rocketace1 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 In my limited knowledge with the Edge (only a couple months ownership), the Sport with paddles does NOT have the +/- shift point on the gear knob, hence your MKX with the +/- may not be necessarily wired to accept the paddles... Get my point? I could be totally wrong tho'... Good luck on this project and let us know if you do succeed on it. I will surely be interested for curiosity sake... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted August 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Just need to spare some time to remove the bottom cover of the steering column & look at the wires. The heat is also not helping! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted August 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 In my limited knowledge with the Edge (only a couple months ownership), the Sport with paddles does NOT have the +/- shift point on the gear knob, hence your MKX with the +/- may not be necessarily wired to accept the paddles... Get my point? I could be totally wrong tho'... Good luck on this project and let us know if you do succeed on it. I will surely be interested for curiosity sake... Yes, the Sport does not have the +/- button on the shift lever. Nor does the 2013 MKX that has Paddle shifters, you get either the shifter button or the paddles, but the wiring diagram doesn't seem to show it like that, my understanding of the diagram is that the wires for the shifter are the same for all Edges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Wiring diagrams don't really show what is there and what isn't. They will show you where the wire would be if you had the option, but they will not tell you which ones are deleted when you don't have certain options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2011edgese Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 So what happened with this project? Did you actually get it to work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted April 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Unfortunately no! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2011edgese Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Ahh i see. Too bad. :[ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted May 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 I didn't know how to tackle the issue, so I just stopped. Would like to get working if any ideas came on how to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2011edgese Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 You hit a road block of knowledge. I'll keep a sure out on any info i can gather and relay it to you if any comes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinnamonEdge Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Looking at this diagram I dont see a reason you couldnt have both controls! if you look at it you'll notice the paddle shifter is an open circuit that shifts when closed. So you should be able wire the paddle shifters up with out removing functionality of the selectshift button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Yes, the diagram shows like that. But still, don't want to open up the dash & steering column unless I know what I will be doing or what to find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted March 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 Trying to get this to work, anyone can help with diagrams for component locations for the 2011-2014 Edge/MKX? specifically in the dash area, something like this for the Explorer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 Hope this helps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmozer Posted December 30, 2024 Report Share Posted December 30, 2024 Hi there, reviving an almost 10-year old topic here, but I am really trying to get the paddle shifters working on my Explorer Limited 2011. Engine and electronics wise it is pretty much the same. Here is what I have done so far: Purchased and replaced a Sports trim steering wheel with paddle shifters - no big deal here, the wheel itself is plug and play. After thinking this was it, I realized that the paddle shifters did not shift. After reviewing the wiring diagrams and removing the airbag (always disconnect the battery!) I confirmed that the clockspring and steering column control module (SCCM) do have the required pins and the paddle shifter connections just run straight through them. But the male connector pluging into the SCCM does not have the required pins/wiring for the paddle shifters. Installed the missing wiring to connect the paddle shifters with the transmission/powertrain control module - I purchased a 26-pin from Aliexpress (under $10 - compared to over $100 for the OEM pigtail) as I needed the extra pins. There are three pins missing in the SCCM connector C2414A - pins no. 3 (Shift UP - gray wire), 4 (Shift DOWN - green wire with a violet line) and 5 (CTRL/Signal return - yellow wire wit a violet line). I added these pins and wires and then routed these to the 8-pin floorshifter connector (C2008), where I soldered the new wires onto the existing pins no. 8(CTRL,Signal return), 9 (Shift UP), 10 (Shift DOWN). I used 20AWG wire and bought just basic yellow and green wires and then pulled it pressing against a violet paint maker tip to get the proper coloring. The above brought the paddle shifters to life, but they function the same way as plus/minus on the floor shifter, i.e. you must shift to Manual to be able to use them. I double checked the connectivity and when the paddle shifters are pressed there is a closed circuit between the UP or DOWN shift and CTRL, which is the way it should work. I am however, suspicious, that some programming has to be done to the PCM or elsewhere to allow this temporary shifting function I am after. At this moment the PCM does not react to the UP/DOWN signals coming when in the Drive mode. I compared PCM codes from the as build databases between the Edge Sport (2011 and 2012) as these are non-turbocharged vehicles (3.7 displacement though) and the PCM is the same as in my Explorer (even the pin numbers match), but could not identify anything related to the transmission function differences. The PCM route is also confirmed by this Ford service bulletin - https://www.fordservicecontent.com/pubs/content/~WT/~MUS~LEN/3583/tsb13-03-15.pdf My main goals with this project are: 1. Get the paddle shifters to work in the Drive mode, not just in Manual 2. Disable the auto switching to the tacho when the Manual mode is selected - this was the setting of the cluster in Edge Sport 2011 - see p. 33 in the Edge 2011 owners manual and compare to the 2012 Edge or 2011 Explorer. 3. Show gear in the instrument cluster at all times - not just when in the Manual mode - mentioned that some tunes enable this feature (got a confirmation from HP tuners, that this can be done using their tuner) If anyone has made some progress beyond what I have described, please, share your knowledge. Many thanks and regards, Vlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted December 31, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2024 14 hours ago, vmozer said: My main goals with this project are: 1. Get the paddle shifters to work in the Drive mode, not just in Manual 2. Disable the auto switching to the tacho when the Manual mode is selected - this was the setting of the cluster in Edge Sport 2011 - see p. 33 in the Edge 2011 owners manual and compare to the 2012 Edge or 2011 Explorer. 3. Show gear in the instrument cluster at all times - not just when in the Manual mode - mentioned that some tunes enable this feature (got a confirmation from HP tuners, that this can be done using their tuner) Never got to complete my project as I switched to a 2016 Edge Sport around the same time. For no. 1 & 3 as far as I know, both are in the PCM. Not possible with ForScan or wiring. I couldn't find anything online on how to change them. Another function that was added in newer models, 2018 or 2019 (not exactly sure) when in sport mode and you pull a paddle (entering manual mode) is the ability to pull/hold a paddle for a short time to exit manual shifting mode and revert to sport mode. For no. 3, also in the PCM and as you found out, it can be done with some tuners, however, not with Livernoise as I have it and couldn't enable it for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wubster100 Posted December 31, 2024 Report Share Posted December 31, 2024 Unique to the 2011 Ford Edge Sport is that the paddle shift activation is “live in drive,” which means the customer doesn’t have to shift to “M” or manual mode. Instead, while in Drive, the driver can pull the “+” paddle on the right side of the steering wheel or “-” paddle on the left side of the steering wheel to shift up or down gears. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmozer Posted Wednesday at 10:17 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 10:17 PM Hi Omar and thanks for the info...I will try to investigate the PCM element of it a bit more. Wubster100, the live in drive feature is / should be available on all Sport trim Edges not just the 2011 year. I have checked the owners manual for 2013 and it is mentioned there. As mentioned earlier the difference is that the PCM is "listening" to the paddle shifters at all times, not only when in M or S gear. Just to add the +- knob and paddle shifters are the same thing wiring wise when you look at the diagrams. It is just a matter of PCM software setting. Unfortunately, despite the 3.5 and 3.7 engines being quite common, relatively little is known about the inner workings of their PCMs as they are not the hottest candidates for tuning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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