Van G Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 The Vista Roof on our '10 Edge has always been slow but its now getting to the point that it is extremely slow for the last 10" of closing. We've had dealer look at the issue each time we had it in for servicing since new (under warranty). Took it back this past week and they still claim that the motors pass all diagnostic and that the roof rails need cleaning and resetting? Asked me if I parked under a tree as they were very dirty (which we don't). Seems odd that this had been done multiple times with little success. Is this a service I can do instead of paying for 2 hours labour at the dealer? I've seen the 3 videos from a gentlemen addressing the 'fail to close' issue but he only speaks to cleaning the grease from the rails and then lubricating, not 'resetting.' Any info would be appreciated as I'd like to get this done next week before it gets really cold! Will snap some pics if that helps. Just tell me what shots would be most helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ls973800 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 I was able to pick up a 2013 Ford Service Manual on disc from a seller on eBay for a great price. Here is a copy of the manual instructions for initializing the roof motor. Hopefully this is what you are looking for. Roof Opening Panel Motor Initialization WARNING: Keep objects and body parts clear of the glass panel when carrying out the initialization procedure. During the initialization procedure, the glass panel closes with high force and cannot detect objects in its path. Failure to follow this instruction may result in serious personal injury. NOTE: New roof opening panel glass motor/shade motors must be initialized after installation. NOTE: A de-initialized glass or shade motor will stutter step open when operated from the roof opening panel control switch. Start the engine.Pull and hold the roof opening panel control switch until the sliding glass panel is in the fully CLOSED position. Release the control switch.Pull and hold the roof opening panel control switch until the sunshade panels are in the fully CLOSED position. Release the control switch.Pull and hold the roof opening panel control switch (for at least 21 seconds). For a new drive assembly, the sliding glass panel will move toward the front hard-stop, stall and then move backward a few millimeters and then forward. For an existing drive assembly, the sliding glass panel will move toward the front hard-stop and stall. The sunshade panels will move toward their front hard-stops, stall, move back a few millimeters, then forward. After the sunshade panels have finished moving backward and forward, release the roof opening panel control switch. NOTE: The roof opening panel control switch must be held during the entire initialization process or the sequence will be aborted and the roof will remain in a de-initialized state. Pull and hold the roof opening panel control switch. The sliding glass panel and sunshades will fully open together. Then, the sliding glass panel will close first and then the sunshades will return to the fully CLOSED position. When the sunshades have stopped moving, release the roof opening panel control switch. Initialization is now complete. Verify successful initialization by carrying out one-touch open, one-touch close, one-touch vent (glass) and one-touch open for the shades. If roof opening panel does not operate correctly, repeat Steps 2 through 5. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van G Posted November 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 (edited) Just got clarification from the dealer that the tracks just need cleaning and lubricating. Anyone have details on what to clean and lubricate with? Edited November 2, 2013 by Van G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van G Posted November 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van G Posted April 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Going to tackle this job on the weekend. Can I get suggestions on the proper grease to use? Vid referenced a wide temp range grease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 I remember it is white Lithium grease, but I don't remember where I got that info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van G Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I cleaned the rails today. They were dirty and packed with grease. Nice and tidy now but the roof still closes at an incredibly slow rate and almost stalls as it approaches the last 6". Assuming I need to replace the motor.... Anyone know where I can source the roof motor from? Privacy shade works normally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van G Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Okay, found MOTORCRAFT Part # MM1031. Is there an after market option that is either same quality but cheaper or better quality? Web is covered with people complaining about this roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netwalker Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 (edited) Make sure to clean and lube the rails behind the sun roof as well (you'll see them under the rubber flap), also don't miss the vertical guide rails on the far outside of the opening (look for the black plastic "s" channel that sucks the window down when fully closed). All in all there should be 5 rails per side you lube: 1-Bottom inner 2-Bottom outer 3-Vertical guide 4-Rear inner 5-Rear outer I'm guessing those rear rails are the most missed as well as the most in need to preventative maintenance as they are essentially exposed to the elements all the time. One good automatic car wash could scrub all the lube out in one pass. Edited July 6, 2014 by Netwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netwalker Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Oh! And be careful in there! There's a bunch of sharp edges inside those channels - if you stick your fingers inside, prepare to bleed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chops65 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 I have used Kleenflo Teflon spray gel grease with awesome results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netwalker Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 I have used Kleenflo Teflon spray gel grease with awesome results. I'll give it a try! Mine is starting to slow again, so it seems like this is going to be an annual maintenance project on this vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chops65 Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 The important thing is to use lube that doesn't eat the plastic parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 (edited) The important thing is to use lube that doesn't eat the plastic partsyup. Service manual states use rubbing alcohol to clean rails and silicone spray to lubricate. Edited May 29, 2015 by enigma-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakilhossain Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Just noticed the same thing on my few day old Edge!!! Has anyone tried to get the dealer to replace the motor? Had me dealerships service manager check another vehicle with a vista roof. That sounded much smoother compared to mine. Told me to come back in two days. This time he tells me oiling and greasing didn't help much. But apparently another edge on thier lot is worse than mine! Don't think i trust them after reading these forums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackEdition Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) Can I use WD-40 as a lubricant instead of grease? I just thought I would get up there and spray the edges and see how it works out but I don't want to mess anything up. Mine opens and closes up perfectly but I noticed that it is slower than what it used to be since I bought the car in 2013/5. My warranty ends in about 2 months so I want to test WD-40 and see what happens (if it works out, then all the issue is with lubricating and not the motor) but if it's the motor then I need to have that replaced before my warranty ends. Edited March 15, 2016 by BlackEdition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candurin Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) Last year CinnamonEdge did a really good video on the entire process and used dielectric grease as a lubricant. Edited March 15, 2016 by candurin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Can I use WD-40 as a lubricant instead of grease? I just thought I would get up there and spray the edges and see how it works out but I don't want to mess anything up. Mine opens and closes up perfectly but I noticed that it is slower than what it used to be since I bought the car in 2013/5. My warranty ends in about 2 months so I want to test WD-40 and see what happens (if it works out, then all the issue is with lubricating and not the motor) but if it's the motor then I need to have that replaced before my warranty ends. Temporarily, yes, but it won't stay on long term like grease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 I would think that synthetic grease would last the longest. The service manual recommends silicone spray. I use a super silicone, a mix of silicone and Teflon (think that's what it is, haven't used it in a while). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcali6301 Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 I was at the dealer and bought a bottle of Motorcraft multipurpose spray grease. This should work, correct? They did not have silicone spray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 Probably better. Grease is usually heavier and lasts longer than silicone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcali6301 Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 Great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 Don't know this stuff, you would want a lubricant that doesn't attract dirt and doesn't get gummy with water or cold. Anything "like" silicone would probably be ok, I would guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjbaker84 Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 I haven't had any issues on our 2013 edge limited with the vista roof in the 2 years we have owned it. My question is the rubber that is connected to the glass and the actually silver base. It looks like an accordion and minimizes noise I believe. It stays with the roof when moving or stationary. The left side is fine, the right side (passenger side) always seems to move and become disconnected. It snap back in place and isn't a huge deal, just annoying as whenever my wife uses it I have to reach up and push it back in place. any thoughts, help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwf78155 Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 I haven't had any issues on our 2013 edge limited with the vista roof in the 2 years we have owned it. My question is the rubber that is connected to the glass and the actually silver base. It looks like an accordion and minimizes noise I believe. It stays with the roof when moving or stationary. The left side is fine, the right side (passenger side) always seems to move and become disconnected. It snap back in place and isn't a huge deal, just annoying as whenever my wife uses it I have to reach up and push it back in place. any thoughts, help? Iput a drop of gorilla glue on the front side edge of them and have havent had the falling off problem since Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.