macbwt Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 At this rate I see a class action lawsuit coming against ford. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanlynnj Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 my edge is 2007. the recall was for 2007 and 2008 . I have talked to my insurance company. they do have a plan with a lower rate. But then I am in a pickle again,, the car can't be driven for 3 months. So if it happed that it got fixed before the 3 months is over, too bad for me again. Just drove past the ford dealer where my edge is sitting. hasn't moved,,all covered with snow...was suppose to get a call from a supervisor from ford on Thursday jan 22, to update me on things...that call never came! so here i am in limbo. not knowing what to do about insurance, cant have my car, which i am making payments on and paying insurance on . and didn't bring any of this on myself!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) Contact your local news and see if they will do a story on it. UP the PRESSURE!!! Make it look like the Ford Pinto all over again. Edited January 26, 2015 by macbwt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I don't understand why your insurance won't cover you driving a loaner even for an extended period? And class action lawsuits for something like this are worthless. By the time it goes anywhere Ford will have fixed the problem and replaced the bad tanks and the only ones getting anything will be the lawyers. Save those for cases where the mfr refuses to do anything about a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I can not argue with your statement. No matter what Lawyers ALWAYS win monetarily I don't understand why your insurance won't cover you driving a loaner even for an extended period? And class action lawsuits for something like this are worthless. By the time it goes anywhere Ford will have fixed the problem and replaced the bad tanks and the only ones getting anything will be the lawyers. Save those for cases where the mfr refuses to do anything about a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanlynnj Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 it is the way my policy is, not every insurance policy is the same. my policy states that it will cover a substitute vehicle for 45 days period. which is think is reasonable. if a car cant be fixed within a 45 day period ,,there is a problem. Which in the case of this recall, there are huge problems. Non of this has been brought on by me. Ford has a flawed product , then tells me I may be waiting into the fall of 2015, then in my mind, they should make things right and I shouldn't have to worry about insuring a substitute car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 You can't renew the coverage/restart the coverage every 45 days? Technology wise, I am sure the insurance co could do it, not sure policy wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I don't disagree about the way Ford is handling this. I think they should either install a newer tank (even if it's defective) until it can offer a permanent remedy. Or buy it back and put you in a new one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnieMB Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 My 2008 Edge was not leaking when i got the letter in December... but the last 2 times i put gas, it leaked in my garage and smelled a lot... so to Ford i went to have it checked out... and they confirmed that it's the recalled fuel tank issue YAY i was told because mine is the 2 wheel drive only, the wait is "only" 6 to 8 months (so July to September 2015) and that 4 wheel drive are currently looking at Oct 2015 to January 2016 so i should feel lucky :o Apparently aftermarkets fuel tanks can't even be purchased right now and the last ones were selling for $6,000! How crazy is this!!! So i got a rental paid for by Ford and am hoping they will find a solution really soon because i already miss MY car even though my rental is the same category cross over vehicle :/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I will definately be going over the fuel tank tomorrow while I have it lifted on the rack and changing the belts. This issue of vehicle rentals would be of great concern, because I drive 50-60k miles a year. A small corolla would not work as a replacement vehicle due to equipment hauling. Big concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanlynnj Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Ford is paying for my rental. they just wont pay insurance. The Enterprise Rental in Olean, ny worked with me and got me into a comparable vehicle, Ford didn't do that. They didn't seem too concerned that I first had the Toyota. I have 4 wh drive edge. I agree, they should buy it frm me and put me in a new one. The Mastell Ford dealer/garage we took the edge to said they tried to find a temp. tank until they come in. I really don't think they tried too hard. Maybe instead of just trying that one day,,continue to be trying to find one. I am just at a loss. It is impossible to talk to anyone that gives a hoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Feel for ya, hope Ford steps up soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Maybe I should shop for another 08 at a ford dealer with lower mileage then offer to buy it at the asking price if they can phsically and documentally proved the fuel tank was replaced by the time of th sale otherwise give it to me for 1k dollars. Just got to mess with them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanlynnj Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 my guess is, non of the tanks have been replaced in this recall. The Ford Motor Company is not on top of this issue. They send recall letters to save their butts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 The recall letter essentially says sorry your car is the equivalent of the FORD Pinto fire and death trap, but since we do not have a fuel tank for you, you must stop driving it and if you do we are not responsible. By the way we sent this letter with no intent of really fixing the problem anytime soon. Please stand by and wait for us to contact you. No matter how long it takes. Just a little sarcasm