jcrmadden Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Alright Mod and Tech, I'm about to do an engine swap on my '07 Edge. At 179K I broke a rod (so I'm told - they didn't actually break into the engine to see). I'm breaking it down myself this weekend to see what I've got going on in there. At any rate if I end up swapping the engine I'm looking at the 3.5 in the Taurus SHO. Besides engine management system changes what else do I need to keep in mind. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdgenlxi Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) Just know what you're getting into and realize that there is likely gonna be a bit of custom stuff needed to make it work. EcoBoost is a whole other animal from the regular 3.5. I'm not saying it can't be done, just saying be ready for a project. And remember the SHO (and all 3.5 EB FWD) uses a stronger trans as well..... 6F55 vs 6F50. Not a huge difference but still Edited July 19, 2014 by thirdgenlxi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcrmadden Posted July 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Always ready for a project. I'm dropping a stocker back in it though. I found one w/ 45k with a one year warranty for $595, no shipping, and no core. Can't be mad about that. It'll get my Edge back on the road and I can rebuild the one that come out of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 I'm sure we wouldn't mind your documenting whatever road you decide to go down on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcrmadden Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Will do. New engine gets here Friday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdgenlxi Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 I'm curious to what actually happened to the old motor too. I've been working in a dealer shop since 2007 when the Edges first came out and I've never seen one single engine or transmission failure.... ever. Just weird..... but I suppose anything is possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcrmadden Posted July 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I'll be dropping the pan this evening to get a look at the bottom end. It acts like a spun bearing. It will start and idle fine but there's a loud chatter at start up. It dies down to a ticking as the engine settles to its' idle speed. If you get the engine up to about 1500 rpms there's a screech and the engine seizes up. If you let it set for just a minute it will start right back up no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcrmadden Posted July 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 So, apparently Ford build the entire Edge around the oil pan. It's attached to, well, pretty much everything else under the hood. The exhaust Y pipe covers the pan so you have to drop that first (you're going to want to stock up on PB blaster and have a hefty breaker bar for this one). Also, the oil pan doubles as the mounting bracket for the a/c compressor pump. That means you have to remove tension from the belt that runs on the compressor so you can remove the compressor from the oil pan. To do that you have to remove the passenger side tire and inner fender to get to the belt tensioner (or cut the belt like I did). The oil pan is attached to the front catalytic converter mounting bracket so that had to go. Lucky for me the nuts were rusted beyond recognition and rounded off with ease. I should have taken the time to cut the bolts off but I used brute force and mechanical advantage to bend the bracket out of the way. It worked but I don't recommend doing it that way; I snapped the bracket on the front of the engine that I was prying against. There were still serious clearance issues with the pan being sandwiched between the front catalytic converter and the transmission mount. Also, there were at least a gazillion bolts to remove. When you think you've gotten all of them start looking for the "secret" bolts (hint: they're in hard to reach areas). It took almost two hours, one "frustration" break, two skinned knuckles, one beer, and a dab of cursing to do it, but I finally got the pan out from under it. I did take a ton of photos. What's the best way to upload those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 I'd host them on photobucket so you can control the albums/layout, then link them there. You can upload them to a gallery here, but they all get dumped into one album. Space is also limited here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdgenlxi Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 As mentioned, photobucket is awesome for picture hosting. Just note that this forum is kinda weird, in that you can't use photobuckets "IMG" code to direct copy and paste into the forum, you've got to use the "direct link" and then paste it into the image URL box using the image button above (green square). Not sure why the typical IMG codes don't work on this forum like they do most others.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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