briandye Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) Yet another HID thread, I know right? Cant find a direct answer in any of the threads I searched through, and ive been reading for almost an hour. I have a 2009 Edge. 1. Can these housings handle a 55w kit? I have a 50~ mile trip home from work everynight, dark highway and I need some more light. (I know with any vehicle, a wire harness is needed for a 55w kit) 2. If I go with a 35w kit, do I need a harness? 3. What do I need for fog light installs? (35w definitely, since its a small housing.) Ive read numerous bulb types and whatnot, so I am confused. Again, this is for a 2009 Edge, no projectors or anything, all stock. Sylvania light guide shows me H11 for both headlight and foglight applications. Can someone verify the foglight? Edited March 7, 2014 by briandye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briandye Posted March 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 (If it matters, ill be going with a DDM Tuning kit, since ive had roughly 4-5 kits from them problem free.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) So far, no one has complained of HIDs (even at 55W) melting their housings, stock lights are 55W (hi's are 65W). Should be fine. Normally, would not need a harness with at 35W kit, a few exceptions do apply due to some variability in the Edge's electrical systems. I'd order harnesses if you are pressed for time to begin with, otherwise wait and see. Do allow for other other faulty componentry including bulbs/ballasts. Patience. May even want to order double the kits to have replacements on hand, tho that is no guarantee. Foglights are H11. Edited March 7, 2014 by WWWPerfA_ZN0W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briandye Posted March 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 Thanks for the info, I went with a 55w 6000k kit with a harness. I've only recently bought newer cars like this, so this "pulsed" electronic systems and whatnot are foreign to me, all my first vehicles were straight power and heavier gauge wiring so there was no error eliminators, canbus, etc lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshj84 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I figured i'd hop on this as well but with a diff question... Has anyone had their HID's not fire up 100% of the time when the headlights are set to auto on? Meaning one light turns on vs both? (already replaced bulbs and ballasts) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Quite a few instances of this happening, and reported on this forum. Possible weak point is the headlamp switch with both signal and power running thru it. May work better with power directly tied to battery, with otherwise stock type wiring through the switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshj84 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Ahh gotcha.. good to know! Has anyone found a remedy for it other than drawing power from the battery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candurin Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 You can try and add capacitors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Edge Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) HID Bulbs draw HUGE power when igniting then settle down to less power than halogens when operating. Therein lies the problem. Capacitors are recommended by many sellers to work around this problem but I find the battery to be the ultimate capacitor Folks have posted on here that they have used capacitors and it worked while others say it didnt do any good. Considering the Body Control module provides the power for the headlights I would rather not fry that thing over not wanting to install a harness with a relay. Edited March 19, 2014 by 12Edge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch15 Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 My headlights are very weak and blurry. I installed HID kit thinking that would solve the problem and it did. My visibility went up exponentially and was very pleased with the results. I went to a Ford dealer to align the height of the beam since they were pointing too high. When I got it back, they were aligned but the headlights now look very weak, unfocused etc. I checked the bulbs and swapped out the ballasts and didn't fix the issue. I asked the dealer what he had done to it, and they just said "we only aligned the headlights like you had asked". I really need the help since I drive in the mountains pretty regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Have you checked the bulb installations? Maybe they put OEM bulbs back in or otherwise fiddled with their position in the headlight? Also, are the lenses on the headlights clear, or are they aged/yellow/etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjsockett Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Usually if you're beam pattern isn't solid the bulb is not seated correctly. If you only have 2 tabs inserted you will get strange rings in the beam and the won't be centered or bright. This isn't my video but it shows what I'm talking about. The left beam has a bad ring rather than solid light and these beams actually cross in just a few feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch15 Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Have you checked the bulb installations? Maybe they put OEM bulbs back in or otherwise fiddled with their position in the headlight? Also, are the lenses on the headlights clear, or are they aged/yellow/etc? The headlights are clear practically new looking. I checked the seating of the bulbs and double checked the wiring and everything looks correct. I don't get the rings, but it's not as powerful as it should look. I may just buy a new setup and just get the 35w ballasts instead of the 55w which are in it right now. I know this is a different car/headlight housing but in my Mazda 3 the beam is crisp, wide and clear beam with the 35w and they look more powerful than the 55w that's currently in the Edge. In that video clip, even though they weren't installed properly, they are look way more crisp than mine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predapio Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Trust me, the 55W are what you want. They are definitely brighter than the 35W's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Have you checked the alignment yourself (per the owner's manual)? Maybe the dealer didn't do it right? No accidents with damage to the front/sides? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjsockett Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 The headlights are clear practically new looking. I checked the seating of the bulbs and double checked the wiring and everything looks correct. I don't get the rings, but it's not as powerful as it should look. I may just buy a new setup and just get the 35w ballasts instead of the 55w which are in it right now. I know this is a different car/headlight housing but in my Mazda 3 the beam is crisp, wide and clear beam with the 35w and they look more powerful than the 55w that's currently in the Edge. In that video clip, even though they weren't installed properly, they are look way more crisp than mine... Can you try to post pictures of your beam pattern about 5 feet from a wall and then about 15 feet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch15 Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 I have the 35w on the left and the 55w on the right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 What year Edge (11+?)? Details on your HID kit? Brand/color temperature? 55W HID should be powered directly from battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candurin Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 I have the 35w on the left and the 55w on the right 8k? Good luck in the rain... Beam pattern looks good though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 I am still thinking "fogged" assemblies that could clear up with a bit of polishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjsockett Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 I have the 35w on the left and the 55w on the right What kit are you using? The beam pattern looks good, but the color looks terrible. Either their is something wrong with the kit, which is rather unlikely because it's even on both sides, or your color temperature is just to high to get a really clean light. It looks like 8000K+, it's very purple in these images. At 55w you should be at about 5000K for the best output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch15 Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 They're actually supposed to be 55w 4300k. it's a 2012 edge and it's always parked in the garage during the daytime and they're not fogged one bit. I have a relay kit installed directly from the battery. I ordered new bulbs to see if the one's I have are toast... They're supposed to be mailed by the end of this week. Could there be any spacing issues between the bulb and the housing cause everything looks flush. On the lower image, the beam used to hit the side of the right wall... Now it doesn't after ford "aligned" them... I must say, I appreciate the help and feedback from everyone!!! I'm almost to the point that I will ready take a bat to the headlights and buy new ones... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Does the '12 Edge use a mechanical shutter to switch from Hi to Lo Beam? Could a malfunction with the shutter cause this type of problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjsockett Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Does the '12 Edge use a mechanical shutter to switch from Hi to Lo Beam? Could a malfunction with the shutter cause this type of problem? I don't think so, that would just make the beam cutoff higher. Unless the shutter malfunctioned and to compensate they aimed the bulbs really low at the dealer. I have the Morimoto 55w 5000k Kit and for me at 15 feet away there is no defined beam pattern like you have, it's just solid even light. The only thing that makes sense to me at this point would be something in the relay not providing enough power. It would be very unlikely for both ballasts, both bulbs, or both shutters to fail at the exact same time. The bulb color seams very strange too, even when mine first fire they are nowhere near that purple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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