inserted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 They send recalls because it's required by law to notify owners when a recall is issued. My guess is the tanks used on the 06-08 vehicles are no longer in production other than normal replacements, so Ford has to go back to the tank supplier and commission 200,000 units in addition to whatever they're currently producing for newer vehicles. You can't just wave a magic wand and expect 200,000 tanks to appear overnight. What I don't understand is why they don't just replace the ones that are actually leaking to buy enough time to get the replacement tanks for a permanent fix. Maybe there are too many of them for current stock. And if they can't do that then I think they should offer to buy back the vehicle at current market value and give the owner a fantastic deal on a new one to make up for it. Parking vehicles for months with loaners just doesn't make sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 The recall letter essentially says sorry your car is the equivalent of the FORD Pinto fire and death trap, but since we do not have a fuel tank for you, you must stop driving it and if you do we are not responsible. By the way we sent this letter with no intent of really fixing the problem anytime soon. Please stand by and wait for us to contact you. No matter how long it takes. Just a little sarcasm inserted. It's not always as easy to fix something as some people want it to be. Ford would not be parking vehicles and paying for rentals for several months if they could get a replacement tank immediately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) I agree to your statement about repairing the actual leaking tanks as any supplier to Ford should be able to kick a few new tanks out on a customized small run basis. I see custoized fabrication at my clients all the time. Not to mention making a customer park their vehicle for almost a year in some cases. If they told me that I would say then give me that 2015 Edge over there to drive if you do not want me talking bad and never buying again. I am curious as to who or what company is making these replacement tanks if Ford is not the OEM for them. Anyone? They send recalls because it's required by law to notify owners when a recall is issued. My guess is the tanks used on the 06-08 vehicles are no longer in production other than normal replacements, so Ford has to go back to the tank supplier and commission 200,000 units in addition to whatever they're currently producing for newer vehicles. You can't just wave a magic wand and expect 200,000 tanks to appear overnight. What I don't understand is why they don't just replace the ones that are actually leaking to buy enough time to get the replacement tanks for a permanent fix. Maybe there are too many of them for current stock. And if they can't do that then I think they should offer to buy back the vehicle at current market value and give the owner a fantastic deal on a new one to make up for it. Parking vehicles for months with loaners just doesn't make sense. Edited January 26, 2015 by macbwt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) I am enjoying a day off and got curious. I checked on some 2008 ford edges in my area and asked the sales persons if they had replaced the fuel tank. Each one did check and say no (good on them) but here is the kicker they said they could get the tank and have it replaced in a week if I were to purchase it. I left it at that....These dealers must have super secret suppliers the rest of us do not know about. Edited January 26, 2015 by macbwt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanlynnj Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 we will see tomorrow. I left a message for the supervisor that was suppose to call me on the 22 but never did. I called and left her a message, and reminder her that she was suppose to call and it is very poor for business. she made the date to call me with an update, I think she was just trying to hold me off for 2 weeks..My car has been sitting at the dealer since dec 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ls973800 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Each one did check and say no (good on them) but here is the kicker they said they could get the tank and have it replaced in a week if I were to purchase it. Was this the salesman you spoke to who said they could have the tank replaced that quickly? How did they know if the tank had been replaced or if it wasn't leaking? Try checking with the parts manager at those stores and see if they can get one that quickly. Saying it is one thing, doing it is something else. I don't understand either why there is such a huge amount of down time for some owners waiting for a new tank. Heck, sanlynnj should contact those dealers you spoke to, order a tank from them, and have it shipped to his dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 If the tanks are available they're the old design and Ford probably doesn't want to use them. They do need to keep some in stock for regular repairs not related to the recall. I think they just don't have enough supply of the old ones to change all the ones that are leaking and they don't have new ones available yet. Rock and a hard place for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) Stay tuned. I am currently uploading a video of a visual inspection of my fuel tank on Youtube. Unfortunately the observation and discovery was not what I was hoping for. My vent and filler neck connections areas are bubbled up terribly with rust. I am hoping the tanks come in sooner rather than later. The video will show what is happening to the tanks. Edited January 29, 2015 by macbwt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) Below is the link to the fuel tank inspection I performed on my 2008 Ford Edge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2eQ2tM7rKk&feature=youtu.be I have not seen any videos of this so thought I would investigate the issue since I had the vehicle up on the lift today. Edited January 29, 2015 by macbwt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Not very encouraging, hopefully just surface rust though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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