exodus Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 This is the official pricing guide for the dealers it shows what the MSRP's will be. What the dealer cost will be. Also shows how much each option package will be. Edge Price.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Just FYI - those are the same dealer invoice prices you can get anywhere else on the internet. However that does not include the FDAF (advertising) fee that is a legitimate part of the final dealer invoice. It usually runs around $400 but varies by location. There is also a small fuel fee ($8 or so). If you add up the invoice prices add destination and $400 you'll be within $100 or so of the actual dealer invoice. X plan will be about $150 higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cab2g Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Can somebody explain to me exactly how the dealer hold back system works? Some people tell me that it's a flat percentage below the invoice amount. Others tell me that the hold back increases with volume sold on a monthly/quarterly basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 It's 3% but there are additional incentives based on volume and other factors. But honestly you shouldn't be concerned with it. Dealers deserve a little profit on a sale. Best Buy makes more profit on a $3K flat screen TV than a dealer does on a $30K vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cab2g Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 I just wanted to understand how it works. I specifically tried to avoid asking what percentage or dollar amount their discount was. I asked more out of curiosity. There is so much conflicting information out there. Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Sorry - so many people think that dealers don't deserve a single dollar of profit and it ticks me off. Of course they would pitch a fit if you asked them to work for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris92 Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 Dealers do deserve to make a profit but when you buy your vehicle it will depreciate dramatically when its driven off the lot. Now say you want to trade it in two years later they tell you your car is only worth 14 thousand. they end up selling it for 22 thousand. Thats a joke, and that is why people want to get a good deal in the first place sometime. basically they double ended the deal because they sold it to you for a certain price and get it back and sell it again for a certain price they never loose but you loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autoansguy Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Anybody knows specifics as to why Class II towing not available on the Sport model? Also would like to learn more about what "sway control" is. Thanks mucho, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Dealers do deserve to make a profit but when you buy your vehicle it will depreciate dramatically when its driven off the lot. Now say you want to trade it in two years later they tell you your car is only worth 14 thousand. they end up selling it for 22 thousand. Thats a joke, and that is why people want to get a good deal in the first place sometime. basically they double ended the deal because they sold it to you for a certain price and get it back and sell it again for a certain price they never loose but you loose. But the depreciation isn't caused by the dealer. It's caused by consumers. Nobody wants to pay full price for a vehicle that's been purchased and driven by someone else. Even selling it privately you get similar results. As for lowball trade ins - that's the wholesale business. The dealer can go to the car auction and buy a used car just like yours at wholesale prices so there is no reason for them to give you more than that. And there is nothing forcing you to accept a lowball trade in. You can sell the vehicle yourself at retail prices. I understand the sentiment and feeling dealers are ripping you off on trade ins but it's just an offer that you don't have to accept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Anybody knows specifics as to why Class II towing not available on the Sport model? Also would like to learn more about what "sway control" is. Thanks mucho, Sway control keeps the vehicle under control when towing and the load starts to sway back and forth. The main reason for no towing is the rear bumper design - can't accommodate the hitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimPA Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) Anybody knows specifics as to why Class II towing not available on the Sport model? Also would like to learn more about what "sway control" is. Thanks mucho, Welcome to the forum autoansguy. Ford's explanation of sway control on the 2014 Ford Edge. "Tow up to 3,500 lbs. when your Ford Edge is properly equipped with the available Class II Trailer Tow Package, which includes trailer sway control. It works in conjunction with the AdvanceTrac® with RSC® (Roll Stability Control™) to help maintain vehicle and trailer stability while you’re towing a trailer. Trailer sway control applies brake force to individual wheels and, if necessary, the system reduces engine power to help the driver regain control of the vehicle and trailer." "Standard AdvanceTrac® with Roll Stability Control™ (RSC®) uses two gyroscopic sensors to monitor both yaw rate and roll rate. This allows AdvanceTrac with RSC to help you maintain control whenever it detects wheelslip, understeer, oversteer or roll motion. It also helps maintain control in adverse road conditions such as ice, gravel or rain." http://www.ford.com/crossovers/edge/trim/limited/ Don't get me started on how plastic facia prevents the 2015 Edge Sport from having trailer tow option. I realize the 2015 Edge Sport uses the new engine designed for the 2015 F150. The quick answer is Ford believes the consumers don't want to tow a trailer with the Edge Sport model. Edited November 16, 2014 by JimPA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 For the 2011-2014 Sport, probably the main reason we're the 22" wheels. For the 2015, it is still unknown why. Even though the Engine is similar to the F150's, the balance drivetrain & cooling system are not similar to the F150. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimPA Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) Autoansguy - Here is a video from Ford explaining Edge's trailer sway control. [YT] [/YT] Edited November 16, 2014 by JimPA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimPA Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Dealers do deserve to make a profit but when you buy your vehicle it will depreciate dramatically when its driven off the lot. Now say you want to trade it in two years later they tell you your car is only worth 14 thousand. they end up selling it for 22 thousand. Thats a joke, and that is why people want to get a good deal in the first place sometime. basically they double ended the deal because they sold it to you for a certain price and get it back and sell it again for a certain price they never loose but you loose. Chris - I ran across this. The story was interesting to me. What day of the month you buy you car may be important as to what deal you get. AT THE CAR LOT The sales team at Town and Country Jeep Chrysler Dodge Ram in Levittown, NY, is hustling to sell their quota: 129 new cars by the end of the month. http://www.thisamericanlife.org/at-the-car-lot/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Most dealerships don't work that way although there may be an occasional exception. Most of the times the day of the week or month doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autoansguy Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 To JimPA, Thanks much for taking the time to research and reply twice to my questions about Sport trailer hitch and sway control. Can't seem to send a private msg. thanks until I have 5 posts. Ford just may drive me to buy the 2016 M-B GLC, which is available with Class II hitch. Oh well, what's another $12-14K to get what I want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimPA Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 To JimPA, Thanks much for taking the time to research and reply twice to my questions about Sport trailer hitch and sway control. Can't seem to send a private msg. thanks until I have 5 posts. Ford just may drive me to buy the 2016 M-B GLC, which is available with Class II hitch. Oh well, what's another $12-14K to get what I want. No problem Autoansguy. I had the same questions as you and just recycled my research. I find myself in the same situation as you, looking for a CUV/SUV that meets my needs better than the redesigned Edge. As Blitz said in another thread, consider waiting for the redesigned 2016 Lincoln MKX. The MKX may come standard with the 2.7-liter turbocharged V6 and you should be able to get the Class II Trailer Tow Package as well as some other options you may not of even thought of. i believe more details on the 2016 MKX will start coming out soon. If you end up pulling the trigger on the Mercedes Benz GLC, please let me know your impressions. I worked on German equipment and was very impressed with their engineering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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