEDGE. Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) If you did get out of the lease, why would you go with AWD again? It's obviously not fixed because if it was they would have the same fixed part on your MKX. I love AWD but if it's flawed as it is on this EDGE I would just have to skip it. Edited February 21, 2009 by CreamEDGE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galaxieman Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 If you did get out of the lease, why would you go with AWD again? It's obviously not fixed because if it was they would have the same fixed part on your MKX. I love AWD but if it's flawed as it is on this EDGE I would just have to skip it. My wife has been driving AWD/4WD vehicles since 1997 and is addicted to them. If I felt the AWD situation was not fixed I guess we would go to another vehicle but that would be tough. We really really like everything else about the MKX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyedwardsmith Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) My wife has been driving AWD/4WD vehicles since 1997 and is addicted to them. If I felt the AWD situation was not fixed I guess we would go to another vehicle but that would be tough. We really really like everything else about the MKX. I guess Ford doesn't do AWD. They did 4WD okay since I had a 1995 Ford Explorer that worked okay and had over 260,000km on it. But the problem that many of us are having with the Ford Edge AWD is an example that Ford simply cannot engineer a product correctly. Others like Toyota, Subura, Honda are much further ahead with the AWD technology. Ford needs to pick its battles - AWD isn't on of them - maybe 4WD F150 is their market? I am taking my Ford Edge back in a couple of weeks to get it inspected for the stinking PTU Problem again. Add me to the list of owners who are simply pissed at Ford. If you want to add your name to a list of pissed PTU customers check out my web site. I plan to send this list to Ford. Gary Smith SMOKIN EDGE Edited February 22, 2009 by garyedwardsmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galaxieman Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 I guess Ford doesn't do AWD. They did 4WD okay since I had a 1995 Ford Explorer that worked okay and had over 260,000km on it. But the problem that many of us are having with the Ford Edge AWD is an example that Ford simply cannot engineer a product correctly. Others like Toyota, Subura, Honda are much further ahead with the AWD technology. Ford needs to pick its battles - AWD isn't on of them - maybe 4WD F150 is their market? I am taking my Ford Edge back in a couple of weeks to get it inspected for the stinking PTU Problem again. Add me to the list of owners who are simply pissed at Ford. If you want to add your name to a list of pissed PTU customers check out my web site. I plan to send this list to Ford. Gary Smith SMOKIN EDGE We have had 2 Mountaineers with AWD and they were fine!! The Jap manufacturers are not ahead of Ford or Gm but Ford certainly missed the boat on the design of this system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreamEDGE. Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 We have had 2 Mountaineers with AWD and they were fine!! The Jap manufacturers are not ahead of Ford or Gm but Ford certainly missed the boat on the design of this system. The CX-9/7 uses a similar system with no issues. But you love the MKX, so I doubt you would like the firm ride of the CX-9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galaxieman Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 The CX-9/7 uses a similar system with no issues. But you love the MKX, so I doubt you would like the firm ride of the CX-9. A firmer ride would not bother us but the style of the MKX really stands out from everything else. Of course style is subjective so the Mazda probably looks better to some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreamEDGE. Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Actually, I don't really like the front of the CX-9 but in my extended trips with one, it's easily overlooked for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galaxieman Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Actually, I don't really like the front of the CX-9 but in my extended trips with one, it's easily overlooked for me. My niece has had one for over a year and loves it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galaxieman Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 I just looked at the Mazda CX9 forum and they are having an odor problem related to coolant. What a coincidence. Then I looked further and found this link. http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123695109 They are having very serious problems with the PTO. That doe not make me feel any better but at least we are not rowing upriver alone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreamEDGE. Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) That problem affected a small amount 07 CX-9's, the PTO just needed to be replaced. Totally fixed after replacement and not a reoccurring issue on 08's outside of the affected build date (if any - not sure) and 09's. So was the coolant issue, it was a recall and has been fixed. Edited February 23, 2009 by CreamEDGE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galaxieman Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 That problem affected a small amount 07 CX-9's, the PTO just needed to be replaced. Totally fixed after replacement and not a reoccurring issue on 08's outside of the affected build date (if any - not sure) and 09's. So was the coolant issue, it was a recall and has been fixed. Nice to know someone is being taken care of. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Oval Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Just to update, it's been since Feb. 5th and we still haven't smelled the 'burning smell". the car was supposed to go in yesterday for a complete PTU replacement. I called and cancelled the appointment. They will sit on the part for one week then send it back as they don't want a $1,500 unit in inventory. I'm bringing the car in to them on Thursday though for a free oil change and Dean, the Ser. Mgr. said they would check to see how much if any the seal is leaking. They will be taking digital pics of the chrome clad wheels that are chipping/pitting. My luck the PTU will leak worse than it appears to now. Still no answer in sight what Ford is doing for the fix, this is what Dean has told me up until yesterday. They just said replace entire unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangMike Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 (edited) What is Ford doing for your chipping/peeling plastic rims? How much are you asking for '88 GT ? Edited February 24, 2009 by MustangMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Oval Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 What is Ford doing for your chipping/peeling plastic rims? How much are you asking for '88 GT ?The Service Mgr. said they would be replaced, but we both agreed to wait till all the roads are clear here in Ma. I just want them documented. the salt is killing these, should of gone with the painted steel wheels. Shoot me a pm in re: to my Mustang ok? Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreamEDGE. Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Are you going to get him to replace them with painted wheels? Cost really can't be that much of a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